Waderider Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Short story - went to start my petrol 1.6 V40 today, turned over for a second, then starter stopped, loud ticking from the starter area, sounds like arcing. Each 'tick' extinguishes all dash bulbs etc. Waited until dark and tried again with a helper in the hope of seeing shorting. .Whilst trying this the symptoms have increased. Even with the key turned to the position it sits at for 'just driving along', there is ticking and all the dash lights flicking on and of. Any ideas how to proceed? Extra info - as above, plus - car has been up on axle stands for the last week awaiting arrival of shock and springs, £300 worth. I tried starting it just to give it a turn over as it is normally in daily use. Had the car eight years as my daily, well maintained, but currently needs cambelt and hence also aux belt and waterpump. 120,000 miles 53 plate. Exchange starter is another £100 quid. Car worth what, £600? Dilemma is that I am now unsure that it is just a starter problem so my parts costs are exceeding cars value. Would you soldier on or move on? I think I could return the suspension bits for a refund once they arrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felly Magic Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Is the battery goosed? Barry Cade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R9UKE Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 At the risk of patronising - have you tried charging or changing the battery? Barry Cade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twosmoke300 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Deffo sounds like a flat battery or bad earth to me Barry Cade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVee8 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Have you tried jump starting the car? Barry Cade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cade Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 all of the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artdjones Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 And who is charging £300 for a shock and spring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waderider Posted February 28, 2016 Author Share Posted February 28, 2016 Battery 2 years old okay on multimeter. £300 is for shocks springs and strut bearings both sides. Volvo original strut top bearing plates as last time I fitted pattern parts and one has failed after two years. Can't jump start car up on axle stands. Was trying to turn it over as it has been on stands for a while - a week since I ordered suspension components, downside of living in the highlands. This last fact means I don't have scrapyards to utilise either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanky Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Secondhand starter should be cheap on ebay, I once got one for less than the cost of postage for a Mk2 Scirocco, so something common like this should show up plenty of results. Charge or swap in a known-good battery then try it again, if it still just clicks move to shite-con 3 and try whacking the starter with a hammer a couple of times and see what it does - if it bursts into life (potentially after charging the battery) then the bendix is on its way out and is sticking, confirming the knackered starter synopsis. A secondhand one should be cheap and can;t be worse than than the Mk3 mondeo diesel starter I once changed for a mate in exchange for a cup of tea. That was a poor choice on my part. cambelt and whatnot should run to about £200? Cheaper than the cost of going out and buying anything else as practical... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Sounds like the starter has had enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asimo Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 What would I do? Charge the battery. Multimeter won't tell you anything about battery condition unless you measure battery voltage whilst drawing a heavy current from the battery. hennabm and Barry Cade 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyboy406v6 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Scrap it and by a Mercedes Benz ( other makes of motor car are not suitable ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselassist Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 have you had the starter out, n bench tested it, via a battery or plugged in battery charger?? theres vids on you'tube about 'how to' do this... ...new parts from Volvo, seem well expensive given the age/resale value of these cars; €180 for a single headlamp, when my sister had one - needed for test... GSF/Euro parts probably do the timing belt bits for small enough money... if you fall out of love with it completely, you could always just drive well beyond the next 'timing belt' interval in the hope it doesn't snap, with a lucky rabbits foot in the glovebox or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HH-R Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Sounds like battery to me too, especially if it has been standing (even if just for a week!). They seem to die in a working one day, broken the next way nowadays rather than giving lots of warning, though it might just need a charge. Barry Cade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waderider Posted February 28, 2016 Author Share Posted February 28, 2016 Battery it is, what a numpty! Thinking about it, last and perhaps only time I had a flat battery was a Mini 1000 with a carb and points. Never really considered how a 'modern' car would act with a flat battery. Thanks for the responses KruJoe, Lacquer Peel, egg and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Sounds like an arcing live cable near the starter, plus a bad earth somewhere. Also, ignition switch contacts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierraman Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 It's all well and good spending money on a starter but if it's wanting a load spending in near future belts etc I'd be tempted to bodge it up and move it on on gumtree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordperv Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Export it to Scotland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyG Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 I think it's already there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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