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If it says bushes it must mean the rear "lollipop" bushes, these can be done in situ with some lube and brute force.

 

From my e30 days ISTR that it's difficult to get the outer balljoint split without damaging the dust boot so that's why I would do the bushes on the car.

The outer balljoints are ok if you go for either the "2 hammers" method or a balljoint splitter that pushes down.

 

fork splitters are what mullers the boots:)

 

rear bushes can indeed be done on the car- a junior hacksaw is useful for getting the metal parts of the old bush off the arm.

 

Ebay had new bushes already pressed into the lollipops for peanuts-so do that rather than fit new bushes to existing lollipops

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Cheapness! Good!

 

However, neither of us have any previous experience of old BMWs, so a more detailed explanation would be appreciated. :D

If just changing the rear bushes:

 

jack car at front wheel and remove wheel.

 

locate 2x bolts that hold the lollipop on and remove.

 

tap bush off, fit new bush tighten bolts

 

some pics on my blog here (was doing it on an e30)

https://fuguttycars.wordpress.com/2015/07/27/like-a-hole-in-the-head-pt-1/

 

bushes you need are

 

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=160882412145&alt=web

 

its all fairly straight forward stuff:)

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I'd say it's those. If I kick the front driver's side wheel from the front, it moves back visibly, then bounces back into place.

 

They don't look too hard to do. If I need to, I can go out to the parents' farm again, as Fathernaut has lots of big crowbars and hammers and a nice big shed to work in.

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I'd say it's those. If I kick the front driver's side wheel from the front, it moves back visibly, then bounces back into place.

 

They don't look too hard to do. If I need to, I can go out to the parents' farm again, as Fathernaut has lots of big crowbars and hammers and a nice big shed to work in.

Well if you get stuck, drop a post on here and we'll help if we can.

 

fyi don't buy cheap bushes- get the ones I linked- with these its buy cheap change twice.

 

have a looka t the outer balljoint before ordering anything- no point fitting a new bush to a shagged arm!

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They're not easy DIY - well the job is simple, just hard work. Getting the bushes off;

 

Cut through the rubber with a sharp knife so the lollipop bit comes off (two 18mm bolts bolt it to the chassis leg.

 

Remove the remains from the wishbone with a grinder - the quickest and easiest way.

 

Clean up the end with emery until it's nice and clean.

 

Clamp the lollipop in a vice and with a hammer and thin chisel, beast the old bush out - I always use a hacksaw inside the lollipop and cut through the steel sleeve.

 

Clean up the lollipop with emery until it's super clean.

 

Now use the vice to squeeze the new one in. Use WD40, align the arrows on the bush with the one on the lollipop but be aware that the bush will press into the lollipop from one side only - you will notice more of an internal chamfer on one side.

 

Refit the bush with WD40 as this dries out quickly - washing up liquid often doesn't. It's bloody hard work but get it started by hand and then use a big copper /hide mallet and beat it on. Fit it at the right angle so it bolts on, as there isn't a hope it hell of twisting it around to fit.

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The repair I did to the exhaust has undone itself between me parking it on Wednesday, then starting it on Saturday to show 17-Coffees how quiet* it was.

 

I had a look at it today, and it seems I can actually move the entire rear section of exhaust forwards and backwards a few mm just by grabbing the tail pipe, and if I look underneath I can see the join has come adrift slightly. Looks like I need to get it up on some ramps again. Bugger.

 

Oh yes, I have those Meyle lollipops now, they arrived in the post today. Not sure when we'll get round to fitting them though.

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Funny thing is, I actually know the owner of that E34.

 

A small update on the exhaust issue:

As we have said, the ECP's exhaust fits* exactly as it should, meaning there is still a slight blowing of the exhaust. Managed to nearly sort it the other day...

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That'll fix it... by C C, on Flickr

 

Near enough a full tube of exhaust paste that is normally used on HGV exhaust's, and the thing still bloody blows...

Next stop will likely be just to weld the pipes together and be done with it. 

