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7 hours ago, Timewaster said:

I'm sure somewhere there is a forum of piano enthusiasts winging their hands about Top Gear landing their precious pianos on some rotten old car. 

I like to think in a parallel universe there's a How Many Left for remaining pianos in Britain. Don't ask how you'd figure that one out though... 

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On 3/21/2021 at 10:05 PM, face said:

Im sure I’m wrong, but I also don’t fully believe those two are actually at the wheel at certain points of some of the sketches. Perhaps I’m just too sceptical.

There were some clever cuts of Paddy in the car starting to apply a tiny bit of opposite lock then cutting to an external shot of a full on power slide. 
It was the same with the old presenters and can still spot it on the Grand Tour. Low angles so you can’t see the driver. There was an old Top Gear test with a grey M3. There was a great power slide shot but the windows had obviously been tinted in post production editing to hide that it wasn’t Clarkson. 
Shows how cinematic they want it, getting stunt drivers in to make the star look good. 

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On 3/22/2021 at 2:22 PM, BorniteIdentity said:

It's strangely tribal!  I think the design of this monitor that I'm looking at is quite nice, and minimalist.  But if someone was to say "It's shit, it looks dated and there are better available" I'd not become so angry that I should foam at the mouth.

 

On 3/22/2021 at 2:20 PM, Dick Longbridge said:

The YT lass with the white BOP Marina continues to receive the occasional joke* on twitter about how her car should have had a piano dropped onto it. Herpes would be more amusing. 

This is the difference, and the use of the term "tribal" is apt. TG has/had a massive audience and people take what they say as a gospel, it introduced a whole new generation to the concept the BL cars are shit and that the people who bother preserving them are stupid. Plenty of those folk are happy to tell you online or in person and it get's fairly tiring and TG played a considerable part in it. If you want examples of tribalism try saying BL cars aren't actually as bad as being forced to drink sulphuric acid.

Much like the recent "Dad cars" bit. It only happened because the cars in question are currently fashionable to own, it's nostalgia that's allowed to happen and be celebrated.  Much like the Grand Tour bit where May and Clarkson gush about their Dad's Cortinas and then Hammond beats up an Allegro with a baseball bat. 

A car enthusiast's car is an extension of themselves to a certain extent, and when the most popular motoring show in the world turns around and says "people who like X car are tasteless, stupid cretins and to that end we're going to go out of our way to antagonise them because it's funny and really if they don't like it they should be less shit" it has a profoundly negative effect. I'm lucky, I own a BL car that was largely inoffensive/unknown, so I usually only get grief from the few who actually know what it is rather than the thousands of general public who seem to think Morris Marina ownership places the owner somewhere between tax evasion and collecting child porn on the morality scale.

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I don’t ‘get’ why anyone would specifically choose an FSO Polonez. I think they’re the spawn of Satan. I drove one for MOT in around 1993 and I’m still scarred by the experience.

The thing is, I wouldn’t tell an owner that though if they’d started a thread about their rotten money pit which would be likely to lead them to financial ruin  shiny new conveyance. I’d let them celebrate their purchase and enjoy the praise from others who do ‘get’ them. In the meantime, I’d not comment, view other threads or go and play in the real world. 

Going back to Steph- the YT lass with the white Marina - I really do feel for her. Reading between the lines, there’s lots of praise for her car choices and escapades, and only a small amount of sniping. As with many of us though, I get the impression some of the negativity really gets her down and is something which she struggles to not dwell upon. Bullshit comments suggesting ‘shame Clarkson didn’t drop a piano on yours as well’ are plain pathetic. There really is no other word for it. 

What I’m trying to say, in a roundabout way is if you dont ‘get’ someone’s car choice, surely it’s basic etiquette, in the words of Ronald Kindling, to say nothing at all? Maybe I’m just old fashioned. 

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I’ve got a bit of a blind spot for the db5 it’s such a media object. What are they like to drive? I had no incling of that from the segment, but I suppose that’s not really the point when a car becomes an “icon”. 

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Yes, she's worked with Chris Harris for sure, possibly Evans the twit too.  Harris is pretty upset about it I think, but posted on Twitter that there will be a better Sabine tribute later in the series.

He also had a go at me on Twitter when I moaned that I didn't like the look of this Renault guff. I still respect the man, but his tone was clearly "these are shit cars and were shit examples in a scrapyard" which is exactly the tone that has always annoyed me on Top Gear. If it hasn't got loads of power, it's not interesting. (though ironically, Harris owns a 2CV that's far slower than mine, so there you are). 

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They did mention at the start of the program it was recorded before Sabine passed away. 

I thought the same about some of the driving including the bit with freddy in the electric buggy thing. I did read the previously that they commonly go back with the stig and or a stunt drive and re-film certain shots even in the old days.

