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On 8/3/2022 at 5:05 PM, motorpunk said:

I know there's some weird hangup in some European countries about hatchbacks being less desirable than saloons, as hatchbacks hint at practicality, apparently. Maybe that. 

I asked someone in a cold European country. The answer was that when the boot was being loaded, no interior heat was lost.

Makes sense really. 😎

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On 8/6/2022 at 3:50 PM, Leyland Worldmaster said:

I asked someone in a cold European country. The answer was that when the boot was being loaded, no interior heat was lost.

Makes sense really. 😎

That does not make sense. This one only for the Spanish.

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Popular here are booted versions of

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20 hours ago, Timewaster said:

That may look like a "modern estate car" but the old Ford Pop looking wheels are a bit of a giveaway.

I reckon that's exactly what it's based on - if the seller hadn't wanted £10 for that pile of very tatty mags, I'd have bought them and found out

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On 03/08/2022 at 17:05, motorpunk said:

I know there's some weird hangup in some European countries about hatchbacks being less desirable than saloons, as hatchbacks hint at practicality, apparently. Maybe that. 

Some other countries still have a preference for saloons, goodness knows why (says the owner of a Pug 407 saloon) Turkey was one country that I noticed hatchbacks being very low in numbers. They have, for example; the Peugeot 301, Fiat Egea and my most favourite, the Fiat Linea amongst others:

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15 hours ago, Mr Pastry said:

It's a Naco.  Ford special obvs, very obscure one, can't find much online.   

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Formed by an ex-Falcon employee named Laurie Salmon in 1959 and built in Epping (the 'Naco Works' is still standing). They also offered a saloon version but I doubt many were built. One known survivor of the estate, although I have photos in my files of a second one abandoned in woodland during the 1980s which wasn't rescued, sadly.

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Interesting that the CM project car was the one used in the firm's publicity (although the same reg is on both cars so maybe they just swapped the reg round multiple examples!)

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The survivor is a pretty well-known trials car with a pretty hot engine with OHV conversion etc. This is it when it was first discovered (late 70s I think) before restoration

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And as it is now

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19 minutes ago, barrett said:

Formed by an ex-Falcon employee named Laurie Salmon in 1959 and built in Epping (the 'Naco Works' is still standing). They also offered a saloon version but I doubt many were built. One known survivor of the estate, although I have photos in my files of a second one abandoned in woodland during the 1980s which wasn't rescued, sadly.

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Interesting that the CM project car was the one used in the firm's publicity (although the same reg is on both cars so maybe they just swapped the reg round multiple examples!)

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The survivor is a pretty well-known trials car with a pretty hot engine with OHV conversion etc. This is it when it was first discovered (late 70s I think) before restoration

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And as it is now

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Yes I believe I saw the survivor, and it did look quite well sorted.  I doubt if many were made.  What is the windscreen from?

National Historic Specials meeting at Cotswold Wildlife Park this Sunday 14th, IIRC.

Today's restorations are mostly far better built and finished than they were originally. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, martc said:

I though Reliant Regal but they are too shallow, but I did discover that the Regal VI has the same screen front and back; nothing to do with this discussion but what a phun phact!

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That sure is a phun phact!  I thought the Naco screen might be 100E, as are the tail lights - in fact the whole thing is a fake 100E, which makes it a bit pointless because by 1960 you could probably buy a genuine used 100E for the cost of building a Naco.

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51 minutes ago, Mr Pastry said:

That sure is a phun phact!  I thought the Naco screen might be 100E, as are the tail lights - in fact the whole thing is a fake 100E, which makes it a bit pointless because by 1960 you could probably buy a genuine used 100E for the cost of building a Naco.

Looking at the Pops and Prefects I wonder if the screen is from a 103E 'Sit Up and Beg' which sort of makes sense as the wheels are certainly from one...

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3 hours ago, lesapandre said:

The boot is to do with security - makes it more difficult to rob a car - also car stays marginally cooler than in a glassy hatchback.

The market for the Renault 7 must have been mega conservative: not only a traditional boot but they ditched the R5’s innovative plastic bumpers too. 

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