Mr A Lawrence Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Nipped out today. This happened. Then this happened. Then this happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srad34 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Arse biscuits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Andy the tyre man who can't change his tyre. In all seriousness, that looks to be a bit of a gutter. What happens next? Hammer socket onto the duff wheel to get it changed? Then order a replacement key from Jaguar? overrun and EssDeeWon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omegod Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 They make those sockets from a very rare type of cheese you know ! billyboy406v6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 That sucks, it shouldn't have been that way! Their the worse kinds of ftp too, you have the part in your hand to fix it... And it breaks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardthestag Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 EEzee, u need 2 fone http://autoshite.com/topic/14243-ideas-welcomed-to-get-these-locking-wheel-nuts-off/?p=1125692 sorry about FTP but couldnt resist AlabamaShrimp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordonbennet Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 TBH thats a shit design of locker, those lug tapers couldn't have been designed to split the socket open better if they tried. Mustardmitt the taper and thread on my lockers are always well lubed, fnarr fnarr and, they only get firmly nipped up not anywhere near as tight as the normal wheelbolts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skizzer Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 What is it with JLR and shit wheel bolts? It took half a day's swearing to get the front wheels off my Disco too. I JUST WANT REGULAR BOLTS THAT UNDO WITH A SOCKET. It really shouldn't be that hard, should it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omegod Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Tyre fitters putting the lockers on with a windy gun is usually the problem, they should only be nipped up, then again Andy would know that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckbuckbuckie Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 I honestly haven't heard of anyone having their wheels nicked... I have heard dozens of stories like this of monumental hassle and ball ache caused by locking wheel nuts though. barefoot, Mr A Lawrence and Barry Cade 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr A Lawrence Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 To be honest I've not had the wheels off the front in the 2 years I've owned the car so maybe they're stuck on and using the shit wheelbrace has ended them. Where I used to work, if you were seen using an air gun on a locker, on or off it was a sacking offence. xtriple 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 When I was fitting the wheels to the vectra last week I did wonder why anybody uses locking nuts nowadays as wheel theft is'nt as common as it once was. However, knowing the luck I have, if I did'nt refit them no doubt some theiving bastard would leave the car on railway sleepers. Mr A Lawrence 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtriple Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 The wheels on the Bentley sell for over 2 grand a set! Well, I say sell, that's what Flying Spares advertise them for (second hand) and seem to get often enough. But it has a weird locking centre cap with two keys and you remove the first lock and there's another underneath it! It also has left hand threaded wheel nuts on the lhs so I reckon when/if they get nicked I'll end up with two wheels left on that side as no bugger knows what a left handed thread is anymore. Mr A Lawrence, DeeJay and gordonbennet 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twosmoke300 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 I've just put 5 brand spankers wheels and Michelin tyres on my Landy and seriously thinking about locking nuts . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pillock Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 You're probably more likely to get the wheels nicked for the tyres, they cost more! Set of original alloys for any mainstream car, perhaps £50. Set of new tyres is four times that min. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cort1977 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Nicking wheels off full size trucks and suvs is still big business* here. Neighbours often wake up to a truck without its 22" alloys and tailgate. Wheel locks don't seem to help either, god knows how they do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVee8 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Andy these are the locking wheel nuts that came off my S-type. A code runs around the lock key:-McGARD 4.664.000 or A66A.000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVee8 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Nipped out today. See above for the locking set that came from my Jag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Snipes Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 They're not Genuine JLR. Must have been swapped over at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dome Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Andy, I might have a set of my old S-Type in the garage, if you want I can dig them out for you to see if they're any good? Mr A Lawrence 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaughant Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Andy these are the locking wheel nuts that came off my S-type. CIMG0770.JPGCIMG0771.JPGCIMG0773.JPGCIMG0774.JPGCIMG0775.JPGCIMG0776.JPGCIMG0777.JPGCIMG0778.JPG A code runs around the lock key:-McGARD 4.664.000 or A66A.000.They are, or they certainly look like, ford locking wheel nuts I think (most likely as a lot of bits on the s-type are ford). They're exactly like the ones on my ka that have a little ford brochure with them. I had a guy turn up at my garage once trying to get me to take the lockers off but despite being a nice bloke he slipped up and said he'd taken it to three other places who'd turned the work down plus he wanted no damage to the alloys. I declined and asked another guy I knew if he wanted the work as he was always up for crappy jobs but even he said their a total nightmare. That was an x-type though. The gun is deffo the cause though, I ended up having to cut an alloy off my ML because of this very reason. It actually worked out cheaper to buy a 2nd hand wheel with OK tyre than any other method. Plus I'd wasted a whole day trying various high quality drills etc, hammering on smaller sockets, hammer and chisel, nothing would budge it. After the wheel was removed I had visions of bad threads in the hub, needing re threading,massive Stilson wrench etc yet the stub came off finger tight and new wheel bolts screwed straight back in. Proceeded to remove all other lockers and throw them away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pillock Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Those ones with the wiggly line around are 100% identical to the ones on my old Mondeo. Ford deffo used them, although they won't have been made specifically for Ford by McGuard so I bet they hawked them around every manufacturer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernMonkey Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 They're also factory fit on Volvos....the dealers normally have a master key set to remove them. If I remember correctly, there's only around a dozen or so patterns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garbaldy Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 I honestly haven't heard of anyone having their wheels nicked... I have heard dozens of stories like this of monumental hassle and ball ache caused by locking wheel nuts though.Neither have I but a quick look shows these so I guess it's still a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 I bet every one of these cars had locking bolts, like many security features they are a massive inconvenience to the lawful owners but a very minor inconvenience for scrotes. Barry Cade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Snipes Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Those ones with the wiggly line around are 100% identical to the ones on my old Mondeo. Ford deffo used them, although they won't have been made specifically for Ford by McGuard so I bet they hawked them around every manufacturer.Ford do use McGuard, as do several manufacturers but not JLR. I'm not counting X-Types which probably do now I think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messerschmitt owner Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Those ones with the wiggly line around are 100% identical to the ones on my old Mondeo. Ford deffo used them, although they won't have been made specifically for Ford by McGuard so I bet they hawked them around every manufacturer.exactly the same as the ones on my Merc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colino Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 The Jaguar nuts are absolutely shocking, just like the vast array of under designed/specified bits they use all over the cars. Best fix (as even the ordinary nuts get water in between the chrome and the nut and are waiting to spite you on a cold and wet, windy night when you have a puncture) is to get them all off and replace them with better manufactured Toyota ones. I'm pretty sure I was told when I got my first ones that they were off the Lexus, but a friend changed his a few months ago and the bag mentioned just about every Toyota you could think off, including the Aygo. Difference is they are a 21mm head and you'll need to get a different wrench to sit in the boot, good news as you can launch that spindly, pressed metal tube that Jaguar supply with their prestige cars into the skip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr A Lawrence Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 Andy these are the locking wheel nuts that came off my S-type. CIMG0770.JPGCIMG0771.JPGCIMG0773.JPGCIMG0774.JPGCIMG0775.JPGCIMG0776.JPGCIMG0777.JPGCIMG0778.JPG A code runs around the lock key:-McGARD 4.664.000 or A66A.000.Their the wrong type, might be X type. These are the S type er....type. Thanks anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr A Lawrence Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 Andy, I might have a set of my old S-Type in the garage, if you want I can dig them out for you to see if they're any good?That'd be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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