capsuleboy Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 After 6 good years I suppose a good and proper fail was overdue. Firstly a little damp in the main fusebox ment it wouldn't start, so had to be recovered to my prefered Avi knowing garage in Notts, MGC servicing.I knew the brakes and tyres were overdue, but the MOT was unplesent.Reason(s) for failurefront brake disc in such a condition that it is seriously weakened (3.5.1i)rear brake disc in such a condition that it is seriously weakened (3.5.1i)rear Direction indicator incorrect colour Both (1.4.A.2f)front Headlamp not working on main beam Both (1.7.5a)front Steering arm has relative movement at its fixings Both (2.2.B.1h)nearside front Track rod end ball joint dust cover excessively deteriorated so that it no longer prevents the ingress of dirt (2.2.C.1c)offside front Track rod end ball joint has excessive play (2.2.B.1f)nearside front Tyre has a cut in excess of the requirements deep enough to reach the ply or cords (4.1.D.1a)Brake pipe excessively corroded Front to Rear (3.6.B.2c)Advisory notice item(s)offside front Tyre worn close to the legal limit 235/50/17 (4.1.E.1)rear Both Rear Tyres Slight Tread LiftSo this is why what look like immaculate cars this age get scrapped.Going to be the thick end of 1200 /1500 quid.Winged it for a couple of years so not so bad.8 Cavcraft, cort16, Dick Longbridge and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omegod Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Shit that's brutal! is that estimate with them doing all the work? What are the part prices like for these beauties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethj Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 When you look at the fail sheet it's not so bad. Tyres and track rod ends go all the time, brakes wear out too and light bulbs blow. It's not as if the transmission has spun a bearing, the petrol tanks has rusted out and there's severe corrosion near seat belt anchor points. It's just a bit unfortunate that all its biorhythms have aligned on MoT day, but plenty of people spend a couple of hundred every year for the MoT so which is worse? oldcars, The Moog, chaseracer and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panhard65 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Sounds a very harsh mot. The discs must be really bad to be weakened I would get a second opinion if it was me, sounds like they are trying it on. xtriple 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capsuleboy Posted March 5, 2016 Author Share Posted March 5, 2016 Thats how I look at it, 5 years work all at once!Brakes 200 each end.Pipes 200.Track rods and steering 200.Tyres 150 for 2.Recovery 100.Electrics ???... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capsuleboy Posted March 5, 2016 Author Share Posted March 5, 2016 Sounds a very harsh mot. The discs must be really bad to be weakened I would get a second opinion if it was me, sounds like they are trying it on.Dont think so, been an advisory every year, knew they would be needed soon.But yes the rest of the test is very picky... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyboy406v6 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Seems pricey, have you shopped around for parts, and who is doing the spanners thingy ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omegod Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Looking at it again it's a proper days graft depending on whether the brake pipe can be cleaned and greased and the tyres are bought economically via used/ditchfinders it's a few hundred quid. that's a lovely colour by the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Not that bad a fail really. I guess if you have been ignoring advisories it is putting off inevitable. Looks lovely though Pete-M 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Bo11ox Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 I guess if you have one of these and are not doing the spannering yourself, a bill of £1500 every couple of years is probably pretty good going actually Cleon-Fonte, Junkman, Coprolalia and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capsuleboy Posted March 5, 2016 Author Share Posted March 5, 2016 Your not wrong Boll, should budget a grand a year to keep in top condition.Trouble is the last couple of years money has been spent on wheel refurb/ stainless exaust and other pretty bits.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Q Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 You should scrap it m8. Scraps low at the moment so you'll have to pay them to take it away, as you're a shiter I'll do you a BIG favour and give you 50 quid cash for it. Junkman, andrew e and For Fiats Sake 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 *stupid question alert* why did it need to be trailered home, as it still had valid test left? (I assume cos not roadworthy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercrocker Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Doesn't seem an unreasonable shopping list for a 14 year old Renner. None of it made any worse by being attached to such a great looking car. capsuleboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tapir Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Seems a shame to scrap it, a rare thing on the roads now or even ever... myglaren 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Reason(s) for failure front brake disc in such a condition that it is seriously weakened (3.5.1i) rear brake disc in such a condition that it is seriously weakened (3.5.1i) Just needs new pads and discs. Standard wear and tear item rear Direction indicator incorrect colour Both (1.4.A.2f)New yellow indicator bulb required. front Headlamp not working on main beam Both (1.7.5a)I guess this is the main fusebox is causing this. Probably a good dry out, or possibly a second hand