4wheeledstool Posted May 4, 2019 Author Share Posted May 4, 2019 Front part of the inner arch lip now in position - was difficult to get it somewhere near the right place on this side due to the lack of any remains of the original one. The front part of the outer arch then went on - seen here after half grinding the welds back so that I can see where any little gaps are that need hitting with the sparkly stick. Finished the session by making a start fettling the rear part of the outer arch to get a good fit. (This one is a worse pressing than the nearside one was. ) Hopefully more tomorrow! danthecapriman, Amishtat, richardthestag and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4wheeledstool Posted May 5, 2019 Author Share Posted May 5, 2019 Lots of time spent on this today, but not a right lot achieved. Replaced a section of wheel tub + inner arch lip. It took a while, but so far a perfect fit with the outer arch. Next up a load of rusty bits were cut out of the back of the wheel tub, inner rear quarter bottom and outer rear quarter bottom.. The viable metal left behind was kind of flapping in the breeze, so a multitude of small and fiddly repairs were done to the wheel tub/inner rear quarter to tie it all together, and give me something to weld to when it comes to replacing the outboard section of the back of the wheel tub. (Phew!) Zinc rich primer then splashed around before teatime. Burnside, vulgalour, Skizzer and 15 others 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4wheeledstool Posted May 6, 2019 Author Share Posted May 6, 2019 After a bit of time weighing up the job this morning, I came to the conclusion that the fuel filler part of the rear quarter would need repairing before anything else could be done. Started the session looking like this. The rusty metal of the outboard side of the tub above the fuel filler was then cut right back before cracking on with the fuel filler aperture itself. A couple of hours later, I was pleased to be looking at this. I'll clean up and paint both sides of the fuel filler, then I can get on with replacing the rear outboard wheel tub + inner arch lip. Once this arch/tub is completed, the plan is to weld the outer rear valance on before it goes up on the spit. Feels like I'm getting through it now. mat_the_cat, RayMK, Tickman and 17 others 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skizzer Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Fantastic work as always. That filler aperture and the inner wing were really quite frilly, weren’t they? Cavcraft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulscavalier Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Bit of a grot trap, the mk3 isn't much better unless you keep it clean in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4wheeledstool Posted May 6, 2019 Author Share Posted May 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Skizzer said: Fantastic work as always. That filler aperture and the inner wing were really quite frilly, weren’t they? Cheers! Pretty frilly - Its certainly the frilliest heap I've ever attempted to un-fuck. 3 hours ago, paulscavalier said: Bit of a grot trap, the mk3 isn't much better unless you keep it clean in there The design is poor - I hope to come up with a better solution to keep water out of the joint between the inner and outer parts of the fuel filler aperture. Dick Longbridge, Burnside and RobT 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulplom Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Top grafting here like 4wheeledstool 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulscavalier Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 I have been fortunate to have owned the same mk3 for 19 years and have always kept it clean under the rear arches so hopefully have halted or slowed any corrosion down. I look forward to seeing any ideas you can come up with on yours. Cavcraft and 4wheeledstool 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4wheeledstool Posted May 8, 2019 Author Share Posted May 8, 2019 Not been much time available the last couple of days just enough to clean back to metal both sides of the fuel filler hole, treat with Hydrate 80, then zinc prime it. I'm just weighing up wether to rebuild the missing structure on the car, or make it off the car then weld in when completed - both options have their pros and cons. When I left the unit today leaving the outer panel clamped on, it struck me that although not completed by any stretch of the imagination, that this is the most complete this wheel arch has looked for a fair while. Skizzer, RobT, Scruffy Bodger and 19 others 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Foxhake Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 One of the best threads on here. Always watching. Thanks for keeping us updated. Cavcraft and 4wheeledstool 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4wheeledstool Posted May 11, 2019 Author Share Posted May 11, 2019 Got a few hours on this over the last couple of days - progress is progress! The rearmost part of the top of the tub was cobbled together off the car, seen here part way through fabrication. This was then welded into position (awkward!), allowing a second piece to be persuaded into