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1 hour ago, SiC said:

Not a bad price probably?

My Clio cat is worth £450 as scrap. Dread to think what a OEM one is new. Sports cats are £250. 

As you might imagine, quite a few people are scrapping their cats and lobbing sports cats on. Or buying Clios, fresh MOT, scrapping the cat, decat pipe and then sell on the car as "modified for performance with decat". Amazingly people fall for it. 

Similar story with MX5s. I was speaking to a guy who breaks them today who said that the ones from some 1.8 cars are worth £500+! As the avensis is also a Japanese car from the same era, with a similarly sized engine, it may be a similar story. Could be worth checking, as if that’s case, it might not be such a bad price, and it could potentially last another 260,000 miles

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7 hours ago, SiC said:

If the cat isn't empty, it might go a fair way back to paying for a new one as scrap.

Forgive me - but why would it be empty? 

I don’t like the implication that I would have gutted it (on an old and feeble heap especially) and I’m confident you wouldn’t suggest that either. 

No thieves I’ve ever heard of steal them, empty them then carefully replace them either. 

So excuse my ignorance but I don’t follow. My understanding is it’s likely to be FULL/BLOCKED not empty. Sorry if that’s wrong. 

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I think he was suggesting it may have been "decatted" by a previous owner for performance. I'm told you can buy empty cat shells which can then be fitted in place of the real thing, so for a visual inspection at an MoT it will appear to be ok.

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1 hour ago, BorniteIdentity said:

Forgive me - but why would it be empty? 

I don’t like the implication that I would have gutted it (on an old and feeble heap especially) and I’m confident you wouldn’t suggest that either. 

No thieves I’ve ever heard of steal them, empty them then carefully replace them either. 

So excuse my ignorance but I don’t follow. My understanding is it’s likely to be FULL/BLOCKED not empty. Sorry if that’s wrong. 

The ceramic honeycomb innards can collapse and fall out on their own bit by bit, the one on my Lupo did.

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1 minute ago, cobblers said:

The ceramic honeycomb innards can collapse and fall out on their own bit by bit, the one on my Lupo did.

Right - thanks man. It didn’t make sense to an old doofus like me as I knew SiC wouldn’t be having a pop, but I thought they just clogged up - not broke down. 

Is there much of an export market atm? One option is to bail, not because a car wants a piece of exhaust and some copper pipe - but because I’ve been offered car on long term loan completely FOC. It would help divert funds into the Mini and my house. The last old Yoda I sold ended up going East via Germany and made extremely good money. 

Just wondered if, with Covid, if that market has dried up atm. 

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The cat on my C4 was empty - it appeared to be original, it had just (presumably) broken up over the life of the car.  I don't think anyone is going to decat a 1.6-litre C4 for "performance".

Interestingly the CO reading was only just over the limit even with effectively no cat in the system at all.

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3 hours ago, BorniteIdentity said:

Right - thanks man. It didn’t make sense to an old doofus like me as I knew SiC wouldn’t be having a pop, but I thought they just clogged up - not broke down. 

They do clog up but they also do breakdown and also become contaminated (excessively rich running/oil burning/etc). Could well be that yours is failing as the expensive, precious honeycomb is scattered across miles of road. 

Having a pop? Well it looks like you are running illegal tints on it... 😒

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21 minutes ago, SiC said:

Having a pop? 

With the greatest of respects, it's becoming a bit of a theme isn't it?  You made a remark about an empty cat, straight after a comment on the tints - two weeks after...

On 8/17/2020 at 3:28 PM, SiC said:

So basically if it wasn't for Boris and his MOT extension, you'd be a bit fucked car wise?

For which you sort of stood down so I let it go. I'm a pacifist.

I'm not sure about the tints.  I gave it to someone to do 5 or 6 years ago.  I gave him the keys and said "privacy glass in the back please" (because there is NO BOOT, nothing to do with me being a PIMP, drugs baron or whatever) and asked him to "tint the front as he would recommend".  I paid him £200.  I don't have a light meter, and it's never crossed my mind.  

I must have upset you at some stage.  Perhaps when it at FotU last year when I said how lovely your car was, or at the FoD when I said to your wife what a great choice you have in cars.  

Whatever.  I'm glad you enjoy looking down your nose at me, firing the odd snide remark.  Far be it from me to spoil your sport.  

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33 minutes ago, BorniteIdentity said:

Whatever.  I'm glad you enjoy looking down your nose at me, firing the odd snide remark.  Far be it from me to spoil your sport.  

You're reading too much into my remarks and thinking I'm trying to have a go in a malicious way. Probably doesn't work as well in text as I can't portray the cheeky wry smile that I would naturally do in person and get away with it. 

Cat remark wasn't a pop, just something to try helping you with - they're worth a lot and if there is material left it can help repay getting it on the road. But there is a chance there isn't any left, so can't bank on it.

Tints? I was surprised that you had them so dark, as I wouldn't have thought the darked out front was your kinda thing. But then also wasn't sure if it was just the light/picture too. Can't say I'm bothered at all, I guess it broke my mental model of you that everyone builds up of one and other, which surprised me.

MOT thing? Just some jovial banter. I know of course you're not really fucked and I wouldn't have said that if I knew you were - at least phrased in that way. A man of your means would simply go down to the nearest hire car place and pick up a temporary replacement until the fleet was back on the road. 

