Felly Fav and Trum. *Wanna see a fupped gearbox?*

[Yoss]

3 minutes ago, Zelandeth said:

That little black box and connector looks very like the hugely overcomplicated dim-dip units my Estelles had.

Everyone else just used a big wirewound resistor, not good enough for Skoda who used a fancy transistorised module.

Ah, yes, I think I have dim dip. That could well be it. 

[AnnoyingPentium]

1 minute ago, Yoss said:

Thanks. It'll be a combination of the round button, twisting or pushing, and the menu button in the right order. I had a quick play whilst blasting Two Minutes to Midnight out at ear bleeding volume but kept going round in circles. 

It's a bit like having to know what 'language' is in German because you've forgotten how to operate a Nokia 3310. 🤣

[Yoss]

2 minutes ago, AnnoyingPentium said:

It's a bit like having to know what 'language' is in German because you've forgotten how to operate a Nokia 3310. 🤣

Sprache. 

[Yoss]

On 10/31/2021 at 9:17 PM, grogee said:

 

It had a piece of mirror tile factory glued to the passenger sun visor so the brochure could claim it had a vanity mirror. 

 

 

On 11/1/2021 at 7:05 PM, Yoss said:

This is the quality* vanity mirror. 

It is probably quite dangerous. I ought to remove it really but I don't know what marks would be left behind. I guess I could just keep it in the glove box in case my passenger ever needed a mirror. 

 

 

On 3/26/2022 at 7:32 PM, DSdriver said:

I've just caught up with this, I have some offcuts of mirrored acrylic. Let me know the dimensions by pm and I'll post a bit off to you trimmed to size.

Thanks to @DSdrivers kind offer this shiny piece of acrylic arrived in the post complete with double sided sticky tape cut to size. Seen here with the original glass one which I had just prized off the sun visor. 

 

So from this

 

To this

 

It still has the look of the last minute afterthought that it undoubtedly was but will no longer gouge out the eyes of my passenger in an accident. The original is still in the glove box if I ever decide to go concurs. 

 

[grogee]

Sweet interior upgrade!

The speaker mission was interesting. Seemingly a UK supplier. I wonder if the stereos were a dock fit or dealer fit item? Back then a lot of stuff (alarms, stereos, even leather seat covers) got fitted at the port. If it was then they could have been UK supplied.

I think mine was F or G reg and I can't remember where the speakers were but I do remember putting in a BAZOOKA subwoofer that I brought back from USA - maximum bass for knicker snapping in my Favorit.

[Yoss]

I think all UK cars had a stereo of some sort, though I don't doubt they were offered in their home market without. Škodas import base over here was in Kings Lynn and I seem to remember the sunroofs were fitted here even though they had the same sunroofs in CZ. 

It's a well known fact that the alloy wheels are British too. They were shipped over to CZ in crates that were then packed with spares to return here, then refilled with wheels and so on and so forth. 

[Yoss]

So following on from yesterdays collection thread, here's some more detailed shots of the newcomer. 

The two still haven't been formally introduced. This is the closest they have come. 

 

The interior is pretty good. Not quite mint but as good as you want for an daily driver. Tidy, but not so you're scared to use it. 

Holey headrests Batman. 

Mmm, veloury

And a centre console. Dead posh. I forgot to take the picture but the upper cubby hole in the console has lines in it to slot in tapes. 

I don't know if the door trims are just faded and are supposed to be black but there is a definite blue hue to them. The horizontal parts are lighter so they obviously have faded but the blue is rather pleasant. Like a good wine or cheese they improve with age. 

 

Škoda Sound.

Like other sound but more so. 

[Yoss]

The engine bay is quite tidy and clean with no noticeable fluid leaks. 

The stupid cone filter is a genuine K&N so I might be able to sell it if I can find a better (by better, I mean quieter) set up. 

 

I wonder if the Felicia air box will still fit in this gap with the modified engine mount. Then I'd just need to slightly extend the intake hose as the throttle body is further to the left on this engine. 

 

The mount itself is a bit crude but very sturdy. 

I've been studying pictures of the original Polo/Lupo mounts and they are a similar shape but thinner and stamped into a curved shape to give strength. 

General view from the offside. 

 

Very neat plug lead installation. 

 

But the leads themselves go into this. 