a shape that fits the gap that remains, whilst leaving something in the right sort of area to attach the inner arch lip to. Once whittled down with a flap disc to fit, this was welded in. Once I've finished cleaning back the welds, I'm good to complete the bottom of the back of the wheel tub + get the inner arch lip on there - the most difficult part of this corner is done now. paulscavalier, Dick Longbridge, scdan4 and 15 others 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Immense work, as ever. Those rear arches were about 197% filler iirc, in fact they'd almost ballooned out they were that bad. Loving how this is taking shape. Skizzer and richardthestag 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardthestag Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 impressive work, loving this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4wheeledstool Posted May 12, 2019 Author Share Posted May 12, 2019 21 hours ago, Cavcraft said: Immense work, as ever. Those rear arches were about 197% filler iirc, in fact they'd almost ballooned out they were that bad. Loving how this is taking shape. Cheers! Structural filler kept it off the bridge - hopefully it'll not need too much of the stuff trowelling back on before it gets painted. 20 hours ago, richardthestag said: impressive work, loving this thread Thank you kindly! My arthritis got the better of me today, but still got a little bit done. Went round all the recent welds with a LED torch, and any pinholes were addressed with the sparkly stick. Once that was done, I replaced the bottom of the inner rear quarter - the corner piece to finish the gap left between this and the inner rear valance is under construction and will be stuck in next time. Ian_Fearn, Skizzer, RayMK and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4wheeledstool Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 The weather has been too good of late to spend in a dusty lock up, so I've given it a miss the last couple of days. I gave it a cheeky hour or so on the way home from work today and got a couple more small jobs done. The missing offside inner rear corner I made at the weekend went on first. Then the lower part of the outboard section of the wheel tub was fashioned and welded in before I went home. Next on the list is to get the rear half of the inner arch lip on there - probably be at the weekend now. Burnside, Brodders, The Moog and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amishtat Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Nice job, really enjoying watching this come together 4wheeledstool 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4wheeledstool Posted May 18, 2019 Author Share Posted May 18, 2019 Not had any spare time until today, and sadly only a couple of hours were available. (Was hoping to be on it all day!) A bit of metal wrangling to replace the missing inner arch lip took place. (The marker pen shading + lines help me remove metal in the right places) Welding it in. (This is the rear portion) And finally the completed inner arch lip. I'm hoping to get the outer on tomorrow.(unless foiled by other stuff like today) Skizzer, scdan4, uk_senator and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skizzer Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 Love it. Great work. You may think it’s going slowly but it’s light speed compared with any of my projects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4wheeledstool Posted May 19, 2019 Author Share Posted May 19, 2019 22 hours ago, Skizzer said: Love it. Great work. You may think it’s going slowly but it’s light speed compared with any of my projects. Many thanks! Like a good book, once I get stuck in, its difficult to leave it alone! I didn't get down to the shed until midday, but got straight on with trimming + fettling. Let the tacking commence Welds dressed back and pinholes attended to. The rear quarter panel was a little distorted from when the bodge repairs were done, but its ended up pretty reasonable. It does require a little fettling with a hammer and dolly in two small spots though. Hopefully I can get that lower rear valance and rear quarter bottom on this week, then I can finally try out my rollover spit. Mike D, MorrisItalSLX, uk_senator and 16 others 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4wheeledstool Posted May 20, 2019 Author Share Posted May 20, 2019 Stopped off at the shed on the way home today, and got the lower rear quarter bottom on. Just needs to be checked for pin holes, then I can get the lower rear valance fettled up and on. Little by little Its becoming un-fucked. danthecapriman, uk_senator, Ian_Fearn and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4wheeledstool Posted May 23, 2019 Author Share Posted May 23, 2019 Didn't think I was gonna get back on this until the weekend, but managed to snaffle a couple of hours on it this evening. Rear valance fettled up, zinc primed on the back, and tacked on. Also plug welded the valance to the lower rear quarters. I'll get it fully welded next time, hunger got the better of me this evening. danthecapriman, Burnside, The Moog and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4wheeledstool Posted May 25, 2019 Author Share Posted May 25, 2019 Valance