C1am Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, Datsuncog said: I also still have a Saab-shaped itch that I'd like to scratch with a 9-3 or 9-5 estate, but the Mechanic of Choice (and his brother) became highly agitated at this suggestion, as they claim spares are becoming harder and harder to track down Saab 93 is based on the GM Epsilon platform shared with the Vectra (and Cadillac BLS) so I wouldn't let that scare you off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaseracer Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 51 minutes ago, Datsuncog said: PERFORMANCE RUST YO. Guessing that's a Vignale shell, not West Brom - not that the UK bodies were that much better at resisting the tinworm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsuncog Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, chaseracer said: Guessing that's a Vignale shell, not West Brom - not that the UK bodies were that much better at resisting the tinworm... Yup, and I gather that was the problem - since all the panels were hand-beaten coachbuilder jobs, any off-the-shelf replacement panels wouldn't fit. I understand the owner left it sitting under a tarp for quite a few decades while trying to work out how to solve this conundrum, and... well, eventually the problem solved itself, so to speak. chaseracer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grogee Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 18 hours ago, Tadhg Tiogar said: Someone did tell me that some companies were actually cutting back on anti-corrosion measures to save money - Alfa, for one. Didn't think it was that widespread, but this looks quite the horror. Possibly true but I don't know what timescale we're talking. Our 2009 Alfa 159 is a good one, but it's trying really hard to be a rusty one. I've done wire wheel and paint job to the front subframe twice, rear suspension and more recently the rear inner arches (pics from before I got busy in there). The weird thing is there is a lot of the 159 which is unique and not found on any other Alfa, or any other Fiat. So they spent big developing bespoke bits for this car - then forgot to rustproof any of it. To be scrupulously fair it's more than 10 years old and that was probably their design brief - but most other cars are better. Datsuncog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Sorry to see the outcome of this Tim but I think it's fair to say that it's time to move it on. But thankfully, it sounds like it could raise a few more quid than expected for its replacement! Is there anything in particular you need from a car? I.e. size, ability to shift stuff, a tow bar etc? If not, then I suppose you have the luxury of choice. Would a Focus be a worthy replacement? I'm trying to think of something common, not too dull and not suffering from Toyota-tax. Nothing has to be forever - it can always be shifted if something better comes along. And maybe see if you can find one with an MOT expiring in the summer. Better chances of a drier trudge to the garage when necessary. Datsuncog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy18s Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 https://www.facebook.com/groups/1941618132731000/permalink/3724840484408747/ Datsuncog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsuncog Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share Posted October 31, 2021 We're now into disposal territory for the Forester's mortal remains... https://www.gumtree.com/p/subaru/2003-subaru-forester-20-xt-rare-manual-turbo-spares-or-repair-not-driving/1418479433 Not looking forward to the inevitable offers, but needs must... beko1987 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy18s Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Are you aware the cats alone will be worth a fair bit on their own if standard? Datsuncog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkyarddog Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Meanwhile in Russia...... catsinthewelder, GrumpiusMaximus, Datsuncog and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsuncog Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share Posted October 31, 2021 20 minutes ago, andy18s said: Are you aware the cats alone will be worth a fair bit on their own if standard? Yep, a quick look around indicated that the original cat's worth at least £300 alone as scrap, maybe more. I've factored that into the £800 asking price, cheers! Not too many idiots have responded as yet; most seem reasonably sensible and a fella's ringing me after 8 to discuss. Fingers crossed... Tickman and mk2_craig 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsuncog Posted November 1, 2021 Author Share Posted November 1, 2021 On 10/28/2021 at 2:20 AM, Jon said: Sorry to see the outcome of this Tim but I think it's fair to say that it's time to move it on. But thankfully, it sounds like it could raise a few more quid than expected for its replacement! We'll see... I've only pushed it onto Gumtree for now, and there's been a fair few enquiries but nothing further. The lad who wanted to call and chat last night never rang, so pretty much standard. I thought it'd mostly be local enquiries, but some of the messages have been talking about ferries and trailers so it seems there's wider interest, potentially. Might try a Car and Classic listing later - I'm really not keen on the idea of publishing a Facebook Marketplace ad, as I've never had a good experience there. Paying for an AutoTrader ad might also be an option, but... we'll see. Quote Is there anything in particular you need from a car? I.e. size, ability to shift stuff, a tow bar etc? If not, then I suppose you have the luxury of choice. Would a Focus be a worthy replacement? I'm trying to think of something common, not too dull and not suffering from Toyota-tax. Nothing has to be forever - it can always be shifted if something better comes along. And maybe see if you can find one with an MOT expiring in the summer. Better chances of a drier trudge to the garage