Yoss Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 I knew I'd seen it somewhere, probably the Club Triumph magazine. So started googling Triumph prototypes that I could remember off the top of my head. This brought me to Canley Classics site which has some excellent archive materiel on it and voilà. See also the TRX... ... based on the old Bergerac type Roadster. And the Italia... ...which is a TR3 underneath but you can see the TR4 coming through. BL Bloke, RayMK, Dick Longbridge and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, Volksy said: Wow... Another missed opportunity! Yes, if only they'd had the money. Story of the British car industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volksy Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 What year was it? As it does look like BMW may have been influenced for the CS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myglaren Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 BL Bloke, bunglebus and RayMK 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 twas smashing the crap out of the DVLA/my special tool searching through AC Acedes Model 57 chassis numbers as you do when this popped up Steam! on an 07 plate what the actual... little bit of googling later shows it to be one of these working (and road registered!) scale model of a traction engine https://flic.kr/p/29v4pU6 its so amusing/weird to think of/see a steam propelled vehicle on modern plates LOL (kinda surprised they where given modern plates id of half expected such a thing to end up on a Q plate) how do you even go about registering such a vehicle I wonder... vulgalour, spartacus, Yoss and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulgalour Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Courtesy of the eBay thread, the Lloyd 650. LightBulbFun, warch, RayMK and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Snipes Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 5 hours ago, LightBulbFun said: twas smashing the crap out of the DVLA/my special tool searching through AC Acedes Model 57 chassis numbers as you do when this popped up Steam! on an 07 plate what the actual... little bit of googling later shows it to be one of these working (and road registered!) scale model of a traction engine https://flic.kr/p/29v4pU6 its so amusing/weird to think of/see a steam propelled vehicle on modern plates LOL (kinda surprised they where given modern plates id of half expected such a thing to end up on a Q plate) how do you even go about registering such a vehicle I wonder... As you're probably aware Q is simply when the age of the vehicle can't be properly determined. I'd think type approval would be a much bigger issue, but I'm assuming that little engine is subject to the same standards as any other new vehicle? LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 8 hours ago, Volksy said: What year was it? As it does look like BMW may have been influenced for the CS? The Vittesse was 1964, the Italia apparently (according to Wikipedia) they built 330 of them between '59 and '63. They were both Michelotti designs though it seems the Italia was built by Vignale. I think even that has shades of BMW CSL in the cab area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard_FM Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 7 hours ago, vulgalour said: Courtesy of the eBay thread, the Lloyd 650. Lloyd made almost all the components for their cars rather than use off the shelf parts, which makes owning them now a challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martc Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 11 hours ago, LightBulbFun said: twas smashing the crap out of the DVLA/my special tool searching through AC Acedes Model 57 chassis numbers as you do when this popped up Steam! on an 07 plate what the actual... little bit of googling later shows it to be one of these working (and road registered!) scale model of a traction engine https://flic.kr/p/29v4pU6 its so amusing/weird to think of/see a steam propelled vehicle on modern plates LOL (kinda surprised they where given modern plates id of half expected such a thing to end up on a Q plate) how do you even go about registering such a vehicle I wonder... As a frequenter of steam rallies etc 'modern' registered miniature engines are fairly common. I don't think that registering them is too much of a pain as the Construction and Use Regs for steam road vehicles haven't altered much since about eleventy million years ago. Basically it amounts to not allowing ashes and embers to escape. And something about lights and whistles. Getting your boiler certificate is another matter though. Here's another one taken at random from the t'interwebs. Interestingly this one is registered as a 'Burrel Min. Wagon'. Burrel were a famous builder of steam traction engines who went bust in 1928. I wouldn't have thought you could use another makers name (unless of course the builder of this is called 'Burrel'). Sir Snipes and LightBulbFun 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, martc said: As a frequenter of steam rallies etc 'modern' registered miniature engines are fairly common. I don't think that registering them is too much of a pain as the Construction and Use Regs for steam road vehicles haven't altered much since about eleventy million years ago. Basically it amounts to not allowing ashes and embers to escape. And something about lights and whistles. Getting your boiler certificate is another matter though. Here's another one taken at random from the t'interwebs. Interestingly this one is registered as a 'Burrel Min. Wagon'. Burrel were a famous builder of steam traction engines who went bust in 1928. I wouldn't have thought you could use another makers name (unless of course the builder of this is called 'Burrel'). interesting stuff Yeah I was wondering about that, they would not exactly be up to todays crash test regulations for example! (mind if you fired a traction engine at a concert/steel block at 30Mph it probably would just go straight through it!) I knew old steam vehicles where exempt from a lot of stuff, but i was not sure what the low down was for registering something newly built! I guess all the modern regulations that you have to get kit cars etc through just dont apply to steam propelled vehicles! (I feel contractually obliged to tag @JimH LOL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimH Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Boiler insurance for models isn't that big a gyp. The standards refer to pressure/volume ratios and most models fall into the "sound engineering practice" category rather than having to meet any modern design criteria. I have my own views on this as there appears to be a number of people playing fast and loose with what is or isn't a model. Which sort ofreminds me... martc and LightBulbFun 