Landy Mann Posted May 26, 2021 Author Share Posted May 26, 2021 A few small patches this evening, I've learnt a couple of things: 1. Welding upside down is more difficult 2. Underseal is flammable 3. I really should just buy a cross member with long extensions 4. The corrosion is extreme, look how much the cross member has expanded into iron oxide... BlankFrank 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy Mann Posted June 12, 2021 Author Share Posted June 12, 2021 So this welding session is complete for now, more reports to follow when I man up and just replace the cross member. The weld bay set up, the blackline 200 gets my thumbs up. Not pretty and slightly steam punk but solid. More than happy for any feedback on what the MOT tester might say The cat says stop welding I need fuss. Throwing some under seal on it all tomorrow. mat_the_cat, Coprolalia, anonymous user and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split_Pin Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 How do you find the push fit connection from the clear pipe from the gas cylinder to the thin pipe on your welder? I can't get mine to stop leaking ever so slightly. Hobbyweld gas is dear and I don't want to waste it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somewhatfoolish Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Can the pushfit be removed? They don't cost much to replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy Mann Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 My welder didn't come set up for disposable gas, it just had a hose tail (looks like 1/4" BSP although I haven't checked), so I could just use a small jubilee clip from the regulator output into the house tail. Split_Pin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickman Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 14 hours ago, Landy Mann said: Either lie your gas bottle down or tie it do something, it is quite annoying when it falls and destroys the gauges. alf892 and sutty2006 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy Mann Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 Well time for an update... Short on photos but here goes: Confidence boosting patches done. I then drove around for awhile before the next step Cut of off all my hard work new cross member on (not welded in this photo) Roll on several months later, all done and time to look at other bits of chassis Front outrigger didn't look bad until I poked it no tools necessary. Parts of the top front and rear of the outrigger needed replacing, this was easier than I expected. Final patch on, my welding is definitely improving. MOT booked for Wednesday, this should give me a to-do list for the final bits needed to get road worthy. wuvvum, Andyrew, warch and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake's Den Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Great work! I thought that my rear cross member was patchy but yours definetly wins! I'm wanting to do a rear cross member replacement early next year. Which one did you choose? I was looking at the ones with extensions but there were so many types - bare metal, galvanised, powder coated, heavy duty., with extensions welded on, with the extensions provided seperately...the price difference was quite eye opening. I was worried that the cheaper ones would be a poor fit and require a lot of fettling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy Mann Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 I went for this one https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/292222245156?fits=Model%3ADefender&epid=1922835409&hash=item4409cd9924:g:QYYAAOxyhlJRe3Gn although I'm sure the price has crept up since I bought mine. This one has extensions that butt up against one of the body cross members so there is less alignment to worry about. I think my final mounting of it was a bit low but there's enough tolerance that is still seems to fit ok. I decided against galv, this will outlast the rest of the chassis any way. Also I had a massive nose bleed after my one and only attempt at welding galv unistrut a couple of years ago so steered clear of it. (Although I suspect if it was related grinding/cleaning the galv off first would have solved that!) The most challenging bit was trying to clean up and access the top of the chassis rails. Blake's Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy Mann Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 Also in a previous life it had already had a cross member with no extensions fitted so I wanted to get back to good metal as much as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy Mann Posted November 10, 2021 Author Share Posted November 10, 2021 I'll take that.... Not sure there's enough oil leak advisories though... Date tested10 November 2021 PASS Mileage130,121 miles Expiry date9 November 2022 Monitor and repair if necessary (advisories): Power steering component has slight seepage from a component steering box (2.1.5 (a)) Offside Seat belt anchorage prescribed area is corroded but not considered excessive step (7.1.1 (a) (i)) Upper Steering column universal joint has slight wear or play (2.2.2 (c)) Oil leak, but not excessive (8.4.1 (a) (i)) Oil leak, but not excessive rear diff (8.4.1 (a) (i)) Oil leak, but not excessive gearbox (8.4.1 (a) (i)) Oil leak, but not excessive both front hubs (8.4.1 (a) (i)) Brake pipe corroded, covered in grease or other material all (1.1.11 (c)) slight lift in n/s front lower suspension joint warch, Coprolalia, Jack D and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warch Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 I like the oil leak under nearly everything that has oil in. Seems like a reasonable MoT tester though, most do seem to have a soft spot for the poor sod palpating like he’s on the final round of Who wants to be a Millionaire having just brought an old Landrover in for inspection. Landy Mann 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake's Den Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 On 11/7/2021 at 10:25 PM, Landy Mann