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3 hours ago, Schaefft said:

Painting interior pieces gives me the fears. The paint will wear down eventually so any attempt at rectifying this with original parts is approved in my book.

My thoughts exactly. For instance I dislike rubber coated 90s VAG switches and weird non oem colour clashes (i can spot a diy job mile off) and this is it x1000

Ive almost got a compulsion to scratch the painted surfaces with my nail, cant help it 😂

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19 minutes ago, Schaefft said:

Painting interior pieces gives me the fears. The paint will wear down eventually so any attempt at rectifying this with original parts is approved in my book.

This is the original colour scheme for the interior- “alpaca grey cloth”

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35 minutes ago, HMC said:

The shad shed has had some later replacement plates…

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Theyre in a blocky modern font and follow the love for black background plates. IIRC you can put these on anything up to a ‘79 now. To a number plate obsessive (raises hand awkwardly) this feels, and looks, all wrong.

Anyway- would a 71/72 k been on the more modern reflectives or the old plates? Maybe, maybe not. I wanted a bit of 70s realism going on so ideally wanted a reflective set. 

Trouble is, the 7s and 8s are all wrong on these. I want an 8 to have an hourglass shape. Yes im aware this sounds pervy 😂 and a brand new number plate has no patina.

So i got hold of an old number plate that had the key older characters i was after, and added new old stock one of those that were missing.

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I then aged the too-new looking NOS ones with some wet and dry, took it all to bits, and drilled and reassembled.

So the shad shed has a bit of a 70s sweeney / long good friday era look to it….

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Now that is truly admirable numberplate obsessiveness.

They look ace.

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On 08/02/2024 at 17:27, HMC said:

Well the DVLA have responded….

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Predictably, the “reasonable cause” criteria threshold wasnt met. I routinely used to do these on all old cars and used to state simply that it was to research the vehicle history. GDPR has shut that avenue, unless there is a legal need.

Nevertheless,  hopefully the link to the Grandson will provide a lead, and i do have a couple of recent reciepts that i could use for an address to write to.

Meanwhile, lets fire up all 7 (early range rover dizzy cap and leads on the way- they share the same 35D-8 unit)  and chug to the local…..

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I tried to trace the owner of a car and it met two of those criteria , abandoned ( tyres completely flat, generally turning green inside and out), and parked on private land (car park of my flat), but they refused to give me any details. I was considering getting it pulled out and staging some sort of crash but moved out so didn’t care anymore.

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  • HMC changed the title to HMC- Shad Shed bitza number plates

Last time I did the dvla info request was around a decade ago with my old mk2 Golf Gti. It took ages for them to get back to me - I think I was something like the 18th owner. I seem to remember they sent me a letter partway through the process suggesting that they were struggling to find some of the old V5s from the old filing cabinets hidden in the basement or something. It was great when they eventually did send the paperwork through though - it gave a real insight into where the car had been for the previous two decades. It's a real shame GDPR has put pay to the process now.

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Ive not done the rear plate yet (so is currently looking like the 280sl of Helen Mirren’s character in The long Good Friday  by having old style rear and new style front plates.)

Incidentally the main protagonist (a young Bob hoskins ) @richardmorris has an early 70s ‘shad also. (here with a henchman/ chauffeur)

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The one in the film (shot around 1979 in and around east london) has had its age hidden with reflective plates on a (presumably fake) private plate. Tarted up with whitewalls, it gets blown up outside a church early on in the film

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Anyway, ive already got the rear plate (which handily had the same digits, in the same order, as the shad) but is even more patinated…

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I’m confident a little tart up as i go will preserve the patina but bring it down a notch or two (from scrapyard relic to survivor car) New they want £60 per plate + postage and this way cheaper, and suits the car better anyway.

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15 minutes ago, adw1977 said:

So nice to see a car go back onto period reflective plates.

I'm sure it will soon become less obvious with weathering, but as the outline of some of the old digits is still visible, I wonder if it will attract the attention of plod? 

Good point, i also need to fill in the holes as well, and maybe think of a way of darkening down ‘brighter’ bits

Edit :Ive got an idea to tint the brighter areas down with something.

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23 minutes ago, HMC said:

Ive not done the rear plate yet (so is currently looking like the 280sl of Helen Mirren’s character in The long Good Friday  by having old style rear and new style front plates.)

Incidentally the main protagonist (a young Bob hoskins ) @richardmorris has an early 70s ‘shad also. (here with a henchman/ chauffeur)

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IMG_5299.thumb.png.3e04ea325e0fe1d8b847c3dd03428122.pngA young Helen Mirren

The one in the film (shot around 1979 in and around east london) has had its age hidden with reflective plates on a (presumably fake) private plate. Tarted up with whitewalls, it gets blown up outside a church early on in the film

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Anyway, ive already got the rear plate (which handily had the same digits, in the same order, as the shad) but is even more patinated…

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I’m confident a little tart up as i go will preserve the patina but bring it down a notch or two (from scrapyard relic to survivor car) New they want £60 per plate + postage and this way cheaper, and suits the car better anyway.

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Yes, the long Good Friday and Mona Lisa are two of my favourites. Plenty of car spotting.

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On 03/02/2024 at 22:18, Schaefft said:

Zebrano was such a popular choice for wood trim in 80s Mercedes for some reason, I really dont know why. It reminds me of cheap wood veneer on 70s furniture. Burl walnut on the other hand...

For years I didn’t know Zebrano  was an actual tree, I just assumed it was Mercedes  term for fake wood, like MB-Tex was for fake leather.

