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Zel's Motoring Adventures...Lada, Citroen, Mercedes & AC Model 70 - 22/05 - Running Errands via Invacar

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4 hours ago, Zelandeth said:

It varies depending on the engine and gearbox fitted.  The vast, vast majority of them we used to see through the garage were 1.9TDs (XUD9TE engine), which is cable operated.  The clip holding the cable to the pedal there is the invention of the devil himself.

Does amuse me that while it's hydraulic it uses normal DOT3/4 fluid rather than LHM.  Not really sure of the logic behind that.

Presumably whoever makes the clutch hydraulics couldn't ok the rubber components for LHM. "We can do it, but it'll cost this much." PSA accountants say no.

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The previous owner of your activa had to manufacture a bleed screw on my activa when he did my clutch. It may be worth having a word with him, even though he does not drive or repair cars any more. It is documented on the thread he created on the FCF about the clutch change if I remember correctly.

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The Activa has definitely taken the award for the car with the most absurdly stupidly placed clutch fluid reservoir I have ever seen.
My guess yesterday was wrong.  That rubber cap covers a button that's something to do with the alarm.  The actual reservoir is way more buried.

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Yeah, that's going to be fun to check.  I decided that was a task for later in the week as I lacked the patience for it today!

Instead I concentrated on finishing off the work I started on the Invacar yesterday.

There's going to be some more filler needed, but it's definitely moving in the right direction.  Annoyingly I ran out of paint before I finished the nearside wing.

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Interior was covered in filler dust and finely atomised rust, despite my best efforts to clean it out the heater is still shedding rust, so it was given a quick clean.

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Also while I had the paints out I gave the engine cowl a quick spray over.  The paint was flaking off that and it was bugging me.

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This brought us up to being as ready to greet TWC and Dollywobbler when they arrived.

Which of course brings us to our little meetup.  Nothing much that you've not probably already seen on his thread, but these are a few of the photos I took myself while we had the pair out for a juice sunny afternoon drive.

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It was really interesting to have a brief shot of TWC to compare to TPA.  The immediately apparent differences between the two I noted were:

[] The 10" wheels and wider tyres make her more stable in a straight line.

[] TPA has a far louder exhaust.

[] TPA generally feels more eager, good 10mph difference passing by the bus stop just before you turn into our neighborhood.  Hard to tell whether this is a gearing difference or power output being a bit lower.

[] TWC seems to have a quieter engine, the noise from that feels much more distant than in TPA.

[] TWC has shown me how horrendous my brakes are in terms of free travel.  Actual stopping power is much the same though.

[] I really need to find an indicator stalk without a cranked arm as that's really awkward.

[] TPA has a stuffed throttle, though given the currently bodged cable in there it's not really surprising.

Really nice seeing the photos of them on the move in convoy over on DW's thread.  Hopefully not the last time we'll see them out and about together.

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very very awesome stuff!

I find the 10 vs 12 inch wheels thing interesting, as I was told at one point the 10 inch and 12 inch tyres have the same outside diameter, i guess thats not the case (I always thought the 12 inch tyres looked bigger myself)

im happy to see you both got something out of driving each others Model 70's :) 

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2 minutes ago, Angrydicky said:

Bit late now but we've got rebuild kits for those master cylinders at work (Past Parts) for about a tenner. We stock new cylinders too.

always good to know :) (I know you sorted DW back in late 2017 early 2018 or so) good to know you still do them :)

out of curiosity do you know what other vehicles is the master cylinders shared with?

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Off the top of my head no, but its only a 5/8" Girling CV (centre valve) unit, used on loads of British cars at the time. They did them in integral (metal) reservoir and remote (plastic) reservoir versions and also in several different bore sizes. 5/8" was the smallest but they also did that style in 3/4" (very common) 7/8" and a cast iron version of 1" bore.

Very good little cylinder. Very basic and as long as bore and seals are ok they never really give any trouble.

My work can also resleeve in stainless steel, and rebuild an original invacar one for about the price of a new pattern.

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1 minute ago, Angrydicky said:

Off the top of my head no, but its only a 5/8" Girling CV (centre valve) unit, used on loads of British cars at the time. They did them in integral (metal) reservoir and remote (plastic) reservoir versions and also in several different bore sizes. 5/8" was the smallest but they also did that style in 3/4" (very common) 7/8" and a cast iron version of 1" bore.

Very good little cylinder. Very basic and as long as bore and seals are ok they never really give any trouble.

My work can also resleeve in stainless steel, and rebuild an original invacar one for about the price of a new pattern.

Awesome Thanks!, the guy with MPH759P and the guy with VES108S is having some issues there I think, so ill point them in the direction of your website/company :)

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6 hours ago, Angrydicky said:

Bit late now but we've got rebuild kits for those master cylinders at work (Past Parts) for about a tenner. We stock new cylinders too.

