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8 minutes ago, DSdriver said:

You have to consider that the fore-runner of the DS and many other cars of that time had semaphore indicators which were up the top of the B pillar. Because their fore-runner was hand signals i.e. the driver sticking his arm out of the window which was still part of my driving test in the late 1960s.

its still part of the test today! :) 

at least in the theory test part some of the questions you are asked/quizzed on is on hand signals 

I don't think they do anything about them in the practical test, however if you turned up to take your test in a car with no indicators then I imagine the examiner would be looking for correct hand single usage!

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3 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

.... if you turned up to take your test in a car with no indicators then I imagine the examiner would be looking for correct hand single usage!

Thanks to modern car design, I doubt anyone can spot a left-turn hand signal past all the rows of headrests. 

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3 minutes ago, Tadhg Tiogar said:

Thanks to modern car design, I doubt anyone can spot a left-turn hand signal past all the rows of headrests. 

you still stick your hand out the right hand side of the car, ya just wave it around in in a circular motion :) 

(although I do wonder just how many people on the road know what hand/arm signals are!)

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2 hours ago, DSdriver said:

No, that was a different arm motion.

Apologies to 6cylinder for the thread hijack, perhaps a mod could move all this to an new thread

I dont recall seeing one for overtake, I think they got rid of any sort of "you can go" messages etc

because there's a chance you could tell someone "yeah over take" or "go ahead" when its safe not and then they have a crash, because they were just trusting your signal and not actually paying attention if its safe to go or not!

 

37 minutes ago, Three Speed said:

My DS has regular 21W bulbs in the indicators. I have to give the rear offside one a bit of a thump every now and again as it is prone to not working. Must give it a clean.

I wonder now whats in the other indicator! :)  @Six-cylinder

18 hours ago, richardmorris said:

I expect that someone shoved in something that fitted and worked many years ago in France. At least the new one will be brighter.

yeah it makes sense then its a much older looking bulbs could of easily been random old stock fitted in the 1970's! which would explain why it looks like its from the 1940s/1950s, something id expect from/for a traction avant rather then a DS! 

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1 hour ago, LightBulbFun said:

I dont recall seeing one for overtake, I think they got rid of any sort of "you can go" messages etc

because there's a chance you could tell someone "yeah over take" or "go ahead" when its safe not and then they have a crash, because they were just trusting your signal and not actually paying attention if its safe to go or not!

 

I wonder now whats in the other indicator! :)  @Six-cylinder

yeah it makes sense then its a much older looking bulbs could of easily been random old stock fitted in the 1970's! which would explain why it looks like its from the 1940s/1950s, something id expect from/for a traction avant rather then a DS! 

hand signals should be to inform other road users of YOUR intentions, not to tell others what you want them to do. Same reason flashing your lights, means danger, I'm still here, rather than the universally acknowledged (which will get you a demerit point on the driving test) of you go first.  Hand signals were part of my cycling proficiency in the late 1970s (including the flapping arm coming to a stop manouvre).  In France putting your right indicator on, when on a long straight road is generally understood to be "ok overtake if you're in such a hurry". Use it quite a bit myself as I'm there to relax, not to take part in death race 2000.

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Some trucks on the continent had a green light on the back which was lit by the driver to indicate when it was safe to overtake which was especially useful on narrow mountain roads with hairpin bends - as soon as they were around the bend and could see the next straight bit was clear on would come the light. Much better than you pulling out to have a look and getting destroyed by something oncoming, especially useful if you were in a RHD car and had to pull right out to see.

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2 hours ago, DSdriver said:

Some trucks on the continent had a green light on the back which was lit by the driver to indicate when it was safe to overtake which was especially useful on narrow mountain roads with hairpin bends - as soon as they were around the bend and could see the next straight bit was clear on would come the light. Much better than you pulling out to have a look and getting destroyed by something oncoming, especially useful if you were in a RHD car and had to pull right out to see.

As a child I was driven thousands of miles around Europe, but my father's RHD car had a Mother fitted! Yes Father thrust her out to face on coming traffic she would scream his name. The closeness and speed of the oncoming vehicle could be judged by how quickly the scream came and at what volume!

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Another essential journey today so another chance to exercise one of our cars, this time I choose to take the AX 14TRS.

Not quite as straight forward as I hoped as it would not idle on the way there, but started running sweetly as I arrived in Oxford. On the way home it would not idle while I drove out of Oxford, then fine until I got home and it played up again. I guess another carb clean is on the agenda!

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Today's drive involved going past the stricken VP1500 and as I knew there were car mags in the boot for me to pick up that had now been quarantined for over a week, I rang the garage so they could unlock it for me and he told me they were still working and he was planning to take the clutch apart next week to see what is wrong with it.

I had forgotten how nice the 735i is to drive and the interior at least is still clean thanks to @Andyrew efforts. It has quite a loud solid rattle from the n-s rear, when I had it serviced and MOTed I asked them to look out for it and no fault found. Andyrew initially thought it was the rear blind as he extended it and the noise went away, but then came back. He thinks it is a top mount at the rear and even bought me one as a present. Today I lowered the blind and the noise went away so I need somebody to sit in the back and hold the blind while I drive.