now welded, tidied up and zinc primed. With that done, the driver's side rear door came off so I could sort out the gap between the arch repair panel and the new outer sill. I'm gonna finish off the welding on the front part of the wheel arch + top of the sill next, then hopefully get the spit assembled on Monday. I think I may have overestimated the amount of welding gas required - I've used about 15% of it so far! Scruffy Bodger, Brodders, Skizzer and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Longbridge Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Great to see the mk2 starting to look less ginger now. Daft thing is, I thought it looked reasonably tidy for a mk2. I do wonder what sort of state the other remaining mk2’s look like underneath, regardless of shiny paintwork... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timewaster Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Looking like the ones I used to see in the body shop when I worked at a Vauxhall dealer. Can't understand why mk2s aren't held in higher regard. Brilliant cars, everyone must have encountered them at some time and thirty years out of production. No blue oval I guess. Scruffy Bodger and Dick Longbridge 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Longbridge Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 ^ They're an infinitely better car than the equivalent escRot at the time, without doubt. I got hold of a couple and they were brilliant to drive , and lively to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4wheeledstool Posted May 27, 2019 Author Share Posted May 27, 2019 23 hours ago, Dick Longbridge said: Great to see the mk2 starting to look less ginger now. Daft thing is, I thought it looked reasonably tidy for a mk2. I do wonder what sort of state the other remaining mk2’s look like underneath, regardless of shiny paintwork... I wouldn't be surprised if even the nicest looking original ones were hiding a fair amount of pox. 22 hours ago, Timewaster said: Looking like the ones I used to see in the body shop when I worked at a Vauxhall dealer. Can't understand why mk2s aren't held in higher regard. Brilliant cars, everyone must have encountered them at some time and thirty years out of production. No blue oval I guess. I suspect that they may become more desirable in years to come - most likely when I don't own it any more! 21 hours ago, Dick Longbridge said: ^ They're an infinitely better car than the equivalent escRot at the time, without doubt. I got hold of a couple and they were brilliant to drive , and lively to boot. I'm considering using it as my daily when it's finished - when it was in use it was perfectly good transportation. The only thing that would put me off is having to watch it slowly go brown again! Offside sill now finished off The spit is now assembled, hopefully I'll get some bracketry made up and get it all attached this afternoon. RayMK, stonedagain, Burnside and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4wheeledstool Posted May 27, 2019 Author Share Posted May 27, 2019 Bracketry now completed - used a bit of box section at the front in the bumper bracket holes. Doubled up some 2mm plate for the rear - again using the bumper mount holes. Everything was then aligned and tightened before starting to wind it up. Seen here with the axle stands removed, and a bit of a tilt on. Next time, I'll wind it up enough to roll it right on its side - hunger ended the session again. Skizzer, RayMK, Scruffy Bodger and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4wheeledstool Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 I've only wound it up a few inches so far - I may need to drop it back onto the axle stands so I can go up a notch on the pivot points. Even so, it made plug welding the bottom of the rear valance easier. Next on the to do list is to make up a jig to ensure that the spring plates go on in the correct place once the chassis rails have been repaired. After that comes the utter joy of cleaning all the sealant, paint and rust off the underside so it can be repaired/repainted + resealed. danthecapriman, uk_senator, Amishtat and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4wheeledstool Posted June 1, 2019 Author Share Posted June 1, 2019 Not much time on this recently, but I came up with this from a few bits of scrap. It bolts in tightly to the rear beam mounting point, and accurately indicates where the centre of the spring plate should be. As an added bonus, when the bend is redone the other way, it works for the other side too. scdan4, danthecapriman, uk_senator and 8 others 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4wheeledstool Posted June 2, 2019 Author Share Posted June 2, 2019 Stole a bit of shed time this afternoon - the nearside spring plate now resides in the pile of jettisoned junk by the door. Once all the rotten metal was cut out, a piece was fashioned to repair the inner section of the leg. And that's as far as I got today. New spring plates should be here by next weekend, so theres plenty of time to ensure there is some decent metal to weld them to. M'coli, scdan4, uk_senator and 12 others 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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