Dave_Q Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Hi all, In a manouevre inspired by Cavcraft purchasing dept: 2 wheel division, I've just bought a shit old moped for <£50. Naturally it's in bits and has no V5 or number plate, or any clue what the number plate was. No it's (probably) not stolen. All I have to go on is the VIN/chassis number which is ZAPC1900000029682. It's a Piaggio Typhoon 50 of around 96-03 vintage. Any ideas on how to find out what the reg is from the VIN so I can send off a V62? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lord Sward Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 HPI it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omegod Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I think a trade HPI can do it , I can't sadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy18s Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Try a Piaggio dealer. Should be able to help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexg Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 You have a PM Dave_Q and messerschmitt owner 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 d701swl hth DSdriver, messerschmitt owner, barefoot and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_Rocket Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 If Alex hasn't just sent it to you, I can PM you it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Q Posted September 16, 2016 Author Share Posted September 16, 2016 If Alex hasn't just sent it to you, I can PM you it. Alex has indeed come up with the goods. Thank you Alex, and thank you Internet. Alexg, Rusty_Rocket and messerschmitt owner 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgeRover Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Anybody fancy running the frame numbers from a couple of my 70s and 80s trials bikes to see if they can do better than the dvla finding the reg numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vin Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 How does all this work then?? My Francis Lombardi is a UK car, but has no paperwork or numberplates. From the VIN, I have a letter from Fiat UK telling me it was built in October 1968, but they have no idea what the reg would have been... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_Rocket Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Ultimately, all information comes from the DVLA and any system you use to get a VRN or VIN will refer back to the same source. Stuff that has been 'off the record' for many years generally comes back as unrecognised; your only option then is to jump through the DVLA hoops, which is becoming increasingly difficult without some decent evidence of a vehicle's past history.I have a relatively recent Suzuki bike (1984) that has no number plate and although the VIN is perfectly legible, Swansea will not issue the number and it will need to be re-registered. Vin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Q Posted September 16, 2016 Author Share Posted September 16, 2016 In this case the bike is fairly new so did show up. Anything that hasn't been taxed since before DVLA computerisation (80s? 90s?) will be not found, and therefore pretty much non-existent in the eyes of the doovla. Vin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vin Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 It will be a while before the Lombardi hits the road again. I know I should* be able to get it re-registered with the DVLA when the time comes, with the history and paperwork I do have, but I was just curious as to what you'd been able to sort out in the case of Dave Q. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Q Posted September 16, 2016 Author Share Posted September 16, 2016 Vin: if you can't find any evidence of what the old reg was then you'll need to re-register, but you should get an age related plate with the dating letter. In my case Alex has found me the reg, and the fact it is a previous Cat C write-off. Luckily it's not possible to reduce the bikes value to less than I paid, so that doesn't really matter. I will make sure it runs etc then fill in a V62 to (hopefully) get a logbook. Vin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgeRover Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Ultimately, all information comes from the DVLA and any system you use to get a VRN or VIN will refer back to the same source. Stuff that has been 'off the record' for many years generally comes back as unrecognised; your only option then is to jump through the DVLA hoops, which is becoming increasingly difficult without some decent evidence of a vehicle's past history.I have a relatively recent Suzuki bike (1984) that has no number plate and although the VIN is perfectly legible, Swansea will not issue the number and it will need to be re-registered.Have you spoken to Suzuki GB they might just might have a record of which dealer it was supplied to, Yamaha (and Kawasaki I think) can give a dealer a reg number from a frame number last one I checked that came up was an 88 PM me if you want as there are a few other things you can do if you are sure it's reg'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Interesting thread - I have an extra Honda NF75 that's complete, circa 1979, but came with nonumber plate, from a Poole motorcycle dealer for spares, originally. It's too good to break!The dealer could not assist, but it wasn't a Honda dealer mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 I would like to do this with my '70s David Brown and avoid a Q plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Q Posted September 17, 2016 Author Share Posted September 17, 2016 Generally you need something like an old log book to claim the original reg, but if you can get some sort of dating proof from either the manufacturer or a recognised owners club, you can re register on an age related plate. drum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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