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On 2/4/2020 at 3:57 PM, NorfolkNWeigh said:

All I remember of these was that Ford decided to drive some , along with some Mavericks . From London to New York, a little ambitious and judging by the fact there don't seem to be any New York pictures in google images , presumably they failed and everything is at the bottom of The Bering Strait.

There was a documentary that followed the preparation and explained that some sort of amphibious tank thing was going to tow the cars across the Strait, but I never saw anything after the initial launch.

It appears that the twin of the Mondeo in your pics lives just outside Belfast now...

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Looks like they made it to Noo Yawk after all.

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Not done much on the road since, mind... I think this one has been at the Ulster Folk & Transport Museum since the mid-90s.

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Actually, on the topic of unknown/barely known cars, here's another from the Ulster Transport Museum's collection - the DAWB 6.

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Anyone?

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Nope, not one I'd heard of either... turns out it's a handbuilt one-off.

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Rather incredibly, this special was built between 1954 and 1962.

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Looks quite a bit more recent than that, I'd reckon.

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Quite a few unique styling features, like the lights; you'd think this was a styling exercise by Vignale or Ghia, rather than something knocked together by a couple of fellas from East Belfast in their free time.

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Not sure I'd call a six-cylinder engine 'unique' - unless they machined and built it themselves from scratch, which is quite possible.

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Nice job, lads. 

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Also nice that, after all the work, it didn't end up dumped behind a garage to rot into the ground!

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34 minutes ago, Datsuncog said:

Not sure I'd call a six-cylinder engine 'unique' - unless they machined and built it themselves from scratch, which is quite possible.

Guess what? Yup, they did. It has a transverse in-line six, aircooled, of course. The drive to the (uh-huh) scratch built gearbox is taken from the centre of the crank and run down to the gearbox.

I have coveted this car for many, many years and even went to Belfast just to see it. There is an article on it in Classic Cars from around 1995 I think which goes into great detail of the build. 

After that, he built a boat. You can guess how that went.

To me, this is the pinnacle of one bloke in shed, striving away for perfection and realising their dream. The actual car becomes immaterial - but it does become a lasting monument to their skill and devotion to engineering.

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26 minutes ago, Inspector Morose said:

There is an article on it in Classic Cars from around 1995 I think which goes into great detail of the build. 

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Never seen it in the flesh, but I can't stop looking at photos of the donk

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On 1/27/2020 at 9:01 PM, cort1977 said:

Ssangyong chairman.

Kind of a 7 series/ A8 copy.

As a not very interesting fact I think the FAA in the plate refers to the Angolan air force.

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Close but no cigar, with the 7 series/A8 comment, these are based on a W220 S class.
The earlier one looked very similar to a first generation Lexus LS, and was based on the W124. 

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Anyone for a Shanghai SH7181? It never made it into production but in 1989 Shanghai Auto and the Shanghai Institute of Tractor Research decided to try and build China's first ever MPV to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the PRC. Obviously it was VW Santana based. 

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From the always intriguing carnewschina.com... 

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On 2/3/2020 at 3:01 PM, Macscrooge said:

The mighty Daihatsu Copen!  Powered, if I recall correctly, by a 1-litre 3-pot turbo!  I had one as a loaner for a day. Luckily it was dry as I’m 6foot2 and could only get in the little  fu**er by lowering the roof. Fun though, in rather a ‘honey I shrank the MX-5’ way. 

The later ones had an NA 1.3.

I really like Copens.

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DAWB 6...

22 hours ago, Inspector Morose said:

I have coveted this car for many, many years and even went to Belfast just to see it. There is an article on it in Classic Cars from around 1995 I think which goes into great detail of the build. 

Crikey, that's dedication!

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Guess what? Yup, they did. It has a transverse in-line six, aircooled, of course. The drive to the (uh-huh) scratch built gearbox is taken from the centre of the crank and run down to the gearbox.

To me, this is the pinnacle of one bloke in shed, striving away for perfection and realising their dream. The actual car becomes immaterial - but it does become a lasting monument to their skill and devotion to engineering.

That handmade transverse air-cooled in-line six is truly jaw-dropping; even more so than the admittedly fantastic bodywork.

