buckbuckbuckie Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 The Clio dci has to be the winner here. Cheap as chips to buy, tax, insure and run. Parts are dirt cheap and easy to work on. There are 65 bhp, 85 bhp and 100 bhp variants. Cracking cars to drive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garbaldy Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Pug 206 hdi rally slag cost me £229.85 otrMOT £54.85Tax £30.00Insurance £145.00Purchase freeI honestly don't think i could find cheeper motoring. sutty2006, CGSB and Eddie Honda 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairnet Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Panda of spinnage 1.1 eco 06 on - ours is a 59 plate Well under a grand and insuring it was way cheaper than civic that was 190 but is prolly 220 now to tax Panda cut our costs in half and does twice the mpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendry Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 You can get petrols on £30 a year tax, but not anything older, back then it was all diesels that had the cheaper tax. I also don't see the point spending thousands on a new car to save £100 a year in tax, madness!! If you want a new car fair enough, but don't make cheap tax an excuse for buying it. Craig the Princess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairnet Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 If you can afford 12k why would quibble about tax Cavcraft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickwall Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 should this thread not be based on sub 100 quid tax. As other have said, there is lifetime cost of repairs and stuff. I got this list of £30 tax from PH.: audi a2 1.4 tdicitroen c1 1.0citroen c1 1.4 hdicitroen C2 1.4 hdicitroen c3 1.4 hdicitroen xsara 1.4 hdidiahatsu charade 1.0 efidiahatsu sirion 1.0fiat panda 1.3 16v multijetfiat punto 1.3 16v multijet (auto available)Ford Fiesta 1.8 TDdiford fiesta 1.4 tdci (auto available)ford fusion 1.4 tdci (auto available)honda civic ima executivehonda insighthyundai getz 1.5 crtdkia picanto 1.1mazda2 1.4 td (auto available)mercedes a160cdinissan micra 1.5PUG 1071.4 hdipeugeot 107 1.0 (auto available)peugeot 206 1.4 hdipeugeot 206 2.0 hdipeugeot 206 sw 1.4 hdipeugeot 307 1.4 hdirenner1.5 dcirenault megane 1.5 dcirenault modus 1.5 dciseat arosa 1.4 tdisuzuki alto 1.1smart roadstersuzuki alto 1.1toyota aygo 1.0 (auto available)toyota aygo 1.4 d4d (auto available)toyota prius (cvt available)toyota1.4 d-4d (auto available)vauxhall astra ECO4 LS 1.7 DTi 5 Door Hatchvauxhall corsa 1.0 Ecovauxhall corsa 1.3 cdtivolkswagen lupo 1.4 tdivolkswagen lupo 1.7 dieselPolo 1.4 tdi djimbob, M'coli, gordonbennet and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 smart roadster My Smart Roadster, nor any I know of, had £30 road tax. £110 p/a instead, so still pretty cheap. 1g/km over the threshold though which is annoying - surely they could have done a tad more work to get it under it! A lot of the Smart ForTwo's are £30 p/a though. brickwall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickwall Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 I wonder how long all these tiddler diesels will last at this level of tax? Cavcraft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Indefinitely, unless they just slowly increase by a fiver or whatever. However there will be limits, restrictions or charges in driving them to certain places - e.g. city centres, etc. That'll then limit their use. Also tbf, being a modern diesel it's likely they'll mostly die off due to big bills pretty soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forddeliveryboy Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 If you're concerned and upset about a rise of £22 or so in VED to a dizzy and even more rip-off than ever figure, don't begin to consider that you'll pay more in tax if you spend more than a heady £8 a week on petrol or diesel. The thought of covering many miles in a common railer, just because of cheap road tax, seems to verge on playing into their tax-hungry hands unless you've a Yaris. I consider the feeling of tax-rape every year at the post office counter to be an entirely false one - intended to prevent the ownership of reliable, easy and inexpensive to repair common-sense motors which last almost indefinitely. DodgeRover, tooSavvy, ShiteRider and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuvvum Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Aren't all these low tax motors dizzlers? If you aren't thrashing the shit out of them, they clog up spectacularlyThey're 1.4 dizzlers. If you aren't thrashing the shit out of them, you won't actually be moving. Dave_Q 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty2006 Posted April 2, 2017 Author Share Posted April 2, 2017 Them clios are a good cheep option. Just had a quick look on evilbay. Thanks Brickwall, your answer with a list of cars is the one I was looking for!! brickwall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 The more miserable the better? Been looking at Fiesta and fusion 1.4/1.6 TDCi which are £30 a year to tax (probably gone up) but what else is available? Must be something affordable on a Shitters budget, and nothing electric/brand new... Answers on a postcard! If they paid you £30 a year to have a 1.6TDCi, you'd still lose out. rantingYoof 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Watch out, the Renault 1.5dcis have a spectacular habit of lunching their injector pumps, which leads swarf into the common rail and then into injectors killing all 4. This swarf then travels through the fuel return line on the top of the injectors back into the tank. The fuel is then sucked back up into the fuel filter catching it. Pretty comprehensive failure when it (inevitably) occurs. Basically don't buy one cheap with a hard to start/start then dies/etc fault. It's a very common thing on these ages engines. Later uses of the engine (I think around 2006/07?) change the injection system. TL;DR The Renner 1.5 dci implode themselves as Renault's only can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnDeere Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Any older dizzler is going to be taxed (including low emissions charge schemes) into oblivion in the coming years, though could have a bit of a price leap when HM Gov does a diesel