said: I went for this one https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/292222245156?fits=Model%3ADefender&epid=1922835409&hash=item4409cd9924:g:QYYAAOxyhlJRe3Gn although I'm sure the price has crept up since I bought mine. This one has extensions that butt up against one of the body cross members so there is less alignment to worry about. I think my final mounting of it was a bit low but there's enough tolerance that is still seems to fit ok. I decided against galv, this will outlast the rest of the chassis any way. Also I had a massive nose bleed after my one and only attempt at welding galv unistrut a couple of years ago so steered clear of it. (Although I suspect if it was related grinding/cleaning the galv off first would have solved that!) The most challenging bit was trying to clean up and access the top of the chassis rails. Ooofff, that's expensive. I'm probably going to get a bare metal one and rust proof it myself. That way if it falls apart after a year then I've only got myself to blame 😁 Good work with the MoT. Don't worry about the oil leaks, mine has had that as an advisory for every online MoT record! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy Mann Posted May 31, 2023 Author Share Posted May 31, 2023 Well I didn't update the thread with last years pre MOT welding... however to bring us upto date as fresh sorn is applied, the 110 is freshly washed. Let the summer welding season commence! (it about 4 weeks time when I have some time!). After 11 years it's time to tackle the bulkhead again. Dyslexic Viking, AnnoyingPentium and Saabnut 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy Mann Posted July 30, 2023 Author Share Posted July 30, 2023 Roll on 8 weeks and we had progress till rain stopped play. Only a couple of bolts to get the other wing off, loads of lovely rust, but all repairable so far. Tickman, sutty2006 and Dyslexic Viking 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2flags Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 I know how well these can rust. I did the drivers footwell on mine a few years ago. This was followed by a complete chassis swap. While that was done, polybushed throughout and new springs and shocks. This was soon followed by a new clutch slave cylinder. Tickman, Dyslexic Viking and Landy Mann 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N Dentressangle Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 As a serial Land Rover botherer, I've never understood why LR never spent the few miserable quid it would have cost them to galvanise the chassis and bulkhead from the factory. It's not like these were ever cheap to buy new. Seems perverse. But then that's Land Rover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty2006 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 I often think the same about mine….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyslexic Viking Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 2 hours ago, N Dentressangle said: As a serial Land Rover botherer, I've never understood why LR never spent the few miserable quid it would have cost them to galvanise the chassis and bulkhead from the factory. It's not like these were ever cheap to buy new. Seems perverse. But then that's Land Rover. Something must kill them so we have to buy new ones. That would be my guess on that. juular and Dick Longbridge 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy Mann Posted August 14, 2023 Author Share Posted August 14, 2023 Progress... Repair or replace? Replacement isn't cheep but should last 40 years Dyslexic Viking and mk2_craig 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy Mann Posted August 22, 2023 Author Share Posted August 22, 2023 While the bulkheads off it's time for some chassis welding: Hole: Bigger hole: Patch cut: Welded up: It makes a change to weld bits of chassis that are accessible and not upside down. Dyslexic Viking, mk2_craig and juular 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy Mann Posted August 22, 2023 Author Share Posted August 22, 2023 I'm sure this passed the hammer test earlier on this evening... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy Mann Posted August 22, 2023 Author Share Posted August 22, 2023 De ja vu? Bigger hole: Patch cut: Welded up: As far as I know that's the end of chassis welding for this year but will no doubt be proved wrong! mk2_craig, mat_the_cat and Dyslexic Viking 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N Dentressangle Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 20 minutes ago, Landy Mann said: As far as I know that's the end of chassis welding for this year but will no doubt be proved wrong! 🤣 It isn't and you know it EyesWeldedShut 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyrew Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Thats a very tidy repair. Top work sir! Landy Mann 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy Mann Posted August 23, 2023 Author Share Posted August 23, 2023 Thanks @Andyrewmost of the credit should go to the Black line Mig and hobbyweld 5 gas... Anyway onwards, cleaned* up: On with etch primer, this did react in places with the residual lanogaurd: I won't claim to be good at painting or having a particularly good coating system but my process is going to be as follows: etch prime, then either hammerite underseal (the one with added waxoil) or the cheap screwfix black hammerite type paint followed by the annual lanogaurd once the bulkhead is back on. Dyslexic Viking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplebargeken Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 Loved my 110. Spent a good bit of time and money getting it back on the road. MOT was due and it had a slight leak from the PAS reservoir and needed a slight welding repair to the rear of the chassis. The former Mrs PBK refused to let me have the money to get the work done, so off it went via ebay and it never saw the road again. Gutted and annoyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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