busmansholiday Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 On 3/4/2022 at 7:52 PM, quicksilver said: Not one but two ERFs were about this week. I thought that was @Six-cylinder's JCB on the yellow one MAN cabbed ones, after the takeover and just before they closed them down. Don't count as ERFs in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Estate Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 On 3/2/2022 at 10:25 AM, Datsuncog said: Bit late to the Magirus Deutz love-in, but here's a beauty I snapped at a tractor rally at Ballymena Showgrounds all the way back in 2010. I wouldn't like to be dailying it, at today's fuel prices... Thats got "fuck off out of my way" written all over it. Bonus points for having a badge with "anus" on it. Datsuncog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty2006 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 On 3/6/2022 at 8:24 PM, busmansholiday said: MAN cabbed ones, after the takeover and just before they closed them down. Don't count as ERFs in my book. Yes when MAN bought out ERF they just stuck ERF badges over the MAN badges for shits n giggles, then they closed it down and the ECT was no more. I remember the ERFs had the M11 Cummins Celect in it, but the MAN had its own inline six (D08? Or D28 can’t remember). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedracer Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 On 3/6/2022 at 2:33 AM, 17-Coffees said: Seeing how you know *who* I'm on about... All I'll say is seeing an Original coloured vehicle next to an new really makes you see what a downgrade it is. Wonder how long Pollock will be allowed to buy big cabbed well equipped trucks and have a flambouyant livery, days numbered I'd say. Saw one of yours in a trucks at Lymm YouTube vid, wasn't impressed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Estate Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Looks good. Still cheap. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/194908679575?hash=item2d61766d97:g:tQ0AAOSwM1liK6CG Crackers, Vantman, Dyslexic Viking and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willswitchengage Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 On 3/8/2022 at 9:50 AM, sutty2006 said: Yes when MAN bought out ERF they just stuck ERF badges over the MAN badges for shits n giggles, then they closed it down and the ECT was no more. I remember the ERFs had the M11 Cummins Celect in it, but the MAN had its own inline six (D08? Or D28 can’t remember). I think part of the logic there was fishing for the massive MoD deal for 10,000 military trucks which was being tendered at the time. Pretended it's a British brand or they're made in the UK or something to sweeten the deal. But yes I seem to remember the only difference in the end was that they offered the ISMe as an engine option, just like Foden did in its dieing days. I guess it was the last of the British/American trucks where the engine would be 'specced' by a buyer as opposed to now where is comes just as a Mercedes truck with a Mercedes engine etc. Over in the US I think you still pick whether you get a Cummins, Cat, Detroit engine etc. warch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty2006 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Yes long gone are the days of spec’ ing a truck with different parts from different manufacturers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyslexic Viking Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 This is also the case with DAF if I'm not wrong, they use Paccar engines that are also available in Peterbilt and Kenworth trucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyslexic Viking Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 I had one about Tatra here before but has Finnish Sisu ever been mentioned here? Will assume that they are quite unknown outside Scandinavia and are probably one of Europe's smallest truck manufacturers they have also made buses. Apart from some for military use, the only model they now offer is the Polar (bellow), which has a cab and engine from Mercedes and is/was available with a Mercedes automatic transmission or a manual unsynchronized Eton Fuller gearbox, which according to info from 2014 was chosen by half of the customers. crad, sutty2006, worldofceri and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty2006 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Dyslexic Viking said: This is also the case with DAF if I'm not wrong, they use Paccar engines that are also available in Peterbilt and Kenworth trucks. I think I was wrong. Detroit is just a part of Daimler. The truck engines are Mercedes own from what I can find. But there are a lot of Daimler Benz shared parts with freightliner trucks. Dyslexic Viking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyslexic Viking Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 In Norway, we actually have 2 who make books about old Norwegian trucks and every book they are a few hundred pages and cover the history of each truck in them. They have released several of these and I have 3 of them. The reason I found them now was to check if one of these is still alive and it is! This is a 1992 Renault Magnum that went in long-distance transport down the continent and therefore only has 2 axles (3 are common here) so this passed 1million kilometer before it was 10 years so the mileage must now be very high. It was taken off the road last year but we can hope that someone will take care of it. LightBulbFun and willswitchengage 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willswitchengage Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Dyslexic Viking said: This is also the case with DAF if I'm not wrong, they use Paccar engines that are also available in Peterbilt and Kenworth trucks. Yep the USA is is slowly going the European way. I think Paccar realised since it'd spent £billions developing European market engines it'd be a good idea to modify their emissions for EPA compliance and sell them over there too. Freightliner mainly sells its own Detroit engines (both are owned by Daimler) and Navistar and Volvo naturally have their own engine choices too. I guess Cummins and Cat have dwindling market shares these days. You may be right that Detroit engines are just rebadged MB engines days... seems silly not too. The small 1litre/cylinder MB engines have been used in Freightliner trucks for decades. Dyslexic Viking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyslexic Viking Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, willswitchengage said: Yep the USA is is slowly going the European way. I think Paccar realised since it'd spent £billions developing European market engines it'd be a good idea to modify their emissions for EPA compliance and sell them over there too. Freightliner mainly sells its own Detroit engines (both are owned by Daimler) and Navistar and Volvo naturally have their own engine choices too. I guess Cummins and Cat have dwindling market shares these days. You may be right that Detroit engines are just rebadged MB engines days... seems silly not too. The small 1litre/cylinder MB engines have been used in Freightliner trucks for decades. The American truck industry has seemed very old-fashioned compared to Europe, so Cummings engines and manual unsynchronized gearboxes will probably live for a while longer, I think. And Cummings has a very good reputation and has not CAT given up on road engines due to emissions? I think I read or heard it somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyslexic Viking Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Something I want to share. On youtube now on several channels, there are documentaries