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Do you have any more pics of the beige Isuzu KB camper spotted at distance on the last page? I've never seen one like that before.

 

 

Sorry Joe, that was the only pic I took and a cropped version of it looked crap, so I've nothing else useful to offer. Looks to be a Japanese import and I've seen a few similar versions of the later Isuzu utes, so am thinking there will be better images on-line somewhere.

 

 

On leaving the racing, we weren't able to turn left to re-join the main road back to the camp ground, so had to turn right through into the town then work out what to do from there. This meant we ended up in an industrial estate and saw a few prime specimens, which I vowed to capture the next day. Unfortunately I missed the 1960's Mini suspended on a jack getting a tyre changed but did spot a few others trying to find it.

 

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A Chrysler Valiant  on the right, the Antipodean version of the persecuted car in Duel.

 

 

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Are these Denovo wheels?

 

 

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HZ (I think) Holden, which if it is means that it should handle well, since it has RADIAL TUNED SUSPENSION.

 

 

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Hi Fred.

 

 

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Did anyone have a better range of colours than BL in the 1970's?

 

 

Later that day we rode our bikes along a rail trail, so we took Mrs_Jon's 8 year old 4mp camera with us, as it saved a lot of hassle. Of course, I found some stuff to photograph, so kept leaving her to bimble off in to the distance then catch her up, only to spot something else. One yard was particularly fruitful:

 

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Still plenty of these L200s knocking about, icncluding some 4x4 variants. The Opel connection is completely undisguised on the rear ends of early Commodores.

 

 

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These model-specific wheels deserve a close-up on this Sigma:

 

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Still plenty of these 124s knocking about too, surprisingly. Must've been quite a strong seller for a European car in its time.

 

 

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If anyone restores this, I hope they keep the stripes.

 

 

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Nice Riley but the Ford Econovan was the main spot here, as it's a rebadged Mazda E1600 and this is the first one I'd seen in three and a half years. Exciting stuff!

 

 

That night, our camp site offered up some prime chod.

 

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Bader box, surprisingly.

 

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Non-lowlight Minors are almost as mundane as MGBs but I thought it rude not to take advantage of the facilities laid on by the camp site. Our Hiace in background.

 

 

 

 

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Looks like the split screen one has been off the road as long as it was on it.

 

 

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Hi Wat.

 

 

OK, I'm really sorry for the ultra-low grade quality of the next two shots but it seemed a shame to forego a good spot. Saw something from the corner of my eye as we passed a paddock, so Mrs_Jon grabbed the camera and took some shots but the settings were wrong. Here's the unedited result - can you spot it yet?

 

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And since this isn't CSI, this is the best I could muster.

 

 

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An Austin 1100 with flares, wide rims and off-road tyres!!!

 

 

Saw some laid up trams on the way to see a Penguin colony in Dunedin:

 

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Nice use of a VW advert.

 

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Would look better with some obscure Japanese rims.

 

 

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Too good for here, really.

 

 

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Yo Hirst.

 

 

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Boldy breaking my self imposed rules here but I've never seen an MX-5 (or any other car) wearing these steel wheels before. JDM Triumph Acclaim chic.

 

 

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Escort-sized 1980's car officially smaller than 21st Century Micra.

 

 

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Bloody hell, these things are everywhere. 

 

 

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Almost missed this due to tearaway elderly driver amber gambling. Hold on tight, love.

 

 

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Hi Dicky.

 

 

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Last one for now. Found this by stroke of luck after turning off the main road to visit a cheese factory that looked way less artisan, more Craft Triangles. Seemingly built in the Eastern Bloc quarter of Dunedin. Just to the left, a woman was attempting to load perhaps the biggest dog I have ever seen in to the boot of an Audi RS2. I wonder if this ever travelled the roads here? Still wears its British plates, so bus enthusiasts being the kindly people they are, here's what SRP820N looked like back in the day:

 

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Link here:

 

https://flic.kr/p/kZZvXn

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I thought the only kings coach VR that went to NZ was ODV78M. I've seen a photo of it without a front panel, could it have a replacement? I only ask because this bus is quite significant to me. As a lover of Bristols ( ooh err missus, who isn't?) ODV was the prototype VRT series 3 which was a fairly substantial reworking of the bus, including a fully encapsulated engine, better and stronger angle drive to the back axle, stronger axles and a fair bit more.

