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  • HMC changed the title to HMC motors- Primera P11 minicab arrival

They’re quite thin on the ground now, that generation of Primera. Do they rust as badly as the Almera? Look forward to seeing the daylight pics.

Childhood memory of these was a daft old neighbour having one (R126 AVX) driving home  drunk from the pub (as he did all the time) and clipping the front bumper of my granddads Fiesta Ghia (P739 LEV) as he was reversing onto his drive. Grandad, taking no shit, saw it, went out and confronted him, smelt the booze and called the cops, who then came and breathalysed him. 3 times the DD limit IIRC. He obviously received a nice long ban for that.

Not sure what happened to the Primera but it was in surprisingly good condition. The silly old duffer had some stickers on the middle of his garage door (presumably) so he could line the car up in his car port as he was reversing in while pissed.

Someone else in the village had a Cabstar which was R127 AVX.

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8 hours ago, wuvvum said:

Is that rear wiper factory?  I don't recall ever seeing P11 saloons thus equipped.

Yup. Entirely  factory. So many JDM saloons had rear wipers in the 1990s judging by what I saw in NZ. Very odd that the Primera brought such technology to Europe, where it was more like a five-minute fad (Mondeo Mk1, Dedra, some Imprezas).

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7 hours ago, jonathan_dyane said:

Gorgeous! Junkman used to witter on about 1986 and all that but I maintain the P11 Primera was the pinnacle of vehicular development.

I think the peak of functional, reliable car design is the late 80s-mid 90s era. 

The P10 Primera is a better car in engineering terms, eg the P11 has a torsion beam rear axle instead of the P10's multi link set up. I also think the P10 is better built. 

But good luck finding a nice P10 now, this thing looks great. Nice find and buy. 

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It was at a main dealer part ex disposal place in Essex that looked like the last stop before the  bridge for most. Muddy puddles, rusty storage containers and miscellaneous plant machinery in the background etc.

The sellers were a friendly unpretentious bunch, who seemed convinced I was an export mogul as apparently that’s the destination for lots of end of life petrol primeras of this generation. Where was it bound? Ummm west Devon. Does that count as export?!

It seems to have been bought by a person from the Far East who owned it from 2002 untiL now, who seemed to live around Harrow/ Tottenham. It’s spent it’s life street parked, it’s a bit battered n some places but I haven’t found any rust yet. It also came with  some cassettes to listen to on what I think is the original radio. 

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1 hour ago, HMC said:

It was at a main dealer part ex disposal place in Essex that looked like the last stop before the  bridge for most. Muddy puddles, rusty storage containers and miscellaneous plant machinery in the background etc.

The sellers were a friendly unpretentious bunch, who seemed convinced I was an export mogul as apparently that’s the destination for lots of end of life petrol primeras of this generation. Where was it bound? Ummm west Devon. Does that count as export?!

It seems to have been bought by a person from the Far East who owned it from 2002 untiL now, who seemed to live around Harrow/ Tottenham. It’s spent it’s life street parked, it’s a bit battered n some places but I haven’t found any rust yet. It also came with  some cassettes to listen to on what I think is the original radio. 

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To be fair, that doesn't look bad at all.

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42 minutes ago, SiC said:

Has Aircon. Posh. 


These things were great. Nice to see another on here. 😎

I had a 4dr P11 1600 Si as my first car. Converted it to SR20DE, GT rep, coilovers, GT-R brakes, wire tuck, thousands on mods etc as was the way then.

The A/C was useful in traffic jams. Cos just pulling itself along in 1st gear was 7mph, but A/C on mate it roll at the same speed as creeping automatics. So 12mph iirc.

I weighed that car in, after absolutely minting it by removing all underseal etc @60K miles and keeping I garaged for years before that.

There won’t be many cleaner than that, which were scrapped. R.I.P. S732 DBR/ L14 MN(Issan)P(rimera).

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5 hours ago, dollywobbler said:

Yup. Entirely  factory. So many JDM saloons had rear wipers in the 1990s judging by what I saw in NZ. Very odd that the Primera brought such technology to Europe, where it was more like a five-minute fad (Mondeo Mk1, Dedra, some Imprezas).

Didn't some early 406s have them as well?  And the Tempra obvs.

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I've had a few P11s over the years - a dreadful turbo diesel ex-taxi which wouldn't go into 5th gear, a rather nice GT and a facelift 2-litre with the CVT gearbox.  The latter two were very pleasant to drive (the diesel was totally gutless), and the GT was actually quite good fun to thrash, although none of them stuck to the road like the P10.

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8 hours ago, dollywobbler said:

Yup. Entirely  factory. So many JDM saloons had rear wipers in the 1990s judging by what I saw in NZ. Very odd that the Primera brought such technology to Europe, where it was more like a five-minute fad (Mondeo Mk1, Dedra, some Imprezas).

@HMC’s P11 has one because it’s an SLX. IIRC that and the non GT SE  were the only models where you could have a rear wiper - in the U.K.  Something like that, anyway.

I owned a JDM import 4dr saloon with an SR18DE automatic. That had a rear wiper.

I bought it for the folding door mirrors and black dash/door cards. The whole car was very different. Handbrake offset, digital climate control.It’s the only one I have ever seen that had plastic headlights. 

When I broke it for spares, I could barely get rid of the front bumper, bootlid etc. This is when the P11 was deeply uncool to most and the JDM thing wasn’t anywhere near as strong.

This thread takes me back. I was the first one to fit the P11-144 boot lid and tail lights to a P11e. Those ‘in the know’ said it wouldn’t fit. It was a facelift. Of course it would fit.

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