I like you a lot, you're a nice guy and I have zero beef against you. 🤗

Don't feel singled out, I have this sort of light hearted banter with all my friends. Either give it back/play along with counter banter or just ignore me. 

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21 minutes ago, wuvvum said:

Maybe his eyes are still hurting from that shirt and it's making him hold a grudge?  :P

Funnily enough I was chatting to my wife the other day about our local radio service - Sam FM. It owned by Bauer Media and all the other local radio stations seemed to have been absorbed into "Greatest Hits". The DJs on GH seem to be some of the old guard I remember from Radio 1 like Mark Radcliffe and Simon Mayo. 

Anyway I was mentioning that @BorniteIdentity was a radio DJ and I wondered if you were on that station too. "Who's he?", my wife asked. "The guy in that bright shirt when we went to FoTU and that field after", I responded. Surprised she remarked, "Is he? That's pretty cool!".

You must have left a indelible (good) mark in my wife's memory! 😄

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5 hours ago, SiC said:

Funnily enough I was chatting to my wife the other day about our local radio service - Sam FM.

It will be "Hits Radio" by January.



It's a funny old job.  I actually get more enjoyment out of working with a handful of our customers than I do being on air these days.  I guess 18 years of doing the same thing, whatever that may be, does that to a bloke.

Apologies if I misinterpreted your remarks. No hard feelings I hope.  


Back to shitheaps then - I've put up a F/S thread for the Granvia but have no idea what it's worth.  Spoke with my chum again at Japex who said it's almost certainly the camshaft sensor that's kippered, but it's time anyway.  No idea on price, so it might have to go on eBay as an auction with a view to being exported or bought by one of the many breakers.  A shame, but you can't save them all.

I can save the Avensis though, and will.  It seems faintly ridiculous to throw it away  only for it to end up in Mozambique... trundling on indefinitely having had the cat cut out and the fuelling tricked by an o2 sensor or two.   Part of me wonders whether it would pass anyway if it was white hot and went straight onto the ramps, but it deserves to be fixed and fixed it will be.

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9 hours ago, wuvvum said:

The cat on my C4 was empty - it appeared to be original, it had just (presumably) broken up over the life of the car.  I don't think anyone is going to decat a 1.6-litre C4 for "performance".

Interestingly the CO reading was only just over the limit even with effectively no cat in the system at all.

I think my Mondeo is at this stage (original cat) CO is always bang on the (idle?) limit at 0.30. But then the Mazda is also on it's original cat as far as I know and CO is virtually zero!

edit: but is that the non cat test?

I'm confusing myself. Not for the first time.

edit again - I had no idea but DVSA individually name cars in the 92-95 transition period for cats - and the exact requirements for that model: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/676700/in-service-exhaust-emission-standards-for-road-vehicles-19th-edition.pdf

Sorry for thread drift, Dan.

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OMG Modern. 

We’re clearing the decks atm. Granvia off to a guy who’s going to try and fix it. If it’s simple I might take it back, if there’s any doubt then it’s his problem! Fiat 500c likely to make way for an MPV. Avensis tentatively booked for repair but I’m still not completely sure. 

Have just picked this up. 



2007 Mercedes CL203. Owned by the mother ship who has decided to give up driving at the responsible and respectable age of 70. Long term I may buy it, but on the basis it was sat there doing nothing I’m now using it. 

It’s a great blend of old and modern tech. Great on the open road and with the blower 150bhp isn’t to be sniffed at! 

Pretty chuffed all told. 

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Going completely off subject, I quite like Greatest Hits Radio, always have it on in the car in a morning, Rossie plays some decent music. It’s just a pleasure not to have chart shit playing or tedious presenters that constantly bang on about how they can’t wait for it to be the weekend as if Monday to Friday holds absolutely no enjoyment for them. It gets my vote as they played Barry White ‘The Trouble with Me’ the other day and I haven’t heard that record for years. 

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Today's task was to start the Sierra for the first time in months.  I don't reckon it's turned a wheel since July?  Whenever I last used the trailer which it blocks in.  Jump Packs are shit aren't they?  I mean they really are.  £60 Clark thing and unless it's fully charged and starting something very smoll, you're lucky.  Fortunately I have a spare 12v battery lying around and some beefy jump leads, so we got started within 10 seconds of proper cranking.  Impressive.


All is not well elsewhere.  Since the rear screen was replaced, the bootlid itself fills with water.  Every time you open the boot it comes pissing out of the boot catch.  Fucksake.  I will ask my fitter mate WTF and see what he says.  Also, the inner rubber seal doesn't want to stay around the frame of the boot, so that needs some sort of appropriate adhesive.  Any ideas?

It's lovely seeing it with proper lights and a proper bumper eh?  But fucking hell it really does need to be undercover for the winter months.  I'm going to ask as many questions as I can of all the people I know, but if you have space for an old heap until the Spring both the car and I would be extremely grateful.  

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I never would have thought it would’ve hade such a difference, But that new rear bumper has transformed the Sierra! It looks even better now than it did before. Could the boot lid leak and dodgy rubber seal be linked, or am I just being thick?


i wish I could offer you somewhere to keep it, but unfortunately I don’t have the room at the minute. Hopefully you can find somewhere

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