artdjones Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Shite Ron and busmansholiday 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artdjones Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Baseball has always been more popular than you might think in South Wales. Shite Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkNWeigh Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 4 hours ago, JeeExEll said: This is a particularly frustrating pic. 1963 Manchester. Who owned the Caddy? My first guess was Diana Dors, but she had her her Caddy much earlier. i might be her old car, though. JeeExEll and Shite Ron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfg Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Here's a challenge for you .. I'm looking for a photo or any other information about ; F H Brackpool (Motorcycle main agent for BSA / Sunbeam during the 1950's). They were in Forest Hill, London SE23 My two sister-bikes Sunbeams were each dispatched to there in 1953. The one bike (an S7-deluxe in pea-green) was repainted to monochromatic-silver, I believed to be displayed for the coronation of Elizabeth II on 2nd June 1953. The third of June was a bank holiday, and my bike was first registered on the 4th. Her sister bike, an S8 model of Sunbeam, also in monochromatic-silver (an original colour only on the S8 model) was registered some five weeks later. Whereabouts / what road in Forest Hill that motorcycle dealers was - I don't know. But here's a (low resolution) photo of Dartmouth Road to get you started . . . And another of Forest Hill .. And of Jack Surtees Motorcycles, "Reading through my motorcycle news news this week and came across a picture of Forest Hill. The photo is an article about the great 2 and 4 wheeled legend John Surtees. The caption reads ' the Surtees family bike shop in Forest Hill. John's father was the main Vincent dealer for south dealer.'. I'm not sure but I'm guessing either Dartmouth road or the top of Kirkdale. Anybody know some more? " reply : " It looks like Sunderland Road (the bit on the South Circular) next to the Railway Telegraph pub. I've looked at it on Google Street View (does this link work http://goo.gl/maps/qYZuR) and the raised pavement and ornate building stonework look the same. " another reply "By the way, not all that far away in Sunderland Road was Harold Daniell, the Norton agent, and previous winner of the Isle of Man TT." That according to the dealers badge was #65 Darmouth Road, Forest Hill. There is now a Bravos Motorcycles - 193 Stanstead Rd Forest Hill, London. But perhaps you sleuth enough to find Brackpool in the 1950's ???? Thanks, Pete JeeExEll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lesapandre Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Bfg said: Here's a challenge for you .. I'm looking for a photo or any other information about ; F H Brackpool (Motorcycle main agent for BSA / Sunbeam during the 1950's). They were in Forest Hill, London SE23 My two sister-bikes Sunbeams were each dispatched to there in 1953. The one bike (an S7-deluxe in pea-green) was repainted to monochromatic-silver, I believed to be displayed for the coronation of Elizabeth II on 2nd June 1953. The third of June was a bank holiday, and my bike was first registered on the 4th. Her sister bike, an S8 model of Sunbeam, also in monochromatic-silver (an original colour only on the S8 model) was registered some five weeks later. Whereabouts / what road in Forest Hill that motorcycle dealers was - I don't know. But here's a (low resolution) photo of Dartmouth Road to get you started . . . And another of Forest Hill .. And of Jack Surtees Motorcycles, "Reading through my motorcycle news news this week and came across a picture of Forest Hill. The photo is an article about the great 2 and 4 wheeled legend John Surtees. The caption reads ' the Surtees family bike shop in Forest Hill. John's father was the main Vincent dealer for south dealer.'. I'm not sure but I'm guessing either Dartmouth road or the top of Kirkdale. Anybody know some more? " reply : " It looks like Sunderland Road (the bit on the South Circular) next to the Railway Telegraph pub. I've looked at it on Google Street View (does this link work http://goo.gl/maps/qYZuR) and the raised pavement and ornate building stonework look the same. " another reply "By the way, not all that far away in Sunderland Road was Harold Daniell, the Norton agent, and previous winner of the Isle of Man TT." That according to the dealers badge was #65 Darmouth Road, Forest Hill. There is now a Bravos Motorcycles - 193 Stanstead Rd Forest Hill, London. But perhaps you sleuth enough to find Brackpool in the 1950's ???? Thanks, Pete An area of London I know pretty well. Lot of nice Victorian architecture - very little redevelopment. Was pretty run down but getting done up slowly. My welder guy is nearby and there is one of London's diminishing car spares places. Nice coffee shop too. The Surtees shop is indeed 2-4 Sunderland Road. Bfg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesapandre Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 This is 65 Dartmouth Road - some evidence