That's probably where I'll be getting stuff from shortly.  I want to pull the cylinder on there to bits and see what's up with it.  I'm reluctant to immobilise the car though so wanted to have a spare I could chuck on in the meantime.  The replacement I've ordered was essentially free due to gift credit that's been sitting in my Amazon account for a couple of years.  Shows you how often I use them.

Once I've ascertained whether the cylinder I have is repairable I'll look to get the necessary bits in.  Just wanted to be able to prove the rest of the system with a known working MC rather than one that's been sitting in a scruffy box for 40 years.

 

7 hours ago, LightBulbFun said:

very very awesome stuff!

I find the 10 vs 12 inch wheels thing interesting, as I was told at one point the 10 inch and 12 inch tyres have the same outside diameter, i guess thats not the case (I always thought the 12 inch tyres looked bigger myself)

im happy to see you both got something out of driving each others Model 70's :) 

I think having looked at them side by side the 12" wheels do have a slightly larger diameter, albeit not massively different.  The biggest effect on driving though is due to the tyre profile.  The 10" tyres are significantly wider than the 12" ones which probably helps the straight line stability.  The larger sidewall area of the tyre should help with ride compliance too as it should be more flexible.  Didn't really notice a massive difference there, but it was a very short drive.

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Had a pretty full day today so didn't have much time for cars.

One thing which I'm rather paranoid about both in the home and cars is fire.  There were a couple of things around the fridge which were bothering me.  Simple really in that it chucks out a LOT of heat, especially from the area right by the burner when on gas and around the rectifier/water separator.

The proximity of that to a plywood wall covering polystyrene insulation bothered me.  When I first got it the wiring was melted into the water separator too.  In addition to fire hazards the fact that the water lines to the kitchen run within a couple of inches of the burner and that makes me uncomfortable.

Some of that is unavoidable to some extent, but I could do something to improve matters a bit with a bit of insulation and rerouting of wiring.  I want to do this now as before too long the compartment it lives in will be getting closed in, so there will no longer be a whopping great hole in the wall of the living area.  Need to fit a vent in the floor so we can get some decent airflow through the heat exchanger too.

First up was some foil attached to the wall that's nearest to the hottest areas.

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Not pretty but it doesn't have to be... it'll be behind the fridge.

Also wrapped the wiring which has to run up behind it and tethered them to keep them from actually sitting on the water separator.

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Will get the gas hooked back up, do a leak and CO escape check then get the thing boxed back in as it should be.  Once that's done I can button up the gas locker...once that's done I can do the cupboards.  Just need to do stuff in a very specific order for the sake of access.

 

 

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Wound up digging around in the locker under the sofa in the van so took the opportunity to install the battery gauge which has been rattling around for months.

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The reason I really wanted this installed was because the one in the main control panel appears to have issues.  This photo was taken about twenty seconds after the one above.

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Hopefully at some point I'll be able to get that sorted.  It's a ways down the priority list though.

I had it in my head that there was a local classic car get together here this afternoon...however when I got there it became apparent that I'm utterly useless and had the wrong day - that's actually tomorrow.

So I suddenly found myself with a couple of hours to kill.  Figured it was time to throw some more filler at TPA.

Still a bunch more sanding to do, but we're getting somewhere.

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Nearside quarter looking almost smooth.

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The huge gouges on the nose have been smoothed out.  I felt this was quite important given how prominent the area is.

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Bonnet hinge area is almost resembling flat again and I've built up the corner of the bonnet which I'd clearly missed on the first pass.

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Finally got the hole in the roof filled.  Meant the duct tape there can finally go.

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This corner is actually starting to look passable.  This is as far as I got with the sander.  Even with the dust extraction set up the process still makes a godawful mess!

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The biggest pits around the rear of the car have been filled.

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The chunk taken out of this wheel arch has also been patched up.

Will spend a bit more time with the sander then throw some paint at it.  May have a shot at remodelling my original work on the offside front corner first though as the state of that makes my skin crawl...

At least matching the original level of finish on an Invacar isn't too strenuous, though even that's horribly time consuming!

 

Edit: TP is now officially booked into the Festival of the Unexceptional (20th July), Classic Stoney (2nd June), and the van for the Luton Festival of Transport (9th June).  Just wanted to actually get some shows in the diary as I utterly failed at that last year and made it to two or three in total.

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16 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

Awesome stuff! with this amount of work going on, Might be time at getting a better match paint wise? :)

Not worrying too much about that...this is a perfect match to one of about five shades of blue that were already on the car.  It's apparent where I've done some of the sanding that she has already been painted a bunch of times in several places.

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The work going into TP makes me happier than it ought to, given I know neither the owner nor the car.

Dumped uncerimoniously in a damp field for years, then retrieved only to have her engine stolen by a man with a beard and an adventure hat - but look at her now!

Good work.

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I reckon that I will probably be sticking with the Ford blue colour I've got here.  It's an almost perfect match to at least some of the existing paint on the car, and sticking with a readily available modern colour just makes sense I think as it will make any future touchups far less of a pain in the tail.  I reckon using a close "off the shelf" match is in the spirit of how the cars would have been looked after in their day.

