Essex V6 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Not my cup of tea personally, but I have a mate who has asked my opinion on these.Being post 1980's I know nothing about these cars. The one he is looking is badermatic. Anyone have any experience of these and, if so what is your view on them? Thanks Muchly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
320touring Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 If it has the m54 6cyl in it that is good. If it is a 4banger walk away, life is too short! Got a link to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essex V6 Posted April 23, 2015 Author Share Posted April 23, 2015 Www.precisionautos.co.nz Vehicle id 1747 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cort16 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I think these have a 4 pot in them I think you need to got to a 130 to get a 6 pot in these.It'll probably go alright and be decent on fuel. They've got that horrible interior BMW put them in at this time and to my eyes they're well fugly (and I own a nissan Juke) Cavcraft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taff Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I had two of them as company cars, did 80,000 in each of them over four years.against:- ugly as fuck, odd-shaped boot and very little rear leg room.for:- you can't see how ugly it is from the drivers seat, I found it very comfortable, 56mpg, fast when it's needed and never broke down. hennabm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommotech Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 M-Sport suspension can be crashy and harsh unless your local roads are billiard table flat. It was possible to de-spec to 'normal' suspension that was used on the SE etc. Handling is superb though on either set-up and the car is comfortable, unless you're tall and travelling in the rear.Marmite styling that I quite like, though many hate. Be wary of noisy timing chains that warn of impending failure to proceed, but that is mainly on N47 diesel variants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keymaster Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Driven plenty of 5 door 1 series hire cars over the years. They drive pretty well & good fun with the small wheelbase & rwd, but the smaller engined ones are a bit* lethargic. The m sport specced versions are a bit* harsh on rough roads. All versions like to tramline on the motorway Avoid any fitted with runflats like the plague, always seemed to get punctured either that or the sensors were shit. Possibly both. I quite fancy one as a daily at some point & was always chuffed when they sent me a 123d - its got 400 torques, same as the M135! Not sure I'd run a diesel one as my own car though... apparently they eat their timing chains so a 120i would do for me. *very Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cort16 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 They plucked the 123d motor out the 1 series and put it in the d3 3 series alpina with some tweaks as it was supposed to be a really sweet motor (as far as a diesel motor can be obz).Run flats ruined the ride of all this generation of BMWs. Fit a spare wheel to the boot lid Rover P6 style. barefoot and laser wheels 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporty-shite Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I own a nissan Juke)You're dead to me. Cavcraft, Dave_Q and Lacquer Peel 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cort16 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 They're excellent cars as long as you don't have to look at them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillmanImp Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 M-Sport Its a modern car so the suspension can be crashy and harsh unless your local roads are billiard table flat. FTFY. Like all modern cars they are designed for that 1% of the time you might want to drive it like a dick making the other 99% an absolutely dreadful driving experience Mad Cyril, hennabm, Lacquer Peel and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_lihp Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 My ex had one on a 10 plate, did quite a few miles in it for a few months and I have to say that they're right, it was harsh, bumpy, too low down and uncomfortable. Run-flat tyres probably had something to do with it and they were very expensive to replace too. She liked it but I found it odd, very heavy clutch, terrible visibility. It ate up motorway miles pretty well but I was always glad to climb out of it. It did feel like a high-quality item but it was also less well specced than my Kia C'eed despite costing over twice as much when new! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Caning a 116i was about the most fun I've ever had on a test drive. Dealer was absolutely terrified, which then changed to barely-disguised fury when I said "I love it! It's like a 21st Century Chevette!".Downsides: Crappy small windscreen so it's like watching the world through a letterbox, gearlever too far back for me, everyone thinks you have a 1-series because you can't afford a proper BMW. My conclusion was to get an RX8 instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garbaldy Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 ∆What is it with test driving BMW? I tested mine and after a leisurely 3 figure thrash down motorway the salesman told me he would drive back, no way said I and slipped of up some back roads on the way back, he was pretty cross with me