of a painted sign at first floor level - can't read it but will take a look next time I am down that way see if it can be read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesapandre Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Brackpools were at 226-228 Stanstead Road - part of the busy South Circular. https://gracesguide.co.uk/F._H._Brackpool_and_Co Possibly a garage or some industrial sheds - now gone alas. I will ask my welder when I see him - he is a mine of local information as he was born in this area. Bfg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesapandre Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 A bit more on Mr Brackpool. https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/18221/lot/214/?category=list I think Brackpool's also sold or repaired cars. A bit more about the site - Brackpool's were still marked as Triumph bike agents in 1962 - but it sounds like the whole lot was redeveloped as a petrol filling station later in the 1960's from the planning history - which probably finally closed the dealership (its not a very big site). Filling station then closed and these flats built. Bfg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesapandre Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Contacting the Forest Hill Society may turn up more. And the London Metropolitan Archives may have more. Hope that's helpful. https://www.foresthillsociety.com/?m=1 https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/history-and-heritage/london-metropolitan-archives Bfg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Bfg said: dont know if its any help or not but heres a higher rez version of that photo, the Car in the photo is a Stanley Harper Mk6 invalid Tricycle produced from 1957 to 1960 Bfg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesapandre Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said: dont know if its any help or not but heres a higher rez version of that photo, the Car in the photo is a Stanley Harper Mk6 invalid Tricycle produced from 1957 to 1960 Still pretty similar these days. Suffering a bit in the recent shopping downturn in the past few years - quite a few businesses have changed hands/closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bfg Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 ^ Funny how people used to do that.. stop a holiday bus and get out in the freezing cold to look at and 'feed' a sheep. Oh., the simple pleasures in life.. ..mind you I don't fancy that sheep's chances with the way that chap to the right is looking and smiling. It seems to me as if he's about to put his wellies on .. "I'll take it from here vicar " " ..baah ! " martc, Remspoor and Shite Ron 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3VOM Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 21 hours ago, NorfolkNWeigh said: My first guess was Diana Dors, but she had her her Caddy much earlier. might be her old car, though. Bernard Manning? He used to like Yank stuff and would have been making money from the Embassy Club for about 3-4 years by 1963. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bfg Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, artdjones said: "has just completed the Scandinavian and Sahara Desert Proving Runs" Credit to them for doing those in a single-wheel-at-the-front 3-wheeler. Both destination had more than their fair share of rutted roads back in the day. At least it were light enough to put back upright when it rolled over ..more than can be said of some modern motorcycles that have gone those ways ! "Petrol up ; 6d per gallon". Outrageous ! ..At that price I'm not surprised their cars needed to get 65 miles per gallon. LightBulbFun, Remspoor, hennabm and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesapandre Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 51 minutes ago, Bfg said: "has just completed the Scandinavian and Sahara Desert Proving Runs" Credit to them for doing those in a single-wheel-at-the-front 3-wheeler. Both destination had more than their fair share of rutted roads back in the day. At least it were light enough to put back upright when it rolled over ..more than can be said of some modern motorcycles that have gone those ways ! "Petrol up ; 6d per gallon". Outrageous ! ..At that price I'm not surprised their cars needed to get 65 miles per gallon. More than can be said for BMC who did little real-life testing on the 1800 - allegedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfg Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 ^ 1800 ..as in land crab ? I thought they were participant ..and reasonably successful in rallying. Don't I remember them in things like the East African Safari rally with spare wheels on their roof ? Remspoor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Remspoor Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 20 hours ago, lesapandre said: More than can be said for BMC who did little real-life testing on the 1800 - allegedly. I recall they did but just not in foreign lands. lesapandre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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