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Finally got back to round 2 of cleaning the carb which has been with me for far too long.  Internally it wasn't really too bad save for a bunch of scale in the float bowl.

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Inlet manifold is now getting the same treatment then should be able to get it returned to its home.

Weather forecast is looking dry for more than five minutes, so dropped the carpets back in the Jag, which makes the car a thousand times more pleasant to travel in.

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Thankfully my usual motor factors have finally reopened their retail counter so I was able to pick up a bunch of brake cleaner (I go through it like water so just get 12 can boxes from them) and the oil and filter for the Xantia which is quite overdue an oil change.

Speaking of the Xantia, a friend dropped these off yesterday afternoon which I'll hopefully get fitted at the weekend. 

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That's a pair of NOS spheres.  Will be nice to have more than an inch of rear suspension travel again.

 

 

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Decided to attack a job I'd been putting off for a while this afternoon.  Attempt number 2 at making the driver's door on the Jag something vaguely resembling weather proof.

After about an hour and a lot of swearing later...

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We will have to see.  Doing anything further requires me to remove the electric window mechanism and I'd really rather not mess with that if I don't have to.

Wouldn't *need* to mess around with this of course if whoever replaced the window motor had just put the original weatherproofing back in place (it was bundled up in a ball in the bottom of the door).

There's a contiguous piece from the top to bottom of the door the whole way along except for where there's an "n" shaped cutout to go around the window motor mechanism...and it's inboard of the wing mirror and window glass which should be the only places significant water should get in.  In theory.

There's an extra layer behind the door handle and speaker areas because they're where most of the water was appearing in the cabin.

Not really visible, but I finally replaced the missing screw holding the lens on this light.

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Which hopefully means it won't fall off about every tenth time the door is closed now.

Really hope the water stays put now as I *really* don't want to have to take the electric window apart.

Oh...forgot to originally include...why didn't someone tell me I was being a blind idiot when I missed that the wiper arms on the Jag are sided?

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Sitting at a far more sensible level now I think.

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1 hour ago, Ben_O said:

Regarding brake cleaner, if you use a lot of it, have you considered buying it in 5ltr containers to then decant into a pump spray bottle?

Might work out more economical for you than the aerosol tins.

Something I'll need to have a think about.  At the moment storage is an issue as it's easier to cram aerosol cans into corners in the garage than 5 litre bottles!

Definitely is on "the list" for things to look at when (if) the garage finally gets sorted out.

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How am I ever going to tell which car is mine out here...Oh...wait...

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I get the impression that while it may have taken a while for us to tick over the first thousand miles the second one will take anywhere near as long...

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One of the bits of trim fell off the inside of the offside door last time out, so today I decided to call time on the spray adhesive and got some old school goop involved.

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Then wedged it firmly in place.

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I reckon this will stay stuck a lot better.  Can see me redoing most of these in the same way at some point.  Summer will be the real tell when things get warm.

Also on the subject of doors...I completely randomly spotted today that the weatherstrip between the two sliding window panes on the nearside (the offside one is missing) was installed backwards...I apparently totally failed to notice that there was a plastic side and a felt side when I installed it.  Does a far better job of stopping the draught when the window is closed now!

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Only took me approximately two years to notice.  Ten points for observation to me.

Annoyingly it appears that even with the level sorted that we do still have a slight oil leak.  It looks like it *might* be actually coming from the oil pressure switch as the whole area around it looks a bit wet.

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Have given the general area a good spray down with degreaser so we can have another look after the next trip out to see if it's the culprit.  Would be nice as it's a cheap and easy part to change.

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Not holding my breath though...My gut feeling is that we're looking at a leak from the crankshaft oil seal.

The belts are in a state as you can see too.  They have been loose for a while now...but lately have been getting a bit ridiculous.  Aside from the increasingly unhappy squeak every time the starter is operated from cold, it's never good when you can SEE how slack a belt is.

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Yes, that is as floppy as it looks.  Especially the one nearest the camera.

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The reason I hadn't done something about this sooner was simple: I'd been completely and utterly unable thus far to shift the nut on the Dynastart pulley.  The belt tension on this engine is adjusted (like on old VWs) by adding or removing shims between the pulley sheaves...so any tension adjustment involves removing that big nut.  While there are two holes in the fan to allow you to wedge it in place - the nut was tight enough that these holes were ovalling out from the torque I was applying. 