I thought it was funny on the Smith and Sniff podcast that they said when they used to do these car challenge things they'd drop the cars off at the presenters houses so they had time to get used to them. When Clarkson got that Starion for one of the challenges apparently he was extremely excited and when Richard Porter phoned his house his wife said "he's not in he's out playing with his Starion."

It shows at some point they genuinely gave a shit about the cars.

 

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On 3/22/2021 at 1:58 PM, Tadhg Tiogar said:

Common, though. A grand for the masses, if you like.

Doesn't quite have the grandeur and history of a Steinway.

I'd been in my current job about a month when I got told by the big boss to mend the leg of a Bosendorfer belonging to Tori Amos. Shouldn't have googled the value before I started, nervous is an understatement...

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On 3/23/2021 at 8:28 PM, Dick Longbridge said:

I don’t ‘get’ why anyone would specifically choose an FSO Polonez. I think they’re the spawn of Satan. I drove one for MOT in around 1993 and I’m still scarred by the experience.

You were driving it wrong!

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1 hour ago, St.Jude said:

You were driving it wrong!

I refer you to this photograph.

See the lad with the dark, bowl-cut hair? Look into his eyes and see the woe. He'd only been trapped in the car for five minutes. Apparently he's still receiving therapy almost four decades later. He was one of the lucky ones. 

 

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47 minutes ago, Dick Longbridge said:

I refer you to this photograph.

See the lad with the dark, bowl-cut hair? Look into his eyes and see the woe. He'd only been trapped in the car for five minutes. Apparently he's still receiving therapy almost four decades later. He was one of the lucky ones. 

 

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I want to know, now, how you managed to get hold of my family photographs!?

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On 25/03/2021 at 02:15, Dan_ZTT said:

I'd been in my current job about a month when I got told by the big boss to mend the leg of a Bosendorfer belonging to Tori Amos. Shouldn't have googled the value before I started, nervous is an understatement...

One of my uncles was a French polisher before he became a professional footballer and later a fireman. Polishing a grand piano was a nightmare according to him.

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On 3/24/2021 at 11:00 AM, BL Bloke said:

I spent quite a bit of the last episode thinking 'how much!!!!!!' at the prices of some of the cars on there. There are obviously a few folk out there with more money than they know what to do with.

Best Bond car? A Bug of course. 😃

It is back to the price of classics generally which, as most of us are aware, are strong. Top end classics were last just about affordable with a reasonable job back in the mid 90s. Bit like houses I guess.

OHMSS Aston DBS was my fav, mainly because it was out of fashion for so long.

I like the current TG as does the wife and 6 and 9-year-old kids. It is just a light entertainment show and works well.

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1 hour ago, The_Equalizer said:

 

I like the current TG as does the wife and 6 and 9-year-old kids. It is just a light entertainment show and works well.

Aye. But that’s not going to stop a load of internet pub bores going online every week and cry-wanking about how they didn’t enjoy the segment where a car they don’t own and probably wouldn’t have bought if presented the chance got a scratch on it, and why isn’t there a weekly segment on IAM standard driving craft. I mean, i feel sorry for them being strapped down and forced to watch this programme they don’t enjoy and that isn’t made for them every single week, don’t get me wrong, i just wish the staff at their care home for the terminally tedious would switch the wifi off occasionally. 

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1 hour ago, Rod/b said:

Aye. But that’s not going to stop a load of internet pub bores going online every week and cry-wanking about how they didn’t enjoy the segment where a car they don’t own and probably wouldn’t have bought if presented the chance got a scratch on it, and why isn’t there a weekly segment on IAM standard driving craft. I mean, i feel sorry for them being strapped down and forced to watch this programme they don’t enjoy and that isn’t made for them every single week, don’t get me wrong, i just wish the staff at their care home for the terminally tedious would switch the wifi off occasionally. 

Sadly that is the modern world and as you inadvertently pointed out previously people would have just had a moan down the pub or at the other half, kids, cat and/or dog. Now they have literally the whole World to inform. Does the internet now do more harm than good?

Anyway back to TG ...

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  • HMC changed the title to NEW New new new New top gear OFF ROAD TRIP

I'm enjoying this series. I was a big fan of the Clarkson era, not impressed with the next generations, but it's slowly developing it's own personality. I've taken quite a while to see the point of Paddy, nothing against him personally just not really seeing what he adds to the show. What I think that it has really needed was time, time for the teams to develop relationships and not feel forced and equally for the audience to get used to them. I don't like the mindless destruction of vehicles, but I didn't in the old days either, in fact I missed several whole years of Clarkson, when they seemed to destroy 2cvs every week, each to their own, but not for me.

I thought that this episode was entertaining, had some good humour and about the right mix of silliness.  No, I'm not likely to buy any of those vehicles, but it was a bit of escapism for an hour, and I'll be back next week.

That said though, surely they could have cut a few minutes tonight for a proper tribute to Sabine, they've had nearly a fortnight! Just replay the bit with the transit if they are struggling!

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