 

21 hours ago, flat4alfa said:

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Never seen it in the flesh, but I can't stop looking at photos of the donk

Cheers for those scans - the UTM really needs to have more info available about this, and absolutely a picture of the engine.

As it is, it's crammed in to the display and quite badly lit (hence my crappy pics). Information is limited to the small info board in front of it, which I've shown in its limited totality.

 

Having read that article, I reckon the DAWB 6 should be the centrepiece of the museum's collection - rather than their embarrassingly shabby example of a De Lorean DMC-12, held together with dust and gaffer tape...

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(though they do also have an Italdesign styling prototype in the gallery)

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Different window lines on the other side; wheels too.

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Wheels are actually just a paper design glued onto a flat hubcap.

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Did I mention the museum's lighting is rubbish?

 

Actually, maybe worth mentioning the car lurking behind too - it's a locally-built-under-licence Fuldamobil, sold as the Nobel 200 microcar.

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Not the only car to be built in Newtownards, either - Clan Crusader moulds were, for a few years, set up in a unit on the Jubilee Road and a couple of hundred examples were knocked out before the concern folded in 1987.

Interestingly, aside from the standard Imp-engined Crusader, the NI manufacturers also developed the Clan Clover, with a 1.5 Alfa Romeo flat-four engine mid-mounted.

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Apparently, it was a bit of a goer with a 0-60 time of 7 seconds, but only 26 were built before the business hit the buffers.

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So there we go - Norn Iron cars, which not many (including me) knew existed...

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On 2/3/2020 at 12:21 PM, martc said:

 The FIAT Tipo Sedan may be another unknown car to some viewers as we only get the hatchback and estate here.

 

Oh really?

https://www.arnoldclark.com/nearly-new-cars/fiat/tipo/1-4-easy-4dr/2019/ref/arnbp-n-19636

 

This knowledge only comes from a conversation with @17-Coffees and @rantingYoof recently. We found out there were several Tipo saloons for sale at the Aberdeen branch of Arnold Shark, all pre-reg, but not registered in this area, or even Scotland!

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48 minutes ago, Asimo said:

There is just something about that to make me think "why didn't the Marina Coupe look like this?" 

Perhaps it is the proportions. 

Or maybe the door handles.

The original sketches kinda did...but I expect it was all cheaply engineered and compromised out. For example - that windscreen looks bonded to get those sharp corner angles whereas I think the Marina's is standard flange and rubber which means rounder corners?

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Ford managed to do sharp corners with flange-and-rubber on the Cortina front screen, no reason BL couldn't do the same.  However, cost-cutting may have a part since a round-corner type means you can use a continuous extrusion for the seal and just one joiner for the chrome insert, whereas square corner seals need more bits, which usually means more cost.

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I own one, albeit the bigger 1430. Bought in a Belgium & A framed to the uk a few years back - it’s “ time to shine “ has finally arrived...

Actually, my eldest is currently working on it, at home, currently. He freeing off a very stiff engine, sadly neglected since acquisition. 

its an interesting mix of Fiat 128 3 p & Seat inept enthusiasm. Stuff that should be simple, isn’t -& vice versa. Just like the Ronda, frankly. 

its likely the screen will be coming out in the next few weeks, for adjacent rust repairs - so I can update then - if interested. 

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9 hours ago, Supernaut said:

 

Oh really?

https://www.arnoldclark.com/nearly-new-cars/fiat/tipo/1-4-easy-4dr/2019/ref/arnbp-n-19636

 

This knowledge only comes from a conversation with @17-Coffees and @rantingYoof recently. We found out there were several Tipo saloons for sale at the Aberdeen branch of Arnold Shark, all pre-reg, but not registered in this area, or even Scotland!

 

Fuck off with reminding me they exist!  You know how tempting they are to me! ?

 A Smoll saloon with an okay engine. More economic and comfy than the Abarth is! As Supernaut said, Aberdeen was showing as having a few pre-reg ones in stock on both AS and AutoTrader! I'm keeping an eye on them as in a years time I would be bloody tempted if new/approved used prices are what I think they will be! (Low as fuck)

With regard to them being Irish imports being flogged by AS? Fiat list it on there UK website! Yes, they actually though there's a market for a small, Fiat saloon in the UK... ?

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