Right up until the point that I *finally* spent an hour turning the back of the garage upside down and unearthing the impact gun.

In approximately 0.3 seconds it buzzed it straight off without it seemed like any effort whatsoever...Didn't even have to lock the pulley...

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Sometimes you just need the right tool for the job at hand.

It's not a tool you'll use for every job (and using it for the wrong one can cause you no end of headaches...), but really is an absolute godsend when presented with something like this or trying to get a wheel nut that's been done up by Kwik-Fit to 10,000,000,000 times more tightly than it needed to be.  This was less than £50 and for the three jobs I've really used it for so far I reckon has already more than paid for itself in saved time, sweat and spilled blood.  Just make sure if you get one to get a good quality set of sockets to go with it.

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The other reason I wanted to get this lot apart was so that I could actually clean up the pulley running surfaces...After this engine had spent a good number of years sitting outside in the weather they were unsurprisingly in quite a state - I'm honestly surprised that the belts didn't just self destruct given the state these were in.

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Definitely beyond the point of "self cleaning" at this point...so out with the carbide mop.  Realistically  I could do with a new set of pulley sheaves, but the heavy, rough pitting that will shred belts is gone at least.  I do have a friend with a lathe so might have a chat to see if it would be possible to use that to knock some of the crud off.

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The fan hub (which forms the rear face of the pulley) got the same treatment.

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Again...It really has seen better days, but is a lot better than it was.

The belts will want replacement now as running on the pulleys in that state has unsurprisingly wrecked them.  I'll grab a new pair next time I'm in the vicinity of Motorserv.   They're not exotic or expensive so I'm not worried about that.  They are at least properly tensioned now though (if anything a little over-tight in the case of the front belt).

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Not really too worried - they'll be getting replaced shortly anyway - I'll spend a bit of time ensuring that the replacements are tensioned as close to as per the manual as possible.

Quick test revealed that the "chirp" on activating the starter is indeed now gone.

I had also completely failed to appreciate quite how much noise the belts were making at high engine speeds...The engine is SO much quieter and smoother when revved now.  Will be interesting to see if that's at all obvious when on the move - though given that about 85% of the noise you're aware of is CVT and gearbox I rather doubt it.

Will probably be making a run up to Pleiades later this week to pick up a couple of hydraulic lines for the BX (been a couple of weeks since I touched it and that's starting to nag at me).  About an hour's run each way according to Google, adds ten minutes to avoid motorways.

I'm very tempted to take TPA for that trip.  Seriously tempted...Xantia makes by far the most sense (Jag isn't going that far until I properly track down the infuriatingly intermittent charging problem), but I think it's really about time I took TPA on a decent run.

Speaking of the Xantia...I *need* to figure out why the boot won't open, plus I need to give it a service.  Just struggling to find enthusiasm for it a bit lately.  Think that happens when you've owned any car for a few years, there are high spots and low spots periodically, and I'm in one of those with it at the moment.  Can't see me moving her on though unless someone offered a swap for a solid Cherokee (which will never happen as said Cherokee is worth about five times more than the Xantia even without the current niggles) anyway.  Just too competent a car for that.  Oh...or a Renault 25.  Would have to be a pre-facelift car though... preferably a Monaco.

Seriously, I just need a bloody aircraft hanger so I can just buy one of everything that's on my wish list without having to get rid of stuff!

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Decided to have a better shot at cleaning the Dynastart pulleys up on TPA. 

There is deep enough pitting that they'll never be perfect, though I think this should be good enough for the job...given that the previous belts lasted the best part of a thousand miles and still worked once the tension was adjusted...if I go through £14 of belts once a year or so I'm really not going to lose any sleep over it.

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Sadly Motorserv only had one belt (Gates 6262MC for reference) so I'll need to swing by tomorrow to pick up the second one before I can fnish reassembly.

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On 4/14/2021 at 4:53 PM, Zelandeth said:

Well let's monitor the Invacar oil leak now I've resolved this.

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Dumb mechanic error.  Guessing I forgot to thread the dipstick in to take the reading.  Let's see if this has sorted it next time we're out.