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We were bored last night so went out for a drive.

 

I also realised I really should use a tripod when taking photos in low light conditions.

 

Fuck it, have some photos anyway.

 

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We still haven't got round to doing the wishbone bushes either. The new ones are just rattling around in the boot, along with some oil, a spare tail light unit, and a pair of ramps.

 

In other news, you may have noticed from the photos that Mr Coffees now has his Abarth back after the front end got dented by Bambi. To say he's very happy to have it back is an understatement.

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Got the wishbone bushes on by having a cup of tea then coming back to them refreshed and with more energy to twat them harder with the hammer, then took it for a test drive to go and pick up a chippy tea from the local chipper (which is 8 miles from my parents' farm). Just back in Aberdeen now. It drives much better, I wonder why...!

 

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Also, driving a shonky car on Guy Fawkes' is terrifying. All those burning smells and pops and bangs make me really paranoid about the car!

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Exhaust advice needed:

 

We've still never managed to get the ECP special tail section to seal properly with the mid-section.

 

So far, I've notched it with an angle grinder, put loads of gun gum in there and compressed it on with a tightly-fitted exhaust clamp. The bloody thing still blows slightly.

 

I've recently bought an exhaust bandage for it, and I'm wondering if this would help if I were to put it round the join then put the clamp back on over the top. I guess it's worth a shot, but I can't really do it on the street as it looks a bit fiddly, so it may get done next time I'm at the parents' farm. Would this be worth a shot? Any other bright ideas, short of sleeving another bit of exhaust over the whole lot and welding it?

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Well this one had two flanges, but the one on the old section was cracked, and the one on the ECP special was too small to go over the flared end of the pipe!

 

Got the wishbone bushes on with a good dose of rubber and nylon lubricant and using a large socket as a drift to bash them on.

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Fuck me, the lollipops are quite simple - WD40 on both bits and with the wishbones fitted, push with all your might whilst twisting. Wishbones off - WD40 and a nice heavy lump hammer with a block of wood. 

 

Don't use washing up liquid or rubber lubricant, as it won't dry out (like WD40 does)...........

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then took it for a test drive to go and pick up a chippy tea from the local chipper (which is 8 miles from my parents' farm).

 

Which chipper is that? I've only managed to find one takeaway in the Aberdeen area that isn't dreadful and it would be good to find another one.

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Fuck me, the lollipops are quite simple - WD40 on both bits and with the wishbones fitted, push with all your might whilst twisting. Wishbones off - WD40 and a nice heavy lump hammer with a block of wood. 

 

Don't use washing up liquid or rubber lubricant, as it won't dry out (like WD40 does)...........

 

Seriously, use KY, it's water soluble, doesn't harm rubber (like WD40 does) and it dries out.

 

Recall going to buy a tube of it to refit the rubber mounted drive shaft bearing holders into the torque tube on a mates 928. (928 has front engine rear gearbox connected with a 4" diameter tube inside which a 1" diameter drive shaft spins suppported by three bearings in steel holders with a rubber ring around the outside to reduce NVH. replacement of the bearings means sliding the bearing holders about 4' down the tube). Two middle aged blokes buying a large tube of KY raised an eyebrow or two in the discount pharmacy.

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FAIL!

 

Reason(s) for failure
Exhaust has a major leak of exhaust gases Rear section join (7.1.2)
Exhaust emissions Lambda reading after 2nd fast idle outside specified limits (7.3.D.3)
nearside rear inner Brake pipe excessively corroded union to hose (3.6.B.2c)
offside rear inner Brake pipe excessively corroded union to hose (3.6.B.2c)

 

 

Been quoted just £205 to sort it. Hmm. Took it home for now, pending input from 17-Coffees.
 

 
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1 is possibly causing 2. Either that or it wasn't hot enough.

 

The rear end brake pipes are a bit of a pain on these, £205 isn't a terrible quote if it includes a new exhaust section.

 

I would see if anyone local has a brake pipe flaring tool to lend you, if so its probably about 50 quid all in DIY.

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