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21 hours ago, Six-cylinder said:

Today's drive involved going past the stricken VP1500 and as I knew there were car mags in the boot for me to pick up that had now been quarantined for over a week, I rang the garage so they could unlock it for me and he told me they were still working and he was planning to take the clutch apart next week to see what is wrong with it.

I had forgotten how nice the 735i is to drive and the interior at least is still clean thanks to @Andyrew efforts. It has quite a loud solid rattle from the n-s rear, when I had it serviced and MOTed I asked them to look out for it and no fault found. Andyrew initially thought it was the rear blind as he extended it and the noise went away, but then came back. He thinks it is a top mount at the rear and even bought me one as a present. Today I lowered the blind and the noise went away so I need somebody to sit in the back and hold the blind while I drive.

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Peter sellars played a similar trick on spike Milligan when he found a rattle in the back of his new  Chinese eye rolls. Convinced him to get in the boot and listen while he bounced up and down the kerb.  

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Not sure if this is the best place for this, but I know there are a lot of Citroen fans who frequent this thread. So I'll leave this video here:

If you haven't seen the channel before, Ian Tyrrell is a Lamborghini and other exotica specialist of classic cars. Incredible depth of knowledge he's given on the videos. Not many as he has only just started making them - spurred on from Harry's Garage channel where Harry Metcalfe has done a series of videos on his Espada engine rebuild. 

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2 hours ago, SiC said:

Not sure if this is the best place for this, but I know there are a lot of Citroen fans who frequent this thread. So I'll leave this video here:

 

Saw this earlier in the afternoon.

Already wondering what brand of hair gel he uses......

He wants fifteen grand for it.....

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8 hours ago, LightBulbFun said:

I noticed Molly is showing a recently issued V5, I assume the V5 has recently been applied for then? :) 

Well spotted! Yes, it was on the 'to do' list for a while, then finally I got around to it! :-)

The DVLA sent a letter a week or so back to say that it was being processed, but the actual V5 hasn't arrived yet. Our local postal service is now caching mail and delivering it every so often, rather than every day, so I would think it will be in a bundle of letters to be delivered next week.

How many previous keepers are there? I got in touch with the previous-but-one owner a few weeks ago. She was pleased to hear that Molly was intended for restoration and use on the road again. I gather she and her husband bought Molly from Unigate in the late 1980s or early 1990s to use with their own farm-based dairy business. They had a float each and hers was Molly. She said they used to race them against each other and Molly was the fastest! :-)

The chap from whom I bought Molly got it directly from her. He didn't register it with the DVLA as far as I know, so I'd expect to be the third keeper, unless W&E registered it before Unigate.

I have also been in touch with the Manager at the Unigate depot at which Molly worked, so with luck I have contact with the full set of keepers and can get a proper history put together in due course.

 

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57 minutes ago, Mrs6C said:

Well spotted! Yes, it was on the 'to do' list for a while, then finally I got around to it! :-)

The DVLA sent a letter a week or so back to say that it was being processed, but the actual V5 hasn't arrived yet. Our local postal service is now caching mail and delivering it every so often, rather than every day, so I would think it will be in a bundle of letters to be delivered next week.

How many previous keepers are there? I got in touch with the previous-but-one owner a few weeks ago. She was pleased to hear that Molly was intended for restoration and use on the road again. I gather she and her husband bought Molly from Unigate in the late 1980s or early 1990s to use with their own farm-based dairy business. They had a float each and hers was Molly. She said they used to race them against each other and Molly was the fastest! :-)

The chap from whom I bought Molly got it directly from her. He didn't register it with the DVLA as far as I know, so I'd expect to be the third keeper, unless W&E registered it before Unigate.

I have also been in touch with the Manager at the Unigate depot at which Molly worked, so with luck I have contact with the full set of keepers and can get a proper history put together in due course.

 

I think there's a few of us who'd like to have a go at playing Pat Mustard.

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5 hours ago, Mrs6C said:

Well spotted! Yes, it was on the 'to do' list for a while, then finally I got around to it! :-)

The DVLA sent a letter a week or so back to say that it was being processed, but the actual V5 hasn't arrived yet. Our local postal service is now caching mail and delivering it every so often, rather than every day, so I would think it will be in a bundle of letters to be delivered next week.

How many previous keepers are there? I got in touch with the previous-but-one owner a few weeks ago. She was pleased to hear that Molly was intended for restoration and use on the road again. I gather she and her husband bought Molly from Unigate in the late 1980s or early 1990s to use with their own farm-based dairy business. They had a float each and hers was Molly. She said they used to race them against each other and Molly was the fastest! :-)

The chap from whom I bought Molly got it directly from her. He didn't register it with the DVLA as far as I know, so I'd expect to be the third keeper, unless W&E registered it before Unigate.

I have also been in touch with the Manager at the Unigate depot at which Molly worked, so with luck I have contact with the full set of keepers and can get a proper history put together in due course.

ah cool glad things are going relatively smoothly for you :) (still no movement on REV's V5 sadly)

thats cool that you know the previous keepers :) was it via an old V5 or the previous owner telling you of the previous keeper? :) 

still showing 4 keepers (the tool as mentioned does lag behind a few days)

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but once the tool updates you should show as the 5th keeper :) (it will be interesting to see what the keeper acquisition date says given you got her back In November 2019)

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