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MO's UMM, what have I done thread! front end dismantling


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Very interesting, I haven't seen one of these in the flesh since agricultural shows in the early 1990s when a local tractor dealer (Zetor and Ursus, a purveyor of prime tracto-shite) was trying to flog them.

 

Vaguely remember the sales pitch being "it's basically a Peugeot underneath" when that was a good thing implying a long life and durability!

 

P.S has it got Talbot dials, they look a bit Alpine/Horizonish?

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This buying a vehicle sight unseen, knowing it's been off the road for a wee while!!? Is it a good idea or a bad one?

 

Well, I kind of thought what's the worst that can happen - I buy a rusty old heap with a shed load of problems.

 

So, I now have umm, well, an UMM on the driveway.

 

Brian had called me from Gloucester saying he was twentyfive minutes or so away and that the UMM had no steering - OMG I thought!!! What HAVE I DONE!!!!!!!!

 

Well, she arrived safely, and, just for Cavcraft, there is down and dirty Iveco action!

yes, I have safely only shown the arse end of an Iveco. No full frontal views!

 

16853807312_d91a86822d_z.jpgIMG_1108 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

 

16668810679_3655061b36_z.jpgIMG_1110 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

 

it was a neat job of reversing in.

 

16667544970_af23524db5_z.jpgIMG_1113 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

 

16647621177_06dc57d25d_z.jpgIMG_1114 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

 

Once in, it was dropped off the trailer - remember, no brakes, and no steering!!!

 

No steering, you say, I wonder why that is?

 

16647435697_65b9723528_z.jpgIMG_1143 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

 

I wonder, is there something missing there? You bet, there is.

 

So, I had a friend on hand, he'd brought his trolley jack so we had a pair, but I had a farm jack from my time with land Rovers and we jacked up the UMM and turned the wheels by hand then wheeled it over roughly into position and then we stuck the farm jack under the bumper at the front and knocked it over so it moved about eight inches at a time. Five or six goes at this and a few at the back had it in its new home.

 

Bricked up the rear wheel and opened the bonnet.

 

16232378544_3a2ba92c88_z.jpgIMG_1142 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

 

16647595767_39b7dd67a9_z.jpgIMG_1119 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

 

shoved a crappy battery in with about 11 volts

 

16853705872_987e40296a_z.jpgIMG_1128 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

 

jumped it to the Merc and had it turning over on the ignition - but no joy on starting. I think we need a proper battery bolted in place but more later ...

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so, she's turning over, there's a lack of brakes and a lack of steering. We know why that is on both fronts - one easily solved, the other more problematic.

 

16667505190_0cd3d881ea_z.jpgIMG_1122 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

in the back is the servo and master cylinder. I was told by previous owner that this is the m/c from Skattrd's one as the one in this was brand new and was swapped over. I guess the steering link went the same way. 

 

So, here's the interior!

 

16234851933_ed3c426b5d_z.jpgIMG_1121 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

 

yes, I do think a dog has been living there. But nothing a good clean won't sort out.

 

16853668122_0ed2d5660d_z.jpgIMG_1120 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

 

Yes, I have a posh one with carpets.

 

16647583897_430e061f70_z.jpgIMG_1123 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

 

the driver's seat is grotty too.

 

First job is to empty it out and clean this crap from it.

 

16647578247_1004ed09e0_z.jpgIMG_1124 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

the driver's view!

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so far, it's looking OK! I've found 7p inside plus two bic pens.

 

She has power and therefore some things works.

 

 

16853731011_c6d84db01e_z.jpgIMG_1135 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

interior light

 

Light stalk is not fitted! And the wires have been cut!  Why, when all you had to do was unplug it?

 

 

16668636769_8505359804_z.jpgIMG_1136 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

 

The hazard lights switch is missing!

 

The heater fan works! That's a bonus.

 

On the dash, I have glow plug and ignition lights, she turns over and I think, with a decent battery has the potential to actually fire up.

 

Underneath, you say!

 

16668599059_4c6a500302_z.jpgIMG_1144 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

 

16667411060_52aa86575f_z.jpgIMG_1131 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

The chassis looks alright!

 

16667400400_ce004d071f_z.jpgIMG_1133 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

 

what about the arches, you say!

 

Well, underneath the arches ... is like this!!!!