when necessary. Yeah, an estate's pretty much an essential for us - I move a lot of stuff for various reasons, so the ability to swallow a settee, or four dozen breezeblocks, or a load of plants is a must. We tend to use the Yaris for short hops and local trips, so something a bit bigger and less frantic on the motorway's also a desirable thing. The little Toyota's not brilliantly geared, and 4,000 rpm at 70mph can get a bit wearing. The last saloon I had was the Alfa 156, and it was always a bit of a drag when trying to carry stuff - trying to stuff a small tree through the 'ski hatch' on one memorable occasion was an annoyance. A towbar would be preferable, although since I dismantled the rotten trailer and it's now only a rusty frame, it's probably a bit of a moot point. I wouldn't have said that AWD was a deal-breaker for me, but MrsDC definitely appreciated it on the Forester - since her commute involves traversing the Antrim Plateau each morning, you can maybe see why... it's a steep old road, and since I piled the Yaris into a verge one icy morning, having a bit more traction in winter months is a bonus. An early Volvo XC70 would be nice, but they seem to fall into two categories - abysmally and irrevocably fucked, or £££££ spendy. Funnily enough, a Focus was suggested the last time one of my cars expired catastrophically - and I don't know why, but I still can't gel with these. I mean, I really liked my end-of-the-line Escort, but I didn't much care for the look of the Focus when it was launched, inside or out, and I still don't, some 23 years on. It's quite baffling, as they're still plentiful and reliable and I've mellowed about many 2000s cars that I dismissed at the time, but... there's still some weird resistance. An appliance white Mk1 Focus Estate is listed locally for £850, but the wonkily-plated sills (with a quick puff of grey primer over the functional rather than aesthetically pleasing welds) and kiddy-sticky interior makes it seem even less appealing,.. There's not much around the £1k mark - funny you mention Toyota Tax, there's a couple of Mk2 Avensis diesel estates listed for around £1200, but they're being sold way up the country - and by the time a car is too far gone for a farm hack, I'm not sure if it's dipped below even my low standards... Shite Ron and Jon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tadhg Tiogar Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 20 hours ago, Datsuncog said: We're now into disposal territory for the Forester's mortal remains... https://www.gumtree.com/p/subaru/2003-subaru-forester-20-xt-rare-manual-turbo-spares-or-repair-not-driving/1418479433 Not looking forward to the inevitable offers, but needs must... @barefoot may be available to give it the Last Rites before you sack the thing off. Datsuncog, barefoot and BorniteIdentity 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsuncog Posted November 1, 2021 Author Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Tadhg Tiogar said: @barefoot may be available to give it the Last Rites before you sack the thing off. He may have to do so via Zoom... but appropriate enough, yes! Popped a near-mirror of the Gumtree ad up on Car & Classic. 2003 subaru forester 2.0 xt - rare manual turbo - non runner For Sale | Car and Classic Took about two hours to pass scrutiny and get published, during which time it lost most (but not all) of its capital letters. Weird. We'll see what transpires, sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairnet Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Trip to ballyclare noy chaseracer and The_Equalizer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy18s Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 If it didn't cost the same price in shipping over,there's a car waiting for a transplant just outside... Datsuncog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Equalizer Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Datsuncog said: A towbar would be preferable, although since I dismantled the rotten trailer and it's now only a rusty frame, it's probably a bit of a moot point. Wouldn't tow bar/trailer open up the choice of vehicle somewhat? The number of occasions when you have to use the extra capacity must be relatively few. I must actually need my Land Rover probably half a dozen times a year. Speaking of which, you're always welcome to give me a shout if you get stuck ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Equalizer Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, hairnet said: Trip to ballyclare noy That's dangerous talk. Last time @Datsuncog was there he got pulled into the office and was told that him taking photos of the shite was making people nervous. chaseracer, Tadhg Tiogar and Datsuncog 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierraman Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 As I say ‘Fuckin Scrap it’. Philosophically speaking at least you’ve found out it’s rotten on a ramp as opposed to the seatbelts pulling out of the mounts in an accident. Datsuncog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 In a bout of stove-topped cooking appliance to hearth-based heat source....how about another silver Subaru?! https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110238814161 Datsuncog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minimad5 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 If you don't strictly need 4wd, then I'm still thinking of flogging the 850 estate Datsuncog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsuncog Posted November 2, 2021 Author Share Posted November 2, 2021 18 hours ago, The_Equalizer said: That's dangerous talk. Last time @Datsuncog was there he got pulled into the office and was told that him taking photos of the shite was making people nervous. It's true. Seemingly they had no bother with me snapping away while wearing a lightly soiled army surplus jacket (alongside plenty of other punters with their phones out, including a Polish lad who seemed to habitually livestream the entire auction on Facebook), but as soon as I turned up in a Crombie, everyone started getting antsy... VERDICT: Ballyclare has a problem with quality tailoring. 