Only real car job was to finish sorting the wipers on the Jag.  When I sorted out the intermittent motor back last year I never really put any effort into getting the wiper alignment right and had broken the non return valve for the windscreen washers.  Both of these issues were resolved today, so the wipers now park in the correct spot again, so only a quarter of the way rather than halfway up the windscreen.

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Replaced the wiper blades too as the ones on there looked horrible.  They went rusty pretty much the day they were fitted.

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Last job was to realign the washer jets as the driver's side one washed the scuttle and the passenger side one was pointing skywards.

Much better.  Granted that's one item of about 700 on the to do list ticked off...but it's something at least!

Sorry to be a pain, but shouldn't the curved arm be on the passenger side? 

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3 hours ago, dollywobbler said:

Oh balls. You've already sorted it. Sorry, playing catch up!

Good work on the Invacar. Don't forget aircooled engines can be good at spreading oil around. My leak was very bad from the oil cooler seals, but because if the airflow, the oil went everywhere!

Can you do me a favour?

Could you grab a hold of the crankshaft pulley on TWC and see if there's any detectable fore and aft play?  I can feel a distinct "clonk" doing that on TPA, but given the slightly odd clutch/drive setup I don't know if that's just to be expected.

I'll actually measure it at some point shortly, but it's something I've been meaning to ask about pretty much since since the day I revived this engine!

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Task number 1 today... changing rear spheres on the Xantia.  Want this done so I can drop the sphere removal tool back off with its owner.  I hate having other people's tools on loan for longer than absolutely necessary as I'm paranoid about losing them.

Dodged the usual game of chasing the ramps around by doing the job on the lawn.  They dig in enough there to stay put.

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Of course because it's the Activa there's a hydraulic line in precisely the most awkward place when you're trying to get the tool onto the sphere.

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Not enough to be a problem, just enough to be moderately annoying.

Offside one first, wound off without too much of a fight.

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Only slight game I had there was the seal vanishing into another dimension (I did find it eventually) which had me second guessing if I'd got the old one out of the strut for a few minutes.  New one in.  That's this side done.

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Nearside required a little more persuasion to shift, but I was still able to do it by hand just using the sphere tool.  Didn't need to get any additional breaker bar or anything involved.  It's really nice working on a car where the previous owner or a garage haven't overtightened absolutely everything.

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New sphere on.

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Tightened the bleed screw on the regulator back up, checked for leaks then that's that job done.  Maybe 20 minutes?

Well it would be if the new spheres weren't dud.  Knew it was a bit of a risk being NOS ones from 1998...but was worth a shot.  Offside one is passable, nearside one though is just as bad as the one that came off.

No huge inconvenience really, as mentioned above they take about 20 minutes to change and they were given to me free, so I'm really not that irked.  Just would have been nice to get it done in one hit.

We'll be playing this game again shortly then!

 

Second new belt was picked up for TPA today so those have now been fitted.  Adjustment seems spot on with the six spacers split evenly with three on each side.

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Glad to report that the re-stuck bit of door trim has indeed stayed stuck.

On the subject of trim, while getting the whole roof lined is definitely a job for "sometime in the future" one bit I really wanted to address was the rear C pillar on the offside, mainly because of an unsightly historic repair there.

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Conveniently I had a couple of offcuts left from when I did the carpeting job which I was fed up of shuffling from place to place in the garage.  They were just big enough to do this.

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Far tidier!

Obviously made a matching one for the other side too.

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Have left them both wedged in place while the glue sets.  I'd really like to replace the windscreen demister duct, however it's still a way down the list - especially at £25+ a metre!

 

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      New clutch
      Brand new MoT
      Superb MoT history
      4 x as new Continental tyres
      Last owner for 15 years, her husband before that for 4 years
      Very tidy MB-Tex interior
      Drives well
      All electrics work
       
      The dealer kindly delivered the car to my house but I managed a pez station shot on route:
       

       
      Plans:
       
      Remove front wings, cut away rust and apply plenty of wob.
      In-situ similar repair for rear arch
      Clean and polish
      Service engine
      Adjust tracking
      Leave patina and enjoy the car as it is
       
      I will update this thread once progress is made.
       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       
      Hopefully these two will become good friends.
       

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