The other significant thing was that I was involved in the shipping of it to NZ! A good while ago I was mates with the fellow who did the mechanical work for Kings Coach and used to help him out every now and again along with other humanitarian projects he was involved in (I'll tell a tale of a trip to Romania in an old Jumbulance that was rebuilt in a back yard after a head on crash with a skip lorry). I got a call from him asking to lend him a hand with ODV as it was going abroad. The authorities were being a right pain saying that the bus had to be fumigated and sealed so no plants or animals could be imported along with the bus. In the end, after a full fumigation we completely shrink wrapped the whole bus for its travels down under. I always wondered if it could have survived.

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I thought the only kings coach VR that went to NZ was ODV78M......... I always wondered if it could have survived.

 

 

That's an interesting story, which got me doing a little bit of really basic Googling. First, I tried to remember what the cheese factory was called, so I could work out a location of the bus, which is Hawksbury Village, 35km north of Dunedin. Here's a picture (courtesy of Wikipedia) of the building the Bristol was parked outside, apparently taken in 2008:

 

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As an aside, I take back the jibe about the cheese factory - though very industrial looking, it seems it makes some nice stuff according to their site. Naughty me, judging a book by its cover.

 

Anyway, a bit more searching and I found these 3 pages:

 

http://www.abbey-oceania.org.nz/kingscoach/king_s_coach_history

 

http://www.abbey-oceania.org.nz/kingscoach/technical_details

 

http://www.abbey-oceania.org.nz/kingscoach/odv78m

 

.....that confirm it is indeed ODV78M!

 

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As an extra bonus, have couple of pictures of another Bristol I encountered shortly after arriving here in late 2010.

 

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Was fresh off the boat and I spoke to the owner, an expat who lived in Napier. He and his wife had dreamt of converting a Bristol to a motorhome and had bitten the bullet now their family had grown up. Think it cost something like £15000 to buy and ship over.

 

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Looks like the registration is OME857R. Now, tell me what you can find out about that one!

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You may as well have the carjam details (which are a bit scant) for the Bristol, registered RF2020 over here:

 

http://www.carjam.co.nz/car/?plate=rf2020

 

Oh, and a Flickr link to what it looked like in 2012, confirming that it has had a replacement front (plus Audi RS2 I'd wittered on about):

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/gam-images/7802035436/

 

And this one in its heyday:

 

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And this registry of Bristol VRs in New Zealand, including the one I'd spotted in 2010, which is actually registered OWE857R:

 

http://bcv.robsly.com/nz.html

 

Interesting to see 'yours' was the first to arrive, FPB7. TRENDSETTER!

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 Would love to get over there one day. There was a Trolleybus museum in Foxton (I've no idea where abouts that is) that the, now sadly deceased, owner used to drive the vintage collection round town using Stagecoaches wires and 'leccy. Just sounds like my kind of place really!

 

 

Today really is your lucky day. Here's proof that I've been to Foxton:

 

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And here's some trolley buses:

 

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I liked this one, simply because of the Stagecoach colours which reminded me of the buses knocking about York in the 90's. We saw them on a holiday with friends in December 2012 and Google streetview shows them stored at the same place as of July last year. Address is 65 Main St, visible down the side of the second hand shop with Half Lada - for the life of me, I can't work out how to link from the updated Google Maps.