17 hours ago, sierraman said: As I say ‘Fuckin Scrap it’. Philosophically speaking at least you’ve found out it’s rotten on a ramp as opposed to the seatbelts pulling out of the mounts in an accident. Well indeed.... I'm pretty relieved the front end went at walking pace, and not in the outer lane of the M2. Could be kinda messy... Also, flicking through the old MOT certificates, surprised that the car seemingly has had no previous corrosion advisories - this real rot seems to have taken hold in the past two years. Dunno whether using it heavily throughout last December and then parking it up for an extended period - cos of the battery fault - allowed the salt to really get a hold and just chew through the inner arches and suspension. Or whether it's just reached its best before date. There did seem to be many more of them around just a few years ago. 14 hours ago, Jon said: In a bout of stove-topped cooking appliance to hearth-based heat source....how about another silver Subaru?! https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110238814161 Well now... another Subaru has been on my mind, it's true. That looks pretty decent for the money! (Though where is this one? Can't seem to find a location anywhere in the ad, though there must be some info somewhere.) 13 hours ago, Minimad5 said: If you don't strictly need 4wd, then I'm still thinking of flogging the 850 estate No, the 4x4 capability is nice, but not exactly essential... and I do miss a bit off Volvo in my life... but there have been some further developments going on behind the scenes too, so watch this space, kids! 18 hours ago, The_Equalizer said: Wouldn't tow bar/trailer open up the choice of vehicle somewhat? The number of occasions when you have to use the extra capacity must be relatively few. I'd be open to the idea, but I don't think I'd ever entertain a saloon again. What sort of big hatches are there out there that aren't a Vectra C, or a Mondeo DMF disaster-in-waiting? Maybe I'm just abnormally needy for space, but it feels like barely a week went by without dropping the rear seats in the Forester to accommodate an armchair, a load of paving slabs or a lawnmower. The Lagunas were quite capacious as hatches go, though. Managed to fit an entire 6x4 greenhouse (partially dismantled) into the silver one. A towbar's something I'd prefer on any car, just to boost flexibility, but I haven't had a daily driver fitted with one since my Volvo 240, now I think on it... which probably explains why my trailer disintegrated from lack of use... Shite Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split_Pin Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Crikey Tim, slim pickings in a 50 mile radius around your area. All I found was this: If you type the same radius around my postcode, under £1500, it takes at least 20 minutes to even just scroll through. Lots of dross sure, but good stuff does come up. If you want to cast your net wider to there I'd be happy to take a look/drive at anything that interests you. Datsuncog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsuncog Posted November 2, 2021 Author Share Posted November 2, 2021 So, plenty of 'Is this still available?' messages coming through via the ads, but nothing more heard from the senders after I've replied... But I did get a call from the Mechanic of Choice this morning, sounding a bit worried - as someone had sent him a link to my ad, asking if he could weld up the arches. Naturally, he recognised the car. Apparently, he absolutely can't have the car sold from his premises, as this opens up a whole world of legal pain for him even though it's clearly listed as a private sale, a non-runner, and undriveable. He can't have anyone view the car there, and he can't have anyone collect the car from there, otherwise he's personally liable if they start making accusations that they've been sold an unroadworthy car. Fair enough; my bad. I hadn't considered this end of things. So I've pulled the ads. So given that it is undriveable; apparently now unsaleable without getting it moved elsewhere; MrsDC doesn't deserve another mouldering heap down the side of the house; and the whole thing's rapidly becoming another nugget of stress I absolutely don't need to be dealing with right now - I think I'm out of options... I've accepted the CTB offer. A sad end, but there we go. somewhatfoolish, abelw44, RoadworkUK and 5 others 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spottedlaurel Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 I know how you feel. I had to do similar with the Camry estate recently - doubtless there could have been a way of keeping it going, or getting more money out of breaking it, but it was better to let it go quickly to someone else who could do whatever with it (in my case time wasn't on my side). At least we're in a situation where it's possible to get a decent bit for a scrap car, although the flipside of that is more needs to be paid for those still on the road...... mk2_craig and Datsuncog 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenmil Socket Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Datsuncog said: So, plenty of 'Is this still available?' messages coming through via the ads, but nothing more heard from the senders after I've replied... But I did get a call from the Mechanic of Choice this morning, sounding a bit worried - as someone had sent him a link to my ad, asking if he could weld up the arches. Naturally, he recognised the car. Apparently, he absolutely can't have the car sold from his premises, as this opens up a whole world of legal pain for him even though it's clearly listed as a private sale, a non-runner, and undriveable. He can't have anyone view the car there, and he can't have anyone collect the car from there, otherwise he's personally liable if they start making accusations