 

This morning I made an absolutely godawful mess in the garage by attacking TP with the sander and some paint.  I swear I will be finding filler dust for years...the bloody stuff gets everywhere.

Does look like we're moving in the right direction to me.

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The rear could do with a lot more sanding, though I was running out of both time and patience by the time I got there, so it will be revisited of course.

The reason I really wanted to get a basic skim of paint over there this afternoon was that there was a local show this afternoon which I wanted to get TP over to for her public debut at an event other than just driving around.  Especially given I arrived yesterday to find I'd got the date wrong.

Did we make it?

Of course we did!

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Here's a few snaps of some of the other motors that were there.

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Plethora of Astons.  Not really surprising given the proximity of their factory and that one of the organisers is apparently in the owners club.

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Don't think I've seen an MGB in this colour before.

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Normally a BMW wouldn't get a second glance from me (635 excepted), but seeing an i8 up close always feels special.  They're still a gorgeous looking car I think.

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The level of attention to detail is just crazy.

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Oddest coloured car of the day award goes to this Ford Prefect.

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Somehow that colour works better on this than a Seat Arosa...

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Lovely Javelin...am I right in thinking we've got a Jowett enthusiast on here somewhere?

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One of those cars which somehow manages to just look "right" somehow.

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Hard not to like a Scimitar.

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I just love the degree of colour in this photo given we live in a world of silver, grey, white and slightly off white cars these days.

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Tail fins for the win!

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There were a few Sevens there, this one is a really early one though if I'm not mistaken.

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Still need to actually drive an actual Mini at some point!

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It would have been downright rude to not take a bunch of photos of this.  There's no angle it doesn't look fantastic from.

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As usual I never actually took any close-ups of my own car. 

Definitely need to make up an information sign to put with the car, as the number of questions I wound up answering was very surprising...and most people didn't even know that they had been rendered illegal and had mostly been scrapped.

Importantly TP ran perfectly both to and from the event, even managing an overtake on the dual carriageway on the way there - cue one very puzzled looking Zafira driver.  Afraid I didn't have a camera running at that point to capture that moment...maybe next time (this is why I really need get a proper camera mount so recording video isn't such a pain).

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Awesome stuff, happy to see another Model 70 thats getting out and bout regularly now, and with minimal issues :)

although I do "gnash my teeth" LOL when you say "made illegal" as they where never made illegal, its just a big misconception they where just mass withdrawn by the government in 2003-4, they few examples that where privately owned from new, or had already escaped the government grasp continued to pootle around.

much like when a Bus operator withdraws a certain bus type, just because they where withdrawn does not suddenly make that bus type illegal :)

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The Ford Blue is nice, looks brighter than anti-septic original blue.  I only just realised this dollywobblers old car. Nice to see a parts car live again. Normally I'd cynically expect a spares car to have a butterfly lifespan once robbed. 

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Yeah, my words were a bit mangled there - the sodding editor had eaten my reply twice while I was trying to sort the images out, so my patience for re-typing everything on my phone was running out!

Think I'm seriously just going to ditch uploading images here and do a copy/paste from elsewhere with them externally hosted as trying to wrangle them on a mobile device now is just such an utter nightmare.

 

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9 hours ago, chadders said:

The MGB is in citron, a fairly popular colour at the time if I remember correctly, but has been fitted with the wrong grill.  

This is true. It should not be fitted with a BBQ :D

Anyway it either should have the honeycomb grille like mine or rubber bumpers. That year is the change over point for Chrome and Rubbers. But I'm not enough of an MGB expert to really tell from the outside. 

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Obviously as we've been having a quiet weekend away haven't really been doing any car stuff save for living in the van.


The sun actually decided to appear for a while this afternoon, so took a couple of photos of our quiet little corner of nowhere.

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Back home tomorrow so normal service should be resumed as of tomorrow evening.

 

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Now safely home.  Glad to report the van didn't miss a beat.  The relative ease with which 70mph can be obtained for overtaking on the motorway now still surprises me a bit.

Did make one upgrade when I got home.  The little 10" TFT (fitted I'm guessing around 2000-2005) was essentially useless.  The image quality was basically on par with the little screens you get on airliners about 15 years ago, except with even worse contrast.  Input was limited to analogue RF, DVD, composite video or an SD card supporting only a handful of mostly obsolete file formats.

It was however attached to a standard VESA mount, which meant I could easily swap it out for something else.

Just like this.

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Which can still fold away out the way during transit

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Which is necessary as when facing the top of the bed it does stick out a bit.

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It was free though, so willing to forgive a fair bit. 

Had to make a quick run out this evening to pick up some more fluid for the toilet, and of course going out was simply an excuse to take the Invacar out for a run.  Nothing else to report there - still seems to be running well in general, and I'm still waiting on the new brake master cylinder to arrive from wherever it's being sent from.

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