 

I did see a few trolley buses stored in a yard somewhere along the Highway 1, north of Wellington when we took our south island trip last month, so it looks as if someone's still looking after them. Incidentally, here's what the current Wellington trolley buses look like (courtesy of internet):

 

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I've heard that the whole trolleybus system is on borrowed time however, so if you're interested in coming over and riding one, I'd not hang about. I also read some info somewhere that suggested the above buses were actually built on the chassis of the Volvo ones above (the 3rd axle certainly looks tacked on), so if that's true then kudos to the closet bus nut who sanctioned that!

 

Anyway, I came on here to post some more pics, so will get on with that now.

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What I like about New Zealand is that there are seemingly a few people (though sadly dwindling in numbers) staunchly opposing modern values of new everything, preferring instead to just carry on with stuff until it's unserviceable, then no doubt endure it a bit longer before reluctantly replacing it. This guy probably falls in to that category:

 

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And probably the owner of this (for as long as it remains unstolen):

 

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Don't think much of your new paint job, Trig!  ;-)

 

 

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Just managed to nab this speedy number.

 

 

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Also breaks the mid-80's rules but I liked the shot. Only just misses out, I reckon it's 87/88 vintage.

 

 

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I like how I managed to neither get the car nor the house horizontal on this shot from a steep-ish street. Smooth.

 

 

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Another favourite spot, simply because it retains the dustbin lid trims.

 

 

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I remember being a little 'filter happy' that day, hence the funny looking sky. Although I'm always critical of how red cars look in my photos, this 4x4 L300 was genuinely a strange shade. Again, I reckon the owner of this is easily in their 70's.

 

 

Throughout the trip, I was hoping that I'd come across a garage that dealt in affordable, borderline dull old cars, much like the one seen in the first post. Only thing is, I couldn't remember where it was but knew it was called Hinds. Turns out it's located in a town called Hinds and we were passing through it. Convenient. Not so convenient was the fact that the shop had shut up about 30 mins before we arrived. It also looks like the guy's selling up the business but in all honesty I'm not sure who'd buy it, especially as the town looked quite depressing. A lot of the stock I saw seemed to be on Trademe at the time, too.

 

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I don't think I could accurately describe what colour this Vogue was. Apart from drab.

 

 

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RHD Fiat 1100! I didn't have a wide angle lens on, so had to take two shots to capture what I could see through the locked gate. It was also raining quite hard but I don't mind being a shite martyr and suffering for my art.

 

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I think this is the oldest Holden ute (and probably one of the oldest Holdens) I've ever seen.

 

 

Christchurch now, and we were returning after having taken a trip a few weeks back for a concert. The post-earthquake city is still a newsworthy event but to us north islanders, I don't think we appreciate how devastated the place still is 3 years on, especially the city centre (which contained a lot of old brick buildings). Not New Orleans state of devastation but still pretty bad in many places. Still some nice cars, though (and most of them spotted a few weeks previously on my wife's camera, when we'd travelled light on the 'plane)

 

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Nearly got knocked down snapping this Escort, hence the blur. Was parked in exactly the same spot on our previous visit, so some lucky person's commuter car.

 

 

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This is the VW that the locally famous Wizard of Christchurch potters about in.

 

 

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Took this to show lads back at our station that not even a model of an Iveco is well built.

 

 

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Hi Rab.

 

 

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Busted! Obviously my supposed Ninja skills at looking to concentrate on something banal in the distance whilst taking a photo with a car in full frame isn't that convincing. Worth it though, since it's an FSO disguised in the style of the locally marketed Fiat 125t.

 

 

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Final shot from Christchurch. I like the fact that the sign is at total odds to the actual condition of the city. Therefore I title this work: POST IRONIC.

 

 

 

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HX965 is what car type please????

 

About 15 photos back.

 

Good question Brickwall! I know it's a Holden variant of the HQ model, which changed codename each time it was updated before the HZ model was replaced by the Commodore. For some reason, I've never got to grips with the variations in these models but would have guessed it was a Holden Caprice. Anyway, I did a plate search on carjam.co.nz and found that it was registered as a Chevrolet Caprice, which it clearly is not. Not only that but it's registered as a diesel, with a capacity of 5044cc. Strange, must be a plate of another car boshed on the front. Or so I thought.