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martc Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 1 hour ago, LightBulbFun said: I guess all the modern regulations that you have to get kit cars etc through just dont apply to steam propelled vehicles! You're right - the regulations apply to specific classes of vehicles, and it's the most recent regs that count. And I guess anything to do with steam won't have been updated for donkeys years. I've had a quick snoop on the web and found this - http://shirevillageinns.co.uk/register/rmte.htm It looks like someone built a model engine, got it's boiler certified then insured. The DVLA paid a visit and duly registered it and issued a tax disc. Quote - 'the inspection is purely to confirm the identity of the vehicle, not a safety or road-worthiness inspection'. In other words if it looked like what it should do it was registered! But this was in 2008. LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteersWithThrottle Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Crash test regulations only really apply to volume manufacturers. For stuff like this, SVA (single vehicle approval) via VOSA would be the usual route, iirc. LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkNWeigh Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 I’m so old and spent all my life looking at anything printed or now online about all cars, it’s a surprise when I don’t recognise a particular photograph let alone a car I wasn’t aware of. I get really excited when it happens, and today whilst watching ‘ Hunters’ on Amazon I saw characters getting out of a black sedan with suicide rear doors , that wasn’t a Lincoln Continental, it looked from the back , like aThunderbird. MarvinsMom, spartacus, chaseracer and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglebus Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 I guess like most Americans, it got fat over the years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadworkUK Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Oddly, the '67 and '68 were my favourite generation of Thunderbird. That 4-door – suicide doors aside – pretty much offered the exact same package as the Mercedes CLS did forty years later. AND it had sequential rear lights and concealed headlights. NorfolkNWeigh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard_FM Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 3 hours ago, bunglebus said: I guess like most Americans, it got fat over the years Some had a radical downsize in the mid 1970s, though the results were not pretty if the Mustang II is anything to go by. Prince drove one of those late 1960s Thunderbirds in the video for Alphabet Street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Tidybeard Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 the ABM Orbit? allegedly the bonnet wouldn't open due to the mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglebus Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 6 hours ago, Richard_FM said: Some had a radical downsize in the mid 1970s, though the results were not pretty if the Mustang II is anything to go by Yeah they're a bit of an ugly duckling, the oil crisis and spiralling insurance on muscle cars ruining American car design for a long time. VW and Honda must have made a killing in the 70s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglebus Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 4 hours ago, Noel Tidybeard said: the ABM Orbit? allegedly the bonnet wouldn't open due to the mods Made for a film - think those are the only two made if my memory serves me correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernaut Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 13 hours ago, NorfolkNWeigh said: I’m so old and spent all my life looking at anything printed or now online about all cars, it’s a surprise when I don’t recognise a particular photograph let alone a car I wasn’t aware of. I get really excited when it happens, and today whilst watching ‘ Hunters’ on Amazon I saw characters getting out of a black sedan with suicide rear doors , that wasn’t a Lincoln Continental, it looked from the back , like aThunderbird. I love it! Especially in that shade of purple! Glorious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volksy Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 I like the Mustang II, and that thunderbird is hot! Richard_FM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austat Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 1967 Fiat 125 Executive concept: I wonder if Toyo Kogyo used this as inspiration for the Mazda 1200 Coupe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUNO Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Austat said: 1967 Fiat 125 Executive concept: I wonder if Toyo Kogyo used this as inspiration for the Mazda 1200 Coupe? Close plate to my 1970 Mini, it was YCM 793 Austat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asimo Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Hyundai Grandeur? Well 'tis new to me, I was trawling Autotrader for under £2500 and over 3 litres...... https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201910233611953 Yoss, bunglebus, Aston Martin and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard_FM Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 7 hours ago, Austat said: 1967 Fiat 125 Executive concept: I wonder if Toyo Kogyo used this as inspiration for the Mazda 1200 Coupe? It certainly looks very 1970s Japanese coupe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1duck Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Vauxhall corsa convertible... this one is for sale on facebook at the minute, imported from australia so is a holden barina or some shit, but apparently they only made and sold 60 corsa convertibles in the UK to start with, i mean why the fuck you'd want one is beyond me, in australia maybe...but not here surely.https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/910792672768586/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
face Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 2 hours ago, 1duck said: i mean why the fuck you'd want one is beyond me Fo pull'n in da clunge boi. Sir Snipes and Aston Martin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKT Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 5 hours ago, 1duck said: Vauxhall corsa convertible... this one is for sale on facebook at the minute, imported from australia so is a holden barina or some shit, but apparently they only made and sold 60 corsa convertibles in the UK to start with, i mean why the fuck you'd want one is beyond me, in australia maybe...but not here surely.https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/910792672768586/ Surprised to hear they only made sixty, I've seen two in the last year or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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