Obviously a coil pack of some sort but the fact it's mounted on the end of a camshaft makes wonder if there is some sort of moving parts inside. The plug leads are not in the standard 1342 firing order.

 

I need to go and do some reading up on this engine as it's confusing me a bit. I can see where the fuel line comes in and it has multi point injection. But there doesn't seem to be any ECU, so what is telling the injectors when to fire and the coil pack when to spark? Does this mean I'm going to have to go on some VW forums? I do hope not. 

[Matty]

On 10/25/2021 at 4:11 PM, Yoss said:

Triumph has been getting jealous of all the attention being lavished on Favorit and also miffed at being turfed out of the cosy garage and pressed into daily service. 

Mine does that too. I've taken to chucking a board against the back of it at warm up to save cleaning the car behind it

[Yoss]

7 minutes ago, Matty said:

Mine does that too. I've taken to chucking a board against the back of it at warm up to save cleaning the car behind it

That seems like a very sensible idea. Which is probably why it never occurred to me. 

[Zelandeth]

38 minutes ago, Yoss said:

That seems like a very sensible idea. Which is probably why it never occurred to me. 

Exactly the same reason the van has a downward cranked tip on it!

Became rather self conscious of leaving sooty spots all over the side of Chris' car on a cold day.

[Matty]

48 minutes ago, Yoss said:

That seems like a very sensible idea. Which is probably why it never occurred to me. 

You'd reckon sensible but I did it this morning in the garage (car faces arse end out). You can guess the result. Head swimming eyes streaming, it was like a return to the good old days of recreational drugs 😄

[Yoss]

Oh yeah, the Triumph normally lives in the garage when there isn't a broken Felicia in there. It sometimes doesn't go out for months at a time so I occasionally start it up and run it for it a bit. It doesn't pay to hang around in there long even with the doors wide open. 

[J W Pepper]

3 hours ago, Yoss said:

But the leads themselves go into this. 

Obviously a coil pack of some sort but the fact it's mounted on the end of a camshaft makes wonder if there is some sort of moving parts inside. The plug leads are not in the standard 1342 firing order.

 

I need to go and do some reading up on this engine as it's confusing me a bit. I can see where the fuel line comes in and it has multi point injection. But there doesn't seem to be any ECU, so what is telling the injectors when to fire and the coil pack when to spark? Does this mean I'm going to have to go on some VW forums? I do hope not. 

My 1.4 2002 Ibiza has a very similar 8v engine so if you need any tips, advice or answers to any queries you have on these engines, feel free to ask

[AnnoyingPentium]

11 hours ago, Yoss said:

I forgot to take the picture but the upper cubby hole in the console has lines in it to slot in tapes. 

Do you need or want some (maybe more than you have already) tapes for it?

[Yoss]

10 hours ago, J W Pepper said:

My 1.4 2002 Ibiza has a very similar 8v engine so if you need any tips, advice or answers to any queries you have on these engines, feel free to ask

I have the 1.6 8v that this is based on in the Felicia but that has a normal distributor and an ECU. This engine seems to work in a completely different way. 

1 hour ago, AnnoyingPentium said:

Do you need or want some (maybe more than you have already) tapes for it?

I'm ahead of you there... 

I have three boxes of these. It's mostly old Mark Radcliffe shows from the mid 90s.

This one has Stuart Maconie as a guest. These two now share a programme on 6 Music of course. 

But there's a few John Peel shows. 

 

And this will poke a few memories of people of a certain age and mean nothing at all the vast majority of the population. 

 

So most of it is night time Radio 1 from the mid nineties which is essentially what is now 6 Music. There was no digital radio then obviously. Mark Radcliffe, Marc Riley, Stuart Maconie and Steve Lamaq. And Tom Ravenscroft of course who is John Peels son. 

I still have Felicias original stereo in the Triumph but tend to have digital radios in the daily drivers. It says Škoda Power on the front of it so it would go well with the Škoda Sound speakers in the new Fav. If I could get a digital radio with a tape player I would but I don't think such a thing exists. 

[AnnoyingPentium]

4 minutes ago, Yoss said:

If I could get a digital radio with a tape player I would but I don't think such a thing exists. 

Not unless you mibbie did some fuckery with the Sony unit I have (or similar) as the CD changer just uses RCA in (ignoring the communication port) for audio.

Good to see you're sorted for cassettes. I could have sold you half of an old Playstation 4 box worth though!