scrappage scheme in order to save the lungs of nuns. I'd buy a petrol Honda in good nick. Insurance and repair costs likely to add up far more than the difference between £30 VED and £100 VED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timewaster Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Any older dizzler is going to be taxed (including low emissions charge schemes) into oblivion in the coming years, though could have a bit of a price leap when HM Gov does a diesel scrappage scheme in order to save the lungs of nuns. I'd buy a petrol Honda in good nick. Insurance and repair costs likely to add up far more than the difference between £30 VED and £100 VED.Either that or the price of diesel will sky rocket. Probably to pay for the scrapage scheme. I wouldn't be spending much money on a diesel in the current climate (no environmental pun intended). Cavcraft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2MB Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Been said but Daihatsu Charade or even a sirloin. Tiny, tinny and unrefined but will do 60mpg and 100mph and seat 4 adults pretty comfortably. I found ours hilarious fun and dared the little bastard to go wrong. It didn't, in spite of me taking it off road fairly often. The little 3 pot is head and shoulders above other small car engines for character, noise and usable power and isn't known for expensive issues like the small diesels mentioned. Lacquer Peel and tooSavvy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkNWeigh Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 I have no idea what things cost a year to tax anymore. All mine except for the modern Fiat 500, which I think is £30, are on finance.It's like a PCP for tax, this is what goes out tomorrow, it's also reminded me I should tax the new Volvo, out of principle I won't tax any new car that was already taxed until the next month. I haven't come unstuck yet. brickwall and Jerzy Woking 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooSavvy Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 ^^^ +honourable mention of Suzzi 3bangga Re: Daishitzu post above TS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardmorris Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Citroen C3 HDi were all £30 tax I believe, and the oldest is now 14 years old. Not the most durable car around though.My dad traded his for a DS4 last August. It was £35 a year tax I think- his had 75000 on a 60 reg. only real problems were exhaust brackets, a stone through the condenser and a fuel leak. It was fine, but not exciting - I do like the new DS though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierraman Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 I don't think the price of diesel will sky rocket, it impacts too many businesses. The impact will be it will be nigh on impossible to find a 'worth having' diesel for less than £4000, all the smoky rough running bags of shit will be left, the 80k one owner jobs will get crushed as they'll be part exed for new Stuff as they are likely to be owned by people in a position to afford a new car. I've a diesel, I'd doubt very much I'll find one worth having in six months time, so it'll be back to Petrol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickwall Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 "Toxic Tax" on the news today. It did mention age of vehicles, but I missed that bit. 35 cities to be given the powers to have a 12 quid per day tax on diesels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty2006 Posted April 2, 2017 Author Share Posted April 2, 2017 That'll put people off visiting the cities, well done government! Haha brickwall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 "Toxic Tax" on the news today. It did mention age of vehicles, but I missed that bit. 35 cities to be given the powers to have a 12 quid per day tax on diesels.I hope that applies to the stinky buses too. overrun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forddeliveryboy Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Taxis, buses and delivery vans must make up a good percentage of the pollution in cities but if it's £12 a day then it will make sense for them to pay up and continue polluting as usual. Whereas a one trip in, one out shopper will instantly be put off and take away even more business from shops. sutty2006 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayW Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 No helpful suggestions, but feeling your pain having just spent £320 taxing the Saab. Fucking Wow! My arse still hurts and every time I cough a bit of poo comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctormop Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I saw a 2005 Suzuki Alto on the modern day equivalent of a bomb site used car pitch today, 78.000 miles, pretty well scratched and dented, fsh, 2 owners from new, £30 tax, 595 of your English pounds, Seriously considered the merits of same; must be as cheap as catching the bus these days surely; clicked my remote central locking fob; got back into my 2003 Civic, (£145 tax) stuck the aircon on max and thought Nah, (Alto of course has nothing comfort related apart from a seat to sit on) The reminder from the DVLA makes me miserable once a year, an extra £2 a week to have a few luxuries in a motor that I have true faith in is worth it to me.ps stuck the Alto reg through confuse a meerkat whilst going to compare for a laugh and found that going from a 1.4 to a 0.99ish would save less than £20 a year, just doesn't seem worth it somehow. Lacquer Peel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arragonis Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Another vote for the 107/C1/Aygo trio. Plus points:- Don't rot- early (cheaper) ones will have had undersized clutch replaced by now- No cambelt- quite nippy (up to ~70 anyway)- parts are cheap, including tyres- nice drive, chuckable like an original mini.- 50+ MPG round town, less on the motorway (MPG takes a big dive cruising at 80+...)- DIY friendly - ish. Bad points- 3 door front seats don't fold, you lose the adjustment setting.- Boot is small.- Seats not great for long journeys- Can get noisy.- Exhaust back boxes rot quickly- Glass rear hatch, optional parcel shelf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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