Felly Fav and Trum. *Wanna see a fupped engine?**

[wesacosa]

52 minutes ago, EightMegs said:

My 1991 Toyota Carina has it on the right, as did the '94 Starlet in my PFP and that dreadful '06 Hyundai Getz I had a few months ago, but my mk1 Yaris has it on the left. I think the Japanese and Korean marques clung on to the right-hand indicator stalks longer than European ones did.

definitely, the k10 Micra and my 96 Mazda Xedos both have them on the right. 

[dozeydustman]

3 hours ago, EightMegs said:

My 1991 Toyota Carina has it on the right, as did the '94 Starlet in my PFP and that dreadful '06 Hyundai Getz I had a few months ago, but my mk1 Yaris has it on the left. I think the Japanese and Korean marques clung on to the right-hand indicator stalks longer than European ones did.

Nissan started the switch from right to left with the T12 Bluebird, facelift version so late 1980s, all subsequent Euro/UK spec Nissan models gradually shifting to the left, I think the K10 was the last in 1992-3 when the blob K11 came about.

Toyota was mid-1990s with E110 Corolla, P90 Corolla. Probably same for Toyota-owned brands such as Subaru and Daihatsu.

Not sure about Mazda but probably similar era.

Kia/Hyundai hung around to around 2008 when Kia facelifted the mk1 Picanto, Rio, etc and Hyundai dropped the named models for the i numbered cars.

My word this makes me sound like a proper sad case, knowing when cars switched the sides of their indicator stalks. Or is it useful* knowledge?

[666jjp]

my wife's 1995 rav4 is on one side, but our 1998/9 facelift rav4's are on the other.

[Dick Cheeseburger]

19 hours ago, Yoss said:

It looks like both your cars have the same indicator stalk. The Invacar one is straight out of the Leyland parts bin. 

Bringing it back to Landcrabs again, the autos had their selector on the dash on the right hand side. Combined with umbrella handle handbrake on the earlier cars left the floor completely clear. I had a Wolseley 18/85 auto with optional power steering. You could drive it with just your right hand and foot, leaving your left side free to lean on the armrest or eat pies or pretty much anything. 

Do it. 

My late-ish Morris Minor had the indicator stalk on the right - the dash setup was identical to this:

Most Jap stuff was also on the right until the mid to late 90s. I remember imported JDM classic Imprezas were on the right, whilst the UK variant of the same year was on the left. 

[Yoss]

So if I can take you back to this picture from a couple of months ago. 

The duct tape was doing such a good job I left it alone but finally decided to bite the bullet and buy a new pair from CZ. 

They were only £25 each but are made of Chineseum so it's a bit of a gamble, let's see what happens. 

First thing I noticed is that on the original Škoda mirror the three cables are wrapped in a plastic sheath whereas these are bare. 

More noticeable underneath. 

And the thread here was rather messy meaning the locating ring that screws on to it would only go so far. I tried cleaning it up but to no avail. Fortunately this was only on the one mirror. 

And then when I fitted them I noticed the adjusting toggle is slightly longer so the rubber grommet won't locate properly, so I need to shorten those. 

Then, best of all, when I tried adjusting the mirrors, well the toggle does adjust them but not in the direction you move it. It appears to be completely random. I just had to laugh at that point. So, so far, exactly what you'd expect from cheap Chinese shit. 

BUT! And it is a big but that warrants both capitals and an exclamation mark, the mirrors fold in like they are supposed to. 

None of the original Škoda mirrors do this anymore as they have seized solid. The two parts of the pivot are made of different metals that react with each other and fuse together. This is the whole reason I needed a new mirror in the first place. As I said before I just clipped wing mirrors gently with another car quite slowly and it just snapped off. I doubt any original Favorit mirror has been able to this for about 25 years. 

But mine does. 

 

Look, powerfold mirrors. With my hands providing the power. 

Of course, I've no idea how long they'll stay like this, they might seize up just as quickly as the originals so I need to remember to fold them in on a regular basis to keep them supple. 

 

Also got a few other bits in the same order. I always do this as its about £8 minimum postage from CZ so you might as well chuck in a few extra bits as they're so cheap anyway. The biggest and shiniest of which were a pair of front fog lights. They are made by the same people as the mirrors so we'll see how long they last. But the originals have lost a lot of their reflectiveness. So they might be shit but they will look better to start with and they were only a tenner each. But I'm going to wait until I don't have to lie on a wet drive to fit tgem. 

 

[grogee]

Masterful work there Yoss. So jealous of your Fav. It's almost like I should buy one of my own... Oh. 

[Yoss]

4 minutes ago, grogee said:

Masterful work there Yoss. So jealous of your Fav. It's almost like I should buy one of my own... Oh. 

As fun as the Favorit VRS was, I definitely think I kept the right one. 

[IronStar]

On 02/02/2026 at 21:50, Yoss said:

So if I can take you back to this picture from a couple of months ago. 

The duct tape was doing such a good job I left it alone but finally decided to bite the bullet and buy a new pair from CZ. 

They were only £25 each but are made of Chineseum so it's a bit of a gamble, let's see what happens. 

First thing I noticed is that on the original Škoda mirror the three cables are wrapped in a plastic sheath whereas these are bare. 

More noticeable underneath. 

And the thread here was rather messy meaning the locating ring that screws on to it would only go so far. I tried cleaning it up but to no avail. Fortunately this was only on the one mirror. 

And then when I fitted them I noticed the adjusting toggle is slightly longer so the rubber grommet won't locate properly, so I need to shorten those. 

Then, best of all, when I tried adjusting the mirrors, well the toggle does adjust them but not in the direction you move it. It appears to be completely random. I just had to laugh at that point. So, so far, exactly what you'd expect from cheap Chinese shit. 

BUT! And it is a big but that warrants both capitals and an exclamation mark, the mirrors fold in like they are supposed to. 

None of the original Škoda mirrors do this anymore as they have seized solid. The two parts of the pivot are made of different metals that react with each other and fuse together. This is the whole reason I needed a new mirror in the first place. As I said before I just clipped wing mirrors gently with another car quite slowly and it just snapped off. I doubt any original Favorit mirror has been able to this for about 25 years. 

But mine does. 

 

Look, powerfold mirrors. With my hands providing the power. 

Of course, I've no idea how long they'll stay like this, they might seize up just as quickly as the originals so I need to remember to fold them in on a regular basis to keep them supple. 

 

Also got a few other bits in the same order. I always do this as its about £8 minimum postage from CZ so you might as well chuck in a few extra bits as they're so cheap anyway. The biggest and shiniest of which were a pair of front fog lights. They are made by the same people as the mirrors so we'll see how long they last. But the originals have lost a lot of their reflectiveness. So they might be shit but they will look better to start with and they were only a tenner each. But I'm going to wait until I don't have to lie on a wet drive to fit tgem. 

 

Ah the bourgeoise delights of folding mirrors! *cries in 155 mirrors*

Nice improvements!

[Matty]

On 31/01/2026 at 22:26, Yoss said:

Oh okay, that throws my theory out the window then. What Austin is it? I used to collect Landcrabs which are from that era and they were on the right. 

Sorry late back. A40 Farina Mk2.