 

16647388517_965bb384e0_z.jpgIMG_1156 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

 

16232315704_104208d514_z.jpgIMG_1158 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

 

16854782775_bea8a8d796_z.jpgIMG_1134 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

 

These all need work - flat panels and 2mm thick steel so even I may be able to weld them and even if I don't they will be cheap to pay someone to do!

 

There is some history (with another of these taking it to 2011)

 

16232328574_b8feec3dfc_z.jpgIMG_1155 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

 

The tyres are actually alright.

 

What do I need to do immediately?

 

Clean it.

 

Sort out starting, so it does, that's a trip to the scrappy for a battery!

 

I need to buy the following as a matter of urgency:

steering link

master cylinder (or repair kit)

switches - lights and wiper ones as both have obvious faults - as well as a hazard switch to replace the missing one.

couple of lights - broken lenses

foglamps - to replace the missing ones

rear window with seal

fuel cap (missing)

two mirrors (missing)

bonnet bump stops - (one missing)

 

I need to empty it and clean it.

remove the manky headlining and dump it in the bin

take off the side plastic body kit to check rust on the body and facilitate welding

scrape the lacquer off the front

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Ace.

You really scored there. That's going to be roadlegal for virtually no money.

I like that. A lot.

Congrats on an excellent buy

 

Agree it's a deal........but reckon it will cost at least 3xvirtuallyno money before done. I can vouch for how units of virtually no money add up quite quickly to become Significant Sums.(capitals supplied by Mrs Alf)

 

Anyway....got it running yet?

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OK, before cooking dinner (stir fry with egg noodles, chicken sweet & sour sauce), I spent 20 mins outside.

 

Well, what did I do?

 

I removed the manky headliner and am now rather rusty ...

 

and I brushed down the rusty snowed on seats, and they're much fresher.

 

16855083422_99836623ac_z.jpgIMG_1161 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

the back looks tidier and I am having a bonfire shortly.

 

16855209021_54753a733c_z.jpgIMG_1165 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

spare wheel is where it should be.

 

16233905094_0cd5a45e62_z.jpgIMG_1168 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

I think my motorhome body cleaning liquid is going to be used on this!

 

16670132799_d2f7c33ef1_z.jpgIMG_1167 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

and the inside will be painted.

 

16668858210_59d1d7e576_z.jpgIMG_1162 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

found a cubby hole forward of the offside rear wheel

 

16855079082_ed1d663161_z.jpgUMM Alter II J803 HFE by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

16855212231_cd1fe7d1d7_z.jpgIMG_1160 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

they all do that. Sir!

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the first part of 'next to nothing' has been spent! £43.95 for a nice chunky 096 battery delivered to the door! Thought about taking my two dead batteries to the scrappies and sorting out a secondhand one but bought a useful size that fits other vehicles ...

 

I've been cleaning out the front and it's becoming much more pleasant too. Beyona proper hoover out, and a clean of the carpets and the dash, I think I'll get away lightly in there. 

 

Haven't got much time to play with it as I have to work and pay some bills but itching to be out and attacking it. Am going to pressure wash it underneath later and see how much floods in! And what state the chassis is in under the light coating of dirt. 

 

 

Costs so far

 

£200 - purchase price

£140 - delivery

£43.95 - battery

(£0.08) - found in passenger compartment so far - more to find I reckon!

 

You too could be as clean as this ... before

 

16647578247_1004ed09e0_z.jpgIMG_1124 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

 

 

and after five seconds with a baby wipe ...

 

16655915887_3aaa5cf697_z.jpgIMG_1169 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

 

first go for the heater, and yes, that is a digital clock! Posh or what!!

 

16655912767_99f3bc4330_z.jpgIMG_1170 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

 

and here is what it looked like before!

 

16668736179_7562b4b56e_z.jpgIMG_1126 by messerschmitt owner, on Flickr

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my wife's friend asked her last night how I got away with buying the UMM because she thought SWMBO would have killed me for it - but my wife said to her

 

'It was because I asked to have it and it wasn't expensive'.

 

I'm going to try that more often, rather than them just turn up ...

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1991 makes it quite nice compared to the other offroaders on the market back then. But during the 1990s, they massively lost track. 

 

Just found out on wikipedia that the Alter II was a sportscar. Almost...

 

In 1992 six models came with BMW engines. 4 with the M21 2.4 Turbodiesel engine with 116PS, 1 with the M51 2.5 tds engine with 145PS and one with the M50 2.5 petrol engine with 192PS.

 

 

Imagine driving a Alter II25i with 192 hp. Scary.  :mrgreen:

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