Jim Bell Posted May 3, 2017 Author Share Posted May 3, 2017 The funny thing with these is fundamentally they are fantastic cars, lovely things to drive, typical quality ford handling etc and to a decent extent they resolved a lot of the rust issues associated with previous models but a quick glance through your very comprehensive service history shows in about 10k miles he replaced starter, egr valve, numerous service items, I think a few other bits as well which goes to show even if their working great a big bill could be literally just waiting round the corner to snare you in!! However same can be said for almost all modern cars so by that logic this post is in fact, completely pointless apart from this next sentence. Well bought. All very true. Supose the best you can do is buy as well as you can and accept what comes. Which is good advice for any car really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaughant Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 All very true. Supose the best you can do is buy as well as you can and accept what comes. Which is good advice for any car really. And to be fair you've bought a cracker there. I'm following with interest when the inevitable sale occurs, who knows it maybe the next chariot? Jim Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John F Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 13 days, and it's not for sale yet. How?? Jim Bell and BorniteIdentity 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bub2006 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Well that mpg read out has surprised me. My dad had a 130tdci with some paperwork for a remap of some description and that was lucky to exceed 42mpg. They are nice motors though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooSavvy Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 You'll quite literally light-up Ocean Road! ..... whilst saving up to 'live on, Ocean drive' TS Jim Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooSavvy Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Bet he scribbled that history down last night,swapping pens every now and then.......... we had a 'pool car' at my job (CDi Carlton pezz) and we were far from head office. Car was used a lot by me at weekends and fuelled on Co. Card. Project Director gets a note from head office 'we want to see mileage schedule for pool car' OK? There never had been one - "quick [he said] get one made out for last year... Better use different colour pens!" Will NEVER forget that line..... TS BorniteIdentity, John F and Jim Bell 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted May 3, 2017 Author Share Posted May 3, 2017 Well that mpg read out has surprised me. My dad had a 130tdci with some paperwork for a remap of some description and that was lucky to exceed 42mpg. They are nice motors though.First full tank returned 47.1 mpg but I was booting it and running high on the cruise. This tank I'm nursing it more and its had a service. If its still above 50mpg by the end of the tank Ill be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John F Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 If I still own it by the end of the tank I'll be happy. FTFY Jim Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted May 3, 2017 Author Share Posted May 3, 2017 Enough chit-chat about cars. Where's the crossword solution?Oh. Id forgot about that. Hang on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted May 3, 2017 Author Share Posted May 3, 2017 4 Pillock. Answers. ACROSS2Sechsundfunfzig5,3Fifty Six (plate)4undertake course of exerciseTrain5Foot part drinking house3,3Tow Bar8Deaf eared materialCloth10Tennis kick off of the past7,7Service History13'matic crapAuto Shite14Two part sacramentDual Mass15Chinese correctionCollection17Lords ManorEstateDOWN1closely compactedDents3Pair of 1000ml3,5Two Litre6Raunchy banger track4,4Blue Oval7Pinch the rims5,6Steel Wheels9Becomes wearyTyres11The rock of StaffordshireStone12Boost Stockings5,4Turbo Hose16Racing Belgian build town.Genk paulscavalier and Pillock 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadworkUK Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 I beseech you to apply cable ties to further secure your valuable* wheeltrims. Jim Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted May 3, 2017 Author Share Posted May 3, 2017 I beseech you to apply cable ties to further secure your valuable* wheeltrims. I like to live dangerously. Like James Bond. But with a spare wheel trim in the boot. egg and RoadworkUK 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shep Shepherd Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Very Acceptable egg and Jim Bell 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 Well, this thread has been silent as the car has just been a car. The battery failed so I bought a new one. Cant really grumble about consumables, it had done ok getting 115k on the original imo. Its been earning its keep with runs to the tip/ikea, been a taxi for the dog, as any long car should. The only money Ive spent on it bar service bits and a battery was for a cargo net to save the shopping rolling about. It was up for MOT today and I've NEVER had a straight pass on any car so figured it would want a ball joint, wheel bearing or something. Dropped it off at local enthusiast independant and got a couple of hundred out of the hole in the wall to be on the safe side. News just in: First ever pass for me! The car has never failed a test judging by the online history checker though. Verdict: if you want a car thatll be no bother for 6 months, spend over the odds on a well kept mk3 Mondeo. Its averaging 45mpg local and the air con is still blowing cold. Couldnt ask for more. Craig the Princess, stripped fred, Coprolalia and 19 others 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpjitservices Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Have the injectors been replaced? they are only usually good for about 70k miles. The cost to replace them is a car kill - mine needs doing - same engine. Jim Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpjitservices Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 By the way, If anyone needs a rear cage for Mk3 - £20 collected. Too large to post. Jim Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 I think theyre original man. Unless they were replaced pre-former owner and unrecorded. Are they not £100 each ish recon? Tbh I wouldnt mind paying out about that if and when they do go. Everthing else eye watering has been done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidel_Kakao Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Wish