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With the Locost back on the road and off to it's new owner soon and the Audi going well after major surgery it seemed wrong not having a vehicle in bits.

The Kangoo, whilst running really well, came with no cambelt history and with these engines that is a) a pain in the ass to change and b) increasing the chances of the aux belt failure which can wrap itself round the pulleys and wreck the engine.

At the same time I had a power steering leak to deal with. Anyone who's been around these cars will likely have heard of the problems the systems can give as they get older.  My tame Clio breaker had broken otherwise functional cars for the sake of a leaky pipe. @320touring can feel my pain.

Also, mine had the disconnected air con pump still there and whirring away merrily but not doing anything.

Lesser Clios came with an electronic power steering setup with a motor and gubbins in the column. This is a popular mod both for Clios and other cars, especially in motorsport. A control box is needed to retrofit it to other cars. The warm and cuddly @Tickman was breaking a 1.2 Clio belonging to @stereotype so the column was purloined from it. The controller was purchased from ebay as was a genuine Renault belt and pulley kit along with waterpump.

This will mean the auxiliary pulley only needs to run the alternator. This is achieved by running the setup from the stripped out Clio Cup model which had no  aircon. A shorter belt allows you to run only the alternator. This was also duly purchased so everything was ready to go.

Still with us? Well done.

Monday night I started the strip down. 

The Kangoo has much better access at the front than the Clio-mo faffing about removing bumpers and headlights (so far)

Checking the belt and dephaser and they look OK, but with no history it's not a gamble i want to take. 

Within a fairly short period of time i had all the unnecessary things removed bar the power steering pipes.

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The two pipes on the rack were undone, these get looped together on the rack. 

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The sort of access at the front Clio owners can only dream of...

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Although it's the same as a Clio at the sides-that's the waterpump pulley undone but it can't come out til I jack then engine up/down/swear at it a bit more. The waterpump has play making this a worthwhile endeavour.

I left it there. Next thing is to undo the column at the rack and link the pipes on the rack. I'll try and get as many pipes out of the engine bay but it's a convoluted mess of a system. Then i'll do the belt change and get the old column out and swapped over. I'll remove the dash to do this as it'll make things easier and let me do the wiring properly*

As long as I don't get too distracted by my new purchase(s) that is...

 

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So, as I said in the News24 thread a new purchase has been agreed. The plan was, and still is for an Opel Manta to replace the Locost. Because of my hatred for welding and rusty bodywork/dodgy”restorations” the goal is to go to the continent and rescue a Manta coupe of some sort, spec unimportant, ideally white and solid. Obviously that’s not happening this year though so it can wait.

Meanwhile since getting a dog a couple of years ago I’d walked past a very unloved looking Jaguar XJ6 whilst walking round the village. Speaking to a chap  knew who stayed next door I was told the chap was getting on and couldn’t look after it. Oh and there’s another one in the garage!

I kept in touch but other things distracted me. I was desperate to know what was in the garage though!

Things finally aligned so I went along on Saturday for a look.

First the X300.

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This has sat outside since getting driven home from its last MOT 3 years ago. It has been started regulary though and ran and sounded fine when I was there. Sitting outside hasn’t been kind to the paint though-lots of lacquer peel and some crustiness appearing round the arches. The interior was lovely though and it seemed willing to live again. Plan is to get it home this weekend, give it a damn good clean and check the obvious stuff and chuck it in for an MOT.

Underside. Hmm. We'll see. I'm not touching it til the tester has had a prod. It seemed solid from the rusty bits i prodded though. it has been welded before according to the MOT history which may be ominous

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Then it was time to see what was lurking inside the garage...

Oooh

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Oooooh! Hello!

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TWR steering wheel, because Racecar. Or because the previous owner specced it for better access apparently....

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Steel wheels and trims FTW!

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This was apparently parked up 18 years ago after developing a leak from the transmission cooler. Although the chap told me he'd bypassed the cooler with a rubber pipe. Apparently on around 70k miles. 

So, there we are. Plan is to get the X300 home soon and clean it up. Then we'll see what the MOT man has to say before I spend any money on it. Hopefully it can see the road again though. It'll hopefully get sold on once i've smoked around in it a bit and got it working properly to allow me to devote my attention to the XJ40-that's the one I really want to see alive again. I've said I'd split any profits from it with the owner as part of the deal.

The XJ40 i'll need to go into full resuscitation mode-drain fuel, oil down bores, new battery etc and see if it'll start. Ideally I'd do that where it is and drive it the half mile home home but that might* be ambitious. 

 

 

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15 minutes ago, hairnet said:

so bye bye racecar

to possibly buy a rally car :)

then you buy two limos?

WTF? :D

early one like the one we saw in france or the later run out sort?

carry on :D

 

err. i've never been to France with you? i'm sure i'd remember if i had... But yeah, the later shape-Manta B from 1976 on. 

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1 hour ago, hairnet said:

no me and crazy dave went to france for the citroen thing and saw this

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or i meant the later run out exclusive

i like a's and b's but the exclusive is me favourite version

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Either of those would do fine! It'd ideally end up with the later body kit but be in white. As a base car I'm more interested in something solid though, I don't care on the age, colour or where the steering wheel is

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I like you you've gone from sending me pictures of the Jag to actually buying it yourself!

Not being a stranger to these cars I'm sure you'll have both running well in no time.

Now I'm just off to shut myself away for 6 months until you sell them to someone else once you've got them sorted so I'm not tempted. I really do like these especially the x300.

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Did a bit more on the kangoo tonight-managed to get all the power steering gubbins out.

Here it is layed out for the world to see as it sits in the engine bay. Pump is top left of the pic which would be RHS front on the car, rack top right.

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So of course being french they route it all the way round the sodding engine bay...

I could then chop down the 2 solid pipes that go into the rack and connect them with a section of rubber house.  The rest of the connections were blanked off and it's now manual steering. Til I fit the electric column.IMG_20200624_191718032.thumb.jpg.6255ea8ec966d21b8b36d3fcf9b5ce24.jpgIMG_20200624_191754128.thumb.jpg.267327014b9f01df6be02e08d473fc82.jpg

Not great pics but access is tight as you can imagine. 

I also got the column undone at the ravk, and started stripping the dash out but had to nip out.

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I had to nip out to arrange collection of the Jag, happening tomorrow lunchtime. No need for a collection thread, it's only half a mile away. Will it make it home though? Place your bets...IMG_20200624_205146376.thumb.jpg.b5b04dde599c57d8017cb0d25eee1c2c.jpg

Chap has owned it for 20 years!

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