until I agreed to buy it hahaMind after having two not sure I would want another,Seat airbag warning problems aside nothing went wrong,If I remember correctly when I called dealer for cost of repair they couldn't give a rough idea of cost or time it would take, apart from telling me the labour rate was 140 odd an hour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Oh, I test drove everything like that, Borders roads have that effect on you (as you should know looking at that thingy saying Berwickshire ). Used to be everyone in the Borders drove that way, but it looks like some SUV-driving city-folk-in-the-country have moved in lately and as such, it's not one of Nairn's HGV trucks doing 60 around bends (but on the right side of the line) you've got to worry about, it's 20mph Discoveries halfway in your lane.Wait, that should be in the grumble thread.Also, having taken apart BMW's finest moment, the E39, I conclude they have build quality on par with an MG 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srad34 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 The four pot 2.0 pez N53 lump is notorious for dodgy injectors, porus blocks and coil pack issues, walk away...quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercrocker Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I love reading about this modern pish, it confirms what I already thought and saves me all the ball-ache of actually having to bother to drive any of it myself. hennabm, EssDeeWon and Justin Case 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacquer Peel Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Pre-emptively scrap it. Cavcraft and Essex V6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essex V6 Posted April 25, 2015 Author Share Posted April 25, 2015 Thanks for the feedback chaps. Personally, I think they are hideous! Unlike the Mk1 Escort I had a shot of today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Mk 1 is probably worth more than the 120, too... I can't believe I had a 1300 Sport for £500 in 2001ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garbaldy Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Mk1 you sayAnother one brought back from Germany garethj and Essex V6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essex V6 Posted April 25, 2015 Author Share Posted April 25, 2015 Mk 1 is probably worth more than the 120, too... I can't believe I had a 1300 Sport for £500 in 2001ish.I had a 2 door 1300E which I sold for. I think £700! RichardK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HH-R Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 1 series are incredibly cramped and claustrophobic inside. Outside... well they can look OK from certain angles (the back) and really clumsy from others (45 degree angle to the front). Wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 I had a 2 door 1300E which I sold for. I think £700! This is how old people feel, isn't it, when they go to classic car shows. "I had one of those when you could buy them for £150!" "What was it, grandad" "A Mk 3 Ford Capri Laser" *cries* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownnova Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Personally I like the 1 Series (I would, I've got one) find them pretty good to drive I like the looks, and unless your mate carries people in the back often I wouldn't worry about the rear space no one has ever complained in the back of mine Only problem is no one lets you out at junctions... hennabm and Taff 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadworkUK Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 I really like them, but then I know that I'm a bit of a twat. It probably won't fail spectacularly because your mate will look after it properly. I'd have a 116i. Dreadfully thirsty, slower than the moon rising but I've driven few cars as sweet sounding and zingy. RichardK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkNWeigh Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 This is how old people feel, isn't it, when they go to classic car shows."I had one of those when you could buy them for £150!""What was it, grandad""A Mk 3 Ford Capri Laser"*cries*It's one thing seeing cars at shows that you had as an old banger when you were a teenager, what makes me feel really old is when something I had as a company car is sitting in a field with a a showboard of resto pics and rosettes and a giffer with a deckchair proudly looking on. Pillock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripped fred Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Mk1 you sayAnother one brought back from Germany IMG_20150311_121442558_HDR.jpgThat looks like one I spotted the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket88 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 They're ok, although the run flats are noisy sods, and the ride is a trifle "abrupt". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 It's one thing seeing cars at shows that you had as an old banger when you were a teenager, what makes me feel really old is when something I had as a company car is sitting in a field with a a showboard of resto pics and rosettes and a giffer with a deckchair proudly looking on.I got a rosette for my car at a car show once, the proper giffer-with-deckchair kind of place. My car was a four year old X1/9 Gran Finale. Oh god. One day there will be an Insignia at a car show, won't there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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