I could double like for Greyhound action. Jim Bell, Lacquer Peel and Dick Longbridge 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 Wish I could double like for Greyhound action. Back seat driver. nacho man, Dick Longbridge, Squirrel2 and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpjitservices Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I think theyre original man. Unless they were replaced pre-former owner and unrecorded. Are they not £100 each ish recon? Tbh I wouldnt mind paying out about that if and when they do go. Everthing else eye watering has been done.I've been quoted £150 for 4 recons, Problem is 4th gear is grinding like buggery too - so gearbox on way out? Engages fine but grinds as it goes into 4th. So getting injectors replaced would be costly if gearbox also needed replacing. Good engine though, plenty of torque - watch for the pipe from EGR to Intercooler. If one day yours is running as flat as a fart it will be that that pipe will have split. Common issue Jim Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I liked my Tddi very much. Quick and economical. But the strut top bearings went and I was advised only genuine items would cure the knocking so it was moved on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nacho man Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 More greyhound pics please. The Moog, Heidel_Kakao and Lacquer Peel 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierraman Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 There's no set timescale for the injectors to begin to fail though 100-130k seems quite usual. They have so many cycles that they are built to cope with, once wear becomes apparent, they start to need recoding to recalibrate the tolerances if you like. Once you get to this stage replacement is on the cards, though stuff like the pump will have a factor on injector life as well, when this fucks up it will take the injectors with it. You can fit some used injectors if you have access to Forscan but the potential for future trouble is quite high. This is assuming you aren't suffering trouble with the variable vane turbo, which effectively bakes crap on to the vanes until they stick, that or the stepper motor in the Turbo actuator doesn't seize due to the heat. My advice with Mondeo diesels, as with any is don't get attached or tempted to throw cash at it. Lacquer Peel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpjitservices Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 There's no set timescale for the injectors to begin to fail though 100-130k seems quite usual. They have so many cycles that they are built to cope with, once wear becomes apparent, they start to need recoding to recalibrate the tolerances if you like. Once you get to this stage replacement is on the cards, though stuff like the pump will have a factor on injector life as well, when this fucks up it will take the injectors with it. You can fit some used injectors if you have access to Forscan but the potential for future trouble is quite high. This is assuming you aren't suffering trouble with the variable vane turbo, which effectively bakes crap on to the vanes until they stick, that or the stepper motor in the Turbo actuator doesn't seize due to the heat. My advice with Mondeo diesels, as with any is don't get attached or tempted to throw cash at it.Agree completely, I say 70k as I have known more than 1 develop slight little niggles relating to injectors around this time frame. My turbo seems ok, put it this way there's certainly plenty of power when you put your foot down. Actuator seems fine also when you turn engine off disengages if u like, the biggest gripe about my Mondeo and it really irks me, is if your sat at any speed I can only describe as what feels like a 'misfire' occurs goes as soon as you put foot back on the gas but cruising foot still job its noticeable but only just and annoys the hell out of me. Presuming this is going hand in hand with the injector problem it has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierraman Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 If caught in time you can prevent the actuator problem by regular excercising of the arm and lubricating it. Swapping one isn't for the faint hearted it's calibrated to the turbo. A lot just disconnect the arm when it starts to give trouble, fooling the actuator into thinking it's opened up. There's a whole array of turbo cleaners you can buy but it's nigh on impossible for them to clean the variable vanes. It's Mr Muscle you want to do that job. I've said it before 160-180k isn't a bad mileage to get one, usually on second injectors and probably 2nd/3rd DMF. Mine was SMF converted so ran a bit unevenly at idle anyway. What make filters are you using? A long shot but cheap filters can cause a lot of trouble, you want either Delphi or Bosch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendry Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I knew TDCI Mondeos were problematic but just reading the last few posts of this topic they sound utterly horrendous, are they really that bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Fuck me. WW has not only owned a car for more than a couple of weeks, it's been a couple of months! Also guys, stop worrying him. It sounds like it's running fine. Sometimes blissful ignorance is best. Dave_Q, Craig the Princess, Lacquer Peel and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebob Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 In short they are like any car, look on any forum and you’ll find listed many inherent faults on the associated vectras / avensis’s / Saab’s, whatever basically. The tdci mondeo has got the same reputation for injectors as rovers did with the k series head gaskets, in reality has everyone on here who had / has a rover suffered hgf? Like anything you can have lemons, but mine was a 1 owner car and I’ve covered over 130k in mine, I’m struggling to think what is better suited to what I need. Steve Jim Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 This is a forum that encourages people to buy Laguna2s. Im not expecting it to last forever, and I'm well aware that catastrophe is potentially always just round the next bend. Till it all goes arse over tit, I'll just keep driving it round. SiC and Kiltox 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 Oh and the egr to IC pipe that always splits has been done. Along with the EGR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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