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Top Gear reloaded- ”Cheap rare cars” roadtrip

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9 minutes ago, HMC said:

Couldn’t agree more on all points. The showbizzy aspect of mcguinness I agree with, but like at the electric car expo to me it comes across a bit tongue in cheek and not taking himself seriously so to my mind that’s fine

 

I laughed very much at that bit, because we watch (well, used to) take me out alot and he was doing a massive parody of himself in that bit. 

The bit where he was in the caravan and the other two called him was funny too

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I’m probably childish but I laughed more than I have done for a very long time during a top gear episode when they were doing that electric shock lap thing.

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On 6/23/2019 at 9:31 PM, sutty2006 said:

I’m surprised one of them didn’t end up through the front of a shop window..... or those flimsy barriers with the GP stood behind. Still a good show though 

Thought the same.,  And Flintoff did have a proper off too

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14 hours ago, Jerzy Woking said:

How much is a basic service on a BMW 320, main competitor to the Tesla S?

It rarely gets pointed out that the Tesla won't need a service in the same sense that the BMW has one. Or does the BBC not want to say that?

My electric scooter service consists of a check on brakes, lights, head and wheel bearings, and tyres. Takes all of 10 minutes, with no parts such as oil and filters to buy.

I’ll have an accurate answer to this question in a month or so. 

“Electric cars don’t need servicing” is a fallacy though - don’t know about Tesla but other EVs have very ordinary service schedules and costs even if they don’t actually consist of changing oil etc. 

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I’ll have an accurate answer to this question in a month or so. 
“Electric cars don’t need servicing” is a fallacy though - don’t know about Tesla but other EVs have very ordinary service schedules and costs even if they don’t actually consist of changing oil etc. 
For routine servicing I doubt there is much difference, most of the non drivetrain bits to my eye are pretty much the same.

Suspension might have a harder life coping with the additional weight so I would expect things like bushes and linkages to need changed more frequently

The big savings will come once the cars start to hit the sort of mileages where ICE cars are needing DPFs/DMFs/Turbos/clutches/timing belts etc. The electric motors should and do last forever.

However on balance the cost of replacing batteries is still high, but older Nissan Leafs (leaves?) Seem to hang on to decent battery capacity even on taxis with moon mileage.

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"And costs" isn't quite right, nissan charge about the same but include breakdown cover in the price.  Adhering to the schedule without dealer input is costing me very, very little.

All modern cars are heavy now, so suspension is unlikely to be much more of an issue.  I'm sure the battery is a liability, but the costs are only about comparable with a DMF/turbo issue on a diesel, and I'm not seeing any worrying degradation

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3 minutes ago, loserone said:

"And costs" isn't quite right, nissan charge about the same but include breakdown cover in the price.  Adhering to the schedule without dealer input is costing me very, very little.

All modern cars are heavy now, so suspension is unlikely to be much more of an issue.  I'm sure the battery is a liability, but the costs are only about comparable with a DMF/turbo issue on a diesel, and I'm not seeing any worrying degradation

Can you detail what it costs? Interested to learn (and pro-EV, fwiw)

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It's mostly in my thread in the moderns section.  It eats front tyres because I drive like a wanker.  I extend brake fluid and coolant to a little bit more than two years because it seems to be okay to do so.  There's a pollen filter.  And although the 12v battery seemed to be screwed, I charged it and topped it up and it's done me another winter.

Costs aside from tyres <£50 over 18k so far.  And it's paying for itself over three years, assuming100% depreciation, just commuting 50 miles a day.

I have used two pairs of front tyres (maybe one and a half, they weren't new when I got them) in that time, £120 a pair

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I missed last week, as I was busy, but made the effort this week, to actually watch and give it a fair chance, instead of playing internet or having it on in the background. It was pretty good, a good mix of entertainment and a proper review as well. The bit with the hearse was genuinely entertaining, and I will watch again.  My only real concern is that it does still look like the others bully Chris Harris, I know that there is a fine line between banter and bullying but I was not always convinced that it fell the right side. Perhaps I am a little over sensitive on this.

 

Incidentally, Jerzy Woking, I was looking at those electric scooters last week, as my moped is "getting a bit" knackered. I have seen some excellent reviews and some not so good ones, so will be interested in your experiences.

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I've just watched my first episode of 'new' Top Gear. It's fucking awful. 

McGuiness and Flintoff know nothing about either cars or entertainment. The other bloke's ok, but is mostly sidelined. Either make it about cars, or make it about teh lolz. Currently it's about neither. 

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I just got around to watching Sunday's effort. I can safely say I am already tired of the laddish forced banter. Harris is a decent presenter, but is the 'comedy' bullying of him starting to make anybody else slightly uncomfortable? In my eyes, he looks fed up with it himself.

The Harris only test-drive was actually a blessed relief, and I can't even remember what car it was now. We also don't get to see the hot-lap summary for the time-setting either.

They're trying too hard and I think it shows.

Possibly two proper journalistic types and one penis would be better, rather than the current otherwayroundary.

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About as close as an interperetation of autoshite ethos as you’ll find on the BBC. (Assuming they are not destroyed in the process) 

Flintoff and mcguinness go on a road trip through Borneo in “cheap but rare cars” I think that’s where a Matra bagheera/murena +1 might come into it from seeing a few seconds of footage in a montage during the first episode. 

 

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