called deadliest journyes, deadliest roads and similar they are of the same series. And for anyone with an interest in trucks, these are interesting. Post a small selection and is much more. This old Bedford has been working with the same family since 1976 (this was filmed around 5 to 6 years ago) in Zambia and is completely worn out and is driven by an almost blind man. There are also surprisingly many old American trucks in Africa now. MAN 8x8 military trucks working in Congo Old French Berliet trucks in Mali ZIL 130 in Guinea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willswitchengage Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 They're always behind, but catching up. For fleets over there Mercedes's automated manual is popular and Paccar and Volvo offer their own too. Most truck drivers probably work for a fleet these days as opposed to being an owner driver so I guess they just get what they're given. Dyslexic Viking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martc Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Bermondsey Street SE1, 1988. rml2345, Dyslexic Viking and Vantman 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quicksilver Posted March 14, 2022 Author Share Posted March 14, 2022 A very rare sighting of a Hino 700 today, only the third I've seen in two years. Thought that would be the spot of the week but I ended on a high with my very last spot - I almost missed it as I'd already crossed the road but managed to get back across to snap one of the last proper ERFs. Vantman, 5speedracer, willswitchengage and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierraman Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Weren’t the Hino trucks licence built in Eire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quicksilver Posted March 15, 2022 Author Share Posted March 15, 2022 18 minutes ago, sierraman said: Weren’t the Hino trucks licence built in Eire? Yes, shipped CKD from Japan and assembled by Harris Assemblers of Dublin. Very popular in Ireland, less so in the UK, and discontinued in 2014 as Hino didn't have a Euro 6 engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobblers Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 I always thought they ran Cummins engines. I was wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsuncog Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 There were indeed many Hino trucks local to me in Northern Ireland during the 1980s and 90s - all the more visible as they looked quite different to most other trucks on the road. They usually seemed to be in heavier duty use - quarrying and construction, rather than freight logistics. Didn't realise they hadn't been so common in the rest of GB. It's been a long time since I've noticed one, though - the more modern 700s probably wouldn't cause me to look twice. Dyslexic Viking and LightBulbFun 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradders59 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 A schoolmate of mine was one of many sons in a family (Davidsons)that ran a fleet of Hino trucks for tipper work. They lived just opposite the old Rolls Royce / Fisher bodies factory in Dundonald, so if your old enough you might remember seeing the trucks parked there. In fact, for all I know, they might still be operating from there. I spent 20 years working for a concrete flooring company - Milbank floors, now known as Milbank concrete - a bunch of utter cunts but thats an aside. The sister company was Milbank Trucks whose MD was( a really decent bloke) - Dave Watson. When the whole thing fell on its arse in 08/09 he bought out the remains of the transport business and renamed it David Watson Transport. He has now been built it up into a very successful business, with a very impressive fleet of over 100 mainly Hiab type trucks. Nice to see the good guys do win sometimes. David Watson Transport | Specialists Transport & Lifting Services : David Watson Transport (dw-transport.co.uk) Datsuncog and Vantman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martc Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Vauxhall, Liverpool, 1987. Cargo photo bomb! Leyland Worldmaster, High Jetter and Dyslexic Viking 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR SCRUFF Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 On 3/6/2022 at 8:24 PM, busmansholiday said: MAN cabbed ones, after the takeover and just before they closed them down. Don't count as ERFs in my book. We had one and it was a brilliant motor for us, even if the only ERF bits were the badges and the seat trim. Only a four wheel 18 tonner but was specced to be a drawbar so had a Cummins 385 with jake, ZF 16 speed manual with comfort shift. Maybe not a real ERF but it sounded like one and didn't smell like a Reliant inside if you left it parked in a rainstorm. sutty2006 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quicksilver Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 On 3/15/2022 at 2:28 PM, Bradders59 said: A schoolmate of mine was one of many sons in a family (Davidsons)that ran a fleet of Hino trucks for tipper work. They lived just opposite the old Rolls Royce / Fisher bodies factory in Dundonald, so if your old enough you might remember seeing the trucks parked there. In fact, for all I know, they might still be operating from there. I spent 20 years working for a concrete flooring company - Milbank floors, now known as Milbank concrete - a bunch of utter cunts but thats an aside. The sister company was Milbank Trucks whose MD was( a really decent bloke) - Dave Watson. When the whole thing fell on its arse in 08/09 he bought out the remains of the transport business and renamed it David Watson Transport. He has now been built it up into a very successful business, with a very impressive fleet of over 100 mainly Hiab type trucks. Nice to see the good guys do win sometimes. David Watson Transport | Specialists Transport & Lifting Services : David Watson Transport (dw-transport.co.uk) I see a lot of David Watson trucks round here - smart fleet all named after Greek or Roman legends and the drivers seem a good bunch who often flash and wave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty2006 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 4 hours ago, MR SCRUFF said: We had one and it was a brilliant motor for us, even if the only ERF bits were the badges and the seat trim. Only a four wheel 18 tonner but was specced to be a drawbar so had a Cummins 385 with jake, ZF 16 speed manual with comfort shift. Maybe not a real ERF but it sounded like one and didn't smell like a Reliant inside if you left it parked in a rainstorm. Ahhh comfort shift! Simply lovely. Manual with a thumb operated clutch. Those were the days! MR SCRUFF and Vantman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruff Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Picked this up today for a good friend of mine. Runs well, has been stood since covid began so could do with a once over and a good run with some weight on to scrub the brakes up. cobblers, bigstraight6, rml2345 and 11 others 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernaut Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Scruff! I wondered where you, your low loader and your interesting selection of cargoes had gone. scruff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty2006 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Not an ex Moss & Lovatt ERF by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruff Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 It was Britvic before it went on the fairgrounds I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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