 

I took a look at the full size image and noticed that the scripts on the grille are 'CHEVROLET' and 'CAPRICE', so someone's gone to the trouble of officially registering what is blatantly a Holden as a Chevy. Fair enough though, as plenty of people still stick Chevy crosses in the grilles of modern Commodores (and even on the odd Vectra!). 

 

Then I noticed the two stickers in the window - one for the rego and the other to display Road User Charges (RUC). On diesel vehicles, you have to pay a levy for each kilometer travelled, running off the odometer of cars and the hubodometer on heavy vehicles. In return, there's no tax added to diesel at the pumps (about 75p/l at the moment, versus about £1.08 or something a litre for boggo unleaded). Anyway, that points to a diesel conversion at some point. I then remembered that despite my Commodore being converted to a Nissan LD28 diesel (straight 6 2.8L), the cc rating on carjam is still logged as 3300cc, which the old petrol motor was. Therefore, some right mingebag has at some point swapped a 5.0L V8 for a shonky Nissan diesel and renamed it a Chevrolet.

 

Hope that answers your question!

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Good question Brickwall! I know it's a Holden variant of the HQ model, which changed codename each time it was updated before the HZ model was replaced by the Commodore. For some reason, I've never got to grips with the variations in these models but would have guessed it was a Holden Caprice. Anyway, I did a plate search on carjam.co.nz and found that it was registered as a Chevrolet Caprice, which it clearly is not. Not only that but it's registered as a diesel, with a capacity of 5044cc. Strange, must be a plate of another car boshed on the front. Or so I thought.

 

I took a look at the full size image and noticed that the scripts on the grille are 'CHEVROLET' and 'CAPRICE', so someone's gone to the trouble of officially registering what is blatantly a Holden as a Chevy. Fair enough though, as plenty of people still stick Chevy crosses in the grilles of modern Commodores (and even on the odd Vectra!). 

 

Then I noticed the two stickers in the window - one for the rego and the other to display Road User Charges (RUC). On diesel vehicles, you have to pay a levy for each kilometer travelled, running off the odometer of cars and the hubodometer on heavy vehicles. In return, there's no tax added to diesel at the pumps (about 75p/l at the moment, versus about £1.08 or something a litre for boggo unleaded). Anyway, that points to a diesel conversion at some point. I then remembered that despite my Commodore being converted to a Nissan LD28 diesel (straight 6 2.8L), the cc rating on carjam is still logged as 3300cc, which the old petrol motor was. Therefore, some right mingebag has at some point swapped a 5.0L V8 for a shonky Nissan diesel and renamed it a Chevrolet.

 

Hope that answers your question!

 

 

 

Thanks for that.

 

 

The Holden brand was incredibly difficult one to follow concerning models and numbers and equipment. Teh Caprice bit makes it even more confusing as well as many that are imported here and registered are in  fact registered incorrectly.

 

Has it answered my question? Yes, I think so..maybe :lol:

 

Thanks again.

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Yeah, Holden was pretty confusing back in the day and I'm still none the wiser, despite having read many classic car mag articles on the brand - you know, the ones which like to list model names, then perhaps illustrate said model with a small photo. On the next page....

 

Anyway, nice to know that this spotted thread of mine is achieving a little more interest than a couple of my previous efforts.

 

See here:

 

http://autoshite.com/topic/5278-cavs-camera-catches-updated-250310/

 

And here:

 

http://autoshite.com/topic/3232-horopito/

 

Sadly, I had come here to post up the last dregs of my spots but instead I've been roped in to taking a look at a 1986 Mercedes 300TE locally, for someone on another forum, whom I've never met. That said, if anyone gets withdrawal symptoms, I do have some more photos I could put up from my revisit to Horopito a couple of years ago. 

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Thanks for that.

 

 

The Holden brand was incredibly difficult one to follow concerning models and numbers and equipment. Teh Caprice bit makes it even more confusing as well as many that are imported here and registered are in  fact registered incorrectly.