[J W Pepper]

1 hour ago, Yoss said:

I have the 1.6 8v that this is based on in the Felicia but that has a normal distributor and an ECU. This engine seems to work in a completely different way. 

MK2 Ibiza engine has a traditional distributor

 

MK2 Ibiza Facelift engine has the coil pack

They are good engines, easy to maintain and work on. I was working on my car, and hadn't started it in about 6 months, so I charged the battery and it started first time, all of these engines are quite similar I believe.

I'll have a look to see why the facelift engine has the coil pack mounted near the camshaft, wonder why they changed it?

I'll be starting a thread on my car soon.

P.S. I like the Favorit, I know someone who has had about 4 and has had Skoda's all their life including the original Rapid and 130

[Yoss]

4 minutes ago, J W Pepper said:

MK2 Ibiza engine has a traditional distributor

 

MK2 Ibiza Facelift engine has the coil pack

I'll have a look to see why the facelift engine has the coil pack mounted near the camshaft, wonder why they changed it?

I'll be starting a thread on my car soon.

Yeah, the Felicia is the same as the top one, it's an AEE in VW engine code speak but I know there are many different codes for engines that are practically identical. 

 

So how does the coil pack work on the later engines? I mean it appears to be attached to the end of the camshaft which would suggest something spins round inside. Or is it just a case of that was a convenient place to put it and it's not actually attached to the cam? Is there an ECU somewhere that I haven't found yet? Maybe it's inside the coil as electronics got smaller, the Felicia one is about the size of a large paperback book. 

[J W Pepper]

21 minutes ago, Yoss said:

Yeah, the Felicia is the same as the top one, it's an AEE in VW engine code speak but I know there are many different codes for engines that are practically identical. 

 

So how does the coil pack work on the later engines? I mean it appears to be attached to the end of the camshaft which would suggest something spins round inside. Or is it just a case of that was a convenient place to put it and it's not actually attached to the cam? Is there an ECU somewhere that I haven't found yet? Maybe it's inside the coil as electronics got smaller, the Felicia one is about the size of a large paperback book. 

 The ECU on my car is behind the drivers side wiper arm spindle (RHD cars) and I believe they are known to get buggered because of water ingress because for some reason they stuck a vent on that side.

I'll have a look on how the coil packs work.

My ECU is about an A5 paper size

 

[Yoss]

OK ta, will investigate further. I've googled it and found Lupo/Polo ECUs and they do indeed look smaller, hard to tell in photos, but certainly different to the Felicia. 

 

Meanwhile, I've been messing about with the window that fell out on the way home. 

The glass sits in these two short channels one fore and aft with a little bit of rubber to keep it tight and stop glass/metal direct contact which would not be a good idea. My quick reassembly by the roadside looked like this. 

Not great and you could see how it might just jump out again which is why I drove home with the window shut. 

So to start with I tightened the screw and bolt so channels were parallel with the glass and with much pushing and wiggling and even tapping very gently on a piece of wood layed along the top of the glass I got them to this. 

Which is much better. Looks like they could go in further but I tried lifting the glass up and it's in pretty tight, certainly should be OK for normal use. I don't want to force anything what with it being glass. Also lubed up the cable/channel mechanism with a mixture of grease and WD 40.

 

But, hang on a mo, what's this? 

Why is there an electrical connection in the bottom of the door? It's not for the speaker, it's past that. So I put my hand in and followed the wires and bugger me sideways there's a central locking actuator in there! Who'd have thought. That'll need more investigation. The passenger winder needs lubricating anyway so I'll have to have a look. 

[J W Pepper]

21 minutes ago, Yoss said:

OK ta, will investigate further. I've googled it and found Lupo/Polo ECUs and they do indeed look smaller, hard to tell in photos, but certainly different to the Felicia. 

 

Meanwhile, I've been messing about with the window that fell out on the way home. 

The glass sits in these two short channels one fore and aft with a little bit of rubber to keep it tight and stop glass/metal direct contact which would not be a good idea. My quick reassembly by the roadside looked like this. 

Not great and you could see how it might just jump out again which is why I drove home with the window shut. 

So to start with I tightened the screw and bolt so channels were parallel with the glass and with much pushing and wiggling and even tapping very gently on a piece of wood layed along the top of the glass I got them to this. 