part. front Steering arm has relative movement at its fixings Both (2.2.B.1h) nearside front Track rod end ball joint dust cover excessively deteriorated so that it no longer prevents the ingress of dirt (2.2.C.1c) offside front Track rod end ball joint has excessive play (2.2.B.1f)Couple of steering parts. Standard Renault point. Track rod ends shouldn't be too bad. nearside front Tyre has a cut in excess of the requirements deep enough to reach the ply or cords (4.1.D.1a) Advisory notice item(s) offside front Tyre worn close to the legal limit 235/50/17 (4.1.E.1) rear Both Rear Tyres Slight Tread LiftNew tyres needed Brake pipe excessively corroded Front to Rear (3.6.B.2c)This I suspect will be the expensive one. Not for parts, but for labour. So this is why what look like immaculate cars this age get scrapped.How much do you want for it? Seriously, if you're going down the scrappage route, I'd buy it off you as a project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For Fiats Sake Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 S'pose it's wether you've saved the £1k maintenance budget or no as to your course of action.Bung it on the visa and it's less than 150 a month - or get a new* car for the same monthly payment .Of course next month after work is done it will explode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For Fiats Sake Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 S'pose it's wether you've saved the £1k maintenance budget or no as to your course of action.Bung it on the visa and it's less than 150 a month - or get a new* car for the same monthly payment .Of course next month after work is done it will explode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Station Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Did you search those items on eBay and sorted max price first? Sounds a bit pricey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capsuleboy Posted March 5, 2016 Author Share Posted March 5, 2016 Defo being fixed, can't fault the garage doing the work, its just what it costs if you can't do it yourself.I'm ok on the proper old stuff, but not this.Its was recovered from home as my RAC covers everthing except homestart. Cant tow it as its an auto.What I ment is if it was an Espace/Laguna ect it would be goodbye time.The only frustration is the fact they are still worth little, so it a heart not head ruling this. Lord Sterling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Q Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 I don't think the bill sounds that terrible if its for everything, depends on the labour for the brake pipes but for all i know theyre routed through the headlining or something. Its all very well saying I'd fix it for £12.50 and a days work but some people can't or won't turn their own spanners, if so this is what it costs. Well done for getting it fixed anyway capsuleboy, looks lovely even on the back of a truck. capsuleboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 What I ment is if it was an Espace/Laguna ect it would be goodbye time. The only frustration is the fact they are still worth little, so it a heart not head ruling this. Give it time, as more and more break their value will only increase - especially given the cost of replacing the cambelt in the v6 (engine out afaik). I remember when these could be reliably had for sub 1k. Now you're looking at 2k starting cost at least. Plus trying to find one is hard enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asimo Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Hope the headlight fix is easy - does your's have bulbs or those HID jobbies?The brake parts are a bit expensive and the tyres aren't a common size: I bought mine on the basis that it would come with a fresh MOT - it did, after failing on discs and tyres!Quite a hit according to the seller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capsuleboy Posted March 5, 2016 Author Share Posted March 5, 2016 Think the lights are controlled by one of the relays in the damaged fusebox. No longer available from Reno, hopefully, a chap in Scotland I have been put on to has one from a breaker.Tyres £120 a pair from lovetyres, good quaility Uniroyals.Been a 6 year love affair can't bail now. Dave_Q 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuboy Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 if you love it, like it, gonna keep it, yourll pay it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Cant tow it as its an auto. Isn't it amazing, how long since debunked legends remain in popular folklore over generations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capsuleboy Posted March 6, 2016 Author Share Posted March 6, 2016 Clearly I never knew that... tooSavvy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooSavvy Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Oohh! Long ago, when I did chips away on screens, a dealer had a turbo Rover220 and blew his diff. Recovery dragged it back rear wheels up, backwards. Pin came adrift in broken diff and lunched housing.... Tow company had a BIG bill - young lad thought it was RWD/Gbox fault/dont turn prop. Only once... Eh? TS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cort16 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 I'd say that's about right and well worth it to keep it on the road. If it was something less interesting then you might think twice.Parts are okay priced for them and you can get a lot of stuff from the factors rather than go back to renault.I think I spent about 300 quid on mine over the 3-4 months I had it on various things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FakeConcern Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 I spotted one of these new Renners today & it reminded me of the Avantime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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