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5 hours ago, lesapandre said:

Jaguar used the word Ambla for their vinyl trim option. Was the ICI trade name for this material. Sounds better than vinyl trim.

Vauxhall used Ambla on the HA Viva, but only on the top SL trim level.  More modest Vivas had to make do with standard vinyl.

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21 hours ago, HMC said:

The shad shed has had some later replacement plates…

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Theyre in a blocky modern font and follow the love for black background plates. IIRC you can put these on anything up to a ‘79 now. To a number plate obsessive (raises hand awkwardly) this feels, and looks, all wrong.

Anyway- would a 71/72 k been on the more modern reflectives or the old plates? Maybe, maybe not. I wanted a bit of 70s modernist realism going on so ideally wanted a reflective set. 

Trouble is, the 7s and 8s are all wrong on these. I want an 8 to have an hourglass shape. Yes im aware this sounds pervy 😂 and a brand new number plate has no patina.

So i got hold of an old number plate that had the key older characters i was after, and added new old stock one of those that were missing.

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I then aged the too-new looking NOS ones with some wet and dry, took it all to bits, and drilled and reassembled.

So the shad shed has a bit of a 70s sweeney / long good friday era look to it….

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Perfect.

These absolutely should NEVER be on black plates after the 1967 model year.  That's when the reflectives came in and immediately, having black plates on your new car marked you out as a raving cheapskate, something you really didn't want to project if you'd just bought a lovely new Shad!

My dad bought his last new car in 1967: HWM 457F, a Cortina mk2 1500 Super in Black Cherry.  It came on black plates, but it probably wasn't even Christmas before he changed them for the new style.  Now here was a man who HAD taken the cheapskate option, by buying the outgoing pre-crossflow engine when the new 1600 was coming in!

@HMC FWIW I totally approve.  In case you hadn't guessed.

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Just spotted this on the antisocials and thought of this thread. Working class Roller! Yours would look good on a set of inappropriate 70s slots, too 😉

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The backstory:

"My Dad swore by the Rolls Royce Silver cloud, we had them in the family from the late 60’s right up to recently. They were as happy cruising the continent at 100mph as they were being his workhorses ! We had just dragged this 1956 Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz back from Cadiz Spain , early 1970’s"

Edit: Just realised the fella in question is none other than John Dodd, previous long-term owner of The Beast. Proper DGAF attitude- good man. 

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25 minutes ago, Dick Longbridge said:

Just spotted this on the antisocials and thought of this thread. Working class Roller! Yours would look good on a set of inappropriate 70s slots, too 😉

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The backstory:

"My Dad swore by the Rolls Royce Silver cloud, we had them in the family from the late 60’s right up to recently. They were as happy cruising the continent at 100mph as they were being his workhorses ! We had just dragged this 1956 Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz back from Cadiz Spain , early 1970’s"

Edit: Just realised the fella in question is none other than John Dodd, previous long-term owner of The Beast. Proper DGAF attitude- good man. 

Thats brilliant!

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12 hours ago, eddyramrod said:

Yeah I saw that last night.  Proper stuff!  Except it's a 57....

Give his daughter a bit of credit, Eddie - she's one year out and she can't check with her old man as he's passed on 😆.  To be fair, I'm impressed that she continues to share fascinating snippets of her father's automotive journey; the guy was both genius and loon in equal measure. 

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17 hours ago, HMC said:

 The long Good Friday  by having old style rear and new style front plates.

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I watched that film fairly recently. Bob Hoskins is great in it, especially at the end. 

Unfortunately there is some wild period racism which dates it a bit. But good for old chod and bonus Piers Brosnan cameo. 

The Shad looks ace and its number plates are so good they are in danger of turning me into a AS number plate bore. 

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the number plate stuff is awesome, exactly the sort of shite I live for :) looks so much better on period plates!

 

I would leave the white splotches alone, I know certainly REV's period and original front number plate is also fairly splotchy like that, so it does not look out of place in my eyes at least (I would post a picture but someone would shout at me cuz Invacar LOL)

and I dont think the plod would mind also, it still clearly says the correct registration mark :) 

 

 

5 hours ago, Dick Longbridge said:

Just spotted this on the antisocials and thought of this thread. Working class Roller! Yours would look good on a set of inappropriate 70s slots, too 😉

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The backstory:

"My Dad swore by the Rolls Royce Silver cloud, we had them in the family from the late 60’s right up to recently. They were as happy cruising the continent at 100mph as they were being his workhorses ! We had just dragged this 1956 Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz back from Cadiz Spain , early 1970’s"

Edit: Just realised the fella in question is none other than John Dodd, previous long-term owner of The Beast. Proper DGAF attitude- good man. 

I fucking love that shot, especially the whole incongruity of it, especially with the slot mags and caked in grime, it looks quite mean if anything :) 

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13 hours ago, Dick Longbridge said:

Just spotted this on the antisocials and thought of this thread. Working class Roller! Yours would look good on a set of inappropriate 70s slots, too 😉

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The backstory:

"My Dad swore by the Rolls Royce Silver cloud, we had them in the family from the late 60’s right up to recently. They were as happy cruising the continent at 100mph as they were being his workhorses ! We had just dragged this 1956 Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz back from Cadiz Spain , early 1970’s"

Edit: Just realised the fella in question is none other than John Dodd, previous long-term owner of The Beast. Proper DGAF attitude- good man. 

That's the absolute sweet spot for Rolls. A Silver Cloud III - traditional body on chassis but with the uprated 6.2 V8  and GM auto box. Identified by the dual headlamps.

Super classy super rare.

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