Which is much better. Looks like they could go in further but I tried lifting the glass up and it's in pretty tight, certainly should be OK for normal use. I don't want to force anything what with it being glass. Also lubed up the cable/channel mechanism with a mixture of grease and WD 40.

 

But, hang on a mo, what's this? 

Why is there an electrical connection in the bottom of the door? It's not for the speaker, it's past that. So I put my hand in and followed the wires and bugger me sideways there's a central locking actuator in there! Who'd have thought. That'll need more investigation. The passenger winder needs lubricating anyway so I'll have to have a look. 

My driver's side window has fallen off the runners at least 3 times, so you have to shut the door with the window closed otherwise it will fall out again

[Yoss]

24 minutes ago, J W Pepper said:

My driver's side window has fallen off the runners at least 3 times, so you have to shut the door with the window closed otherwise it will fall out again

Thanks, I'll bear that in mind. At least the door trims come off really easily. 

[RoadworkUK]

3 hours ago, Yoss said:

And this will poke a few memories of people of a certain age and mean nothing at all the vast majority of the population. 

I don't think I'd be able to drive at all safely with Lee and Herring's late R1 show playing, such would be my hysterics.

[Yoss]

47 minutes ago, RoadworkUK said:

I don't think I'd be able to drive at all safely with Lee and Herring's late R1 show playing, such would be my hysterics.

I think they might be a bit niche but that is my sense of humour completely. They are the same age as me which might have something to do with it but even then I don't think anyone else I knew at the time really got it. 

Never quite made the mainstream despite a couple of TV series but launched the careers of Kevin Eldon who pops up in all sorts of things, Sally Phillips and Rebecca Front. 

[J W Pepper]

4 hours ago, Yoss said:

Thanks, I'll bear that in mind. At least the door trims come off really easily. 

While I was at college my grandpa (who I have learnt my mechanical knowledge from) put a piece of foam in the door which reduces vibrations when shutting the door and has done the trick

[Yoss]

Passenger side window winder was very stiff so I thought I'd lubricate that side too. The door trims on this are brilliant. They are so easy to remove. 

There are three of these clips underneath, except they're not really clips, the door trim just sits on top of them. 

And one more at the front that you slide the trim up to. 

Then once you remove the window winder, one screw, and the handle, two screws, all that's left is these two self tappers on the rear edge. 

Once you remove these it just lifts out. No push clips anywhere. The mk1 has them all round and the Felicia went back to them but the mk2 Fav has this beautifully simple system. You can have the trim off in less than five minutes. 

I see the window glass on this side is pushed right home in to the channels so I shall have to monitor the drivers side. 

Note also we have the central locking actuator this side too. 

Anyway the winder mechanism has been lubed and much improved. So as mentioned yesterday have a picture of the tape holding slots. 

Though I envisage much vibration if I actually use them. I prefer the system I use in the Triumph. 

 

 

Finally for today here it is basking in the evening sunshine. 

The camera completely fails to capture the colour. It really is quite unusual. It looks darker than this. Half turquoise, half jade I'd say. 

[AnnoyingPentium]

42 minutes ago, Yoss said:

Though I envisage much vibration if I actually use them. I prefer the system I use in the Triumph. 

This is my system in the Fab and the Duster. I had to stop using the little cubby under the stereo in the Fab (you may know which one I'm on about) as any time I accelerated briskly (a difficult thing to do with 64* horsepower in a heavy car) they'd come flying out and land in my footwell - I've also had a stereo do that mind you.

46 minutes ago, Yoss said:

Has that got a pre-facelift grille on it? Or is that the later one? Either way, it looks lovely.

[Yoss]

Yeah, that's a mk1 grille on a mk2. My blue one is a sort of mk1.5 in that there's no holes at all and a central badge but that's a very minor difference. The mk2 had a central badge with a slot either side but is a very different car. Though obviously all three front end panels are interchangeable. 

[AnnoyingPentium]

4 minutes ago, Yoss said:

Yeah, that's a mk1 grille on a mk2. My blue one is a sort of mk1.5 in that there's no holes at all and a central badge but that's a very minor difference. The mk2 had a central badge with a slot either side but is a very different car. Though obviously all three front end panels are interchangeable. 

The Mk1 grille is the best IMO. Really makes the car look and feel a bit more period, if I've explained that right. 😆

I don't know much about the Favorit, a little more about the Felly, and obviously a lot about the Mk1 Fabia.