that they've been sold an unroadworthy car. Fair enough; my bad. I hadn't considered this end of things. So I've pulled the ads. So given that it is undriveable; apparently now unsaleable without getting it moved elsewhere; MrsDC doesn't deserve another mouldering heap down the side of the house; and the whole thing's rapidly becoming another nugget of stress I absolutely don't need to be dealing with right now - I think I'm out of options... I've accepted the CTB offer. A sad end, but there we go. That's a shame 😔 Datsuncog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Shame but understandable I suppose. I've scrapped cars that I wish I didn't have to, but only one parking space, which is legally on the road too doesn't help. Get it fucked off and find a wbod! Guess no one could drive a UK car onto a ferry and toy drive it off and just say you won it for 6.99 in a roffle? Datsuncog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somewhatfoolish Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Entirely understandable; I was in exactly the same position 6 years ago, an MoTless Forester Turbot with terminally crispy trailing edges, although I didn't have the problem of disintegrated swinging arms. After fielding a million zombie "is this still available" messages I sold it to the first person who turned up even though they only bid half what I wanted, just to get rid. Datsuncog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dome Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 It says the car has to be complete, it doesn't say it has to have a cat on it. Get it hiked up and grind it off and you could maybe double your money. If the scrapman says anything then tell him its one of the reasons your scrapping it as someone* stole* it LightBulbFun and Datsuncog 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsuncog Posted November 2, 2021 Author Share Posted November 2, 2021 14 minutes ago, Tenmil Socket said: That's a shame 😔 It is indeed... especially since whenever I logged back on to Gumtree to delete the ad, there were two more promising messages waiting - one of which was a phone number inviting a chat, another stated 'best price - can come now'. But I don't want to piss off the garage, as I'll no doubt be seeking their services in the future, and if it's going to cause them aggro should I advertise my shitty cars from their business premises, then it ain't worth it for the sake of an extra two hundred quid or so. I think the Mechanic of Choice felt a bit bad, as when I asked what I owe him for all the emergency welding and the time spent on the ramp and the hire of the long-arm forklift and all the rest of the fuckabout (my estimate: £150), he said I don't owe them anything... so that further weights the man-maths equation. I'll be dropping them down a few cases of beer, in that case. They're good lads, I don't want to dump on them. Waiting on the confirmation call from CarTakeBack; I'll need to go down and remove the dashcam and my other personal effects before it gets lifted. 16 minutes ago, beko1987 said: Shame but understandable I suppose. I've scrapped cars that I wish I didn't have to, but only one parking space, which is legally on the road too doesn't help. Get it fucked off and find a wbod! Guess no one could drive a UK car onto a ferry and toy drive it off and just say you won it for 6.99 in a roffle? Aye; we're fortunate in that we've space for three cars in the drive, four at a push, but I know it pains MrsDC to have to squeeze around my assorted old nails on death row just to get the bins out, so I don't want to go down that route again... In most of our 11 years in this house, there's been something a-mouldering down the side of the house. But yes, plans are coming together for a WBOD... so mebbe check back here on Saturday and we'll see what's what... 17 minutes ago, somewhatfoolish said: Entirely understandable; I was in exactly the same position 6 years ago, an MoTless Forester Turbot with terminally crispy trailing edges, although I didn't have the problem of disintegrated swinging arms. After fielding a million zombie "is this still available" messages I sold it to the first person who turned up even though they only bid half what I wanted, just to get rid. Yup, it seems that Subarus and crispiness go hand in hand... looking back at the pics I took in April 2018, I can see that the inner arches already have a slightly different-looking area around the join, so I think the rust was already taking hold at the point of purchase... even if I'd slathered it in Waxoyl back then, I think the outcome would have been largely the same. As Neil Young has it, rust never sleeps... 8 minutes ago, dome said: It says the car has to be complete, it doesn't say it has to have a cat on it. Get it hiked up and grind it off and you could maybe double your money. If the scrapman says anything then tell him its one of the reasons your scrapping it as someone* stole* it Yep, it seems the only criteria needed by CBT is 'having four wheels' - so that's maybe an option. Though they're meant to phone me to ask for more details before confirming the offer price, so I dunno if they'd slash their offer once they find out the cat's been removed. If not though, I might let the garage know - realistically I don't have the opportunity or the tools to get under it with a cordless grinder, but if they could do so, then it might just buy me back some Brownie points against any future work to my assortment of hopeless wrecks... Matty and mercedade 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dome Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Assuming it's the OEM cat if you get the serial number off it then I can give you an idea of the value-a friend breaks cars and has a good source to sell these to. You'll also no doubt have loads of Facebook ads locally for folk wanting scrap cats, don't jump at the first offer! Datsuncog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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