 

Has it answered my question? Yes, I think so..maybe :lol:

 

Thanks again.

 

A little more re that Chev/Holden..

It is a Holden Statesman caprice, but these were also badged as Chevrolet Caprice ex factory.

built for the South africa market where Chev was better than Holden. Quite a few exist in NZ for some reason (poor SA sales?)

Keep your eyes skinned Jon and you will notice then coming as they have a Chev bowtie badge on the grille which is missing on this one.

 

 

edit; The situation continues today, if you buy a Chev Caprice in the US today you get a Holden

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Jon

 

You are going to have to go to MOTAT and do a massive photo dump for us.

 

For those that don't know:

MOTAT NZ is the Museum of transport and technology on the outskirts of Auckland and has loads of quality cars, buses, trucks, trams and planes.

MOTAT UK is a shed near Worcester that has 5 knackered Rover 800s in it.

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Jon

 

You are going to have to go to MOTAT and do a massive photo dump for us.

 

For those that don't know:

MOTAT NZ is the Museum of transport and technology on the outskirts of Auckland and has loads of quality cars, buses, trucks, trams and planes.

MOTAT UK is a shed near Worcester that has 5 knackered Rover 800s in it.

 

I am sure it is on jon's"to do" list ! It is on mine.

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Jon, I mentioned earlier that the Topolino rang bells with me.

An extensive hunt has produced a photo taken in about 1965, or for those who cannot count

thats 49 years ago. I bet it is the same one.

 

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My pic

 

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A bit of further googleing has found that the Fiat was built in auckland where my photo was taken, and now resides in Christchurch nearish to where jon saw it.

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The bus in the last batch - was is one of those Guy London Transport jobs? They all had MXX *** number plates, from about 1953.

 

I don't think that bus is likely to be an ex-London Transport one for some reason, though it wouldn't surprise me if similar/identical models were sold over here and that it hasn't had much of a cosmetic change when converted to a house bus. Buses of this era are still relatively popular as house buses but admittedly most of the ones seen are parked up in a garden and used as a grotty extension to the house.

 

Jon

 

You are going to have to go to MOTAT and do a massive photo dump for us.

 

For those that don't know:

MOTAT NZ is the Museum of transport and technology on the outskirts of Auckland and has loads of quality cars, buses, trucks, trams and planes.

MOTAT UK is a shed near Worcester that has 5 knackered Rover 800s in it.

 

I went to MOTAT a couple of years ago and must admit that I wasn't that impressed but I think the likes of the Transport and Toy Museum and Horopito scrap yard are really hard acts to follow, so it has stiff competition. Admittedly, the aircraft hangar was closed for redevelopment and I had a free ticket to revisit within the following 12 months but never made it. I think I'd prefer to see the Worcester-based one!

 

OK, I suppose that all good things should come to an end, so here's the final bits I scooped up, from our last few hours in the south Island before catching the ferry back home.

 

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Breaking the age rules again but I thought it looked a nice shot. These 4WD Corollas are still pleasingly common.

 

 

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Holden Statesman, I think. Photo was super over exposed but my quality* recovery skills equally match the levels of taste this owner obviously had.

 

 

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Lazy windscreen shot of LR was a bonus, as I was actually waiting to catch this:

 

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Which had eluded me an hour or so before. Once again, a set of well chosen stripes really up the game. 

 

 

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Love the fact that this still retains the dog dish hubcaps and that it's still in service.

 

 

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I'd driven past this pile of scrap blissfully unaware but Mrs_Jon pointed it out to me, so we turned round to take another look. Sadly, this was the best view(s) I could get, despite standing on the roof rack.

 

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At first, I though the one on the left was a Land Rover but I'm pretty sure it's a Trekka. 

 

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I'd be very surprised if this little lot were anything more than just waste metal, as the whole lot looked to be dumped when no longer useful. If that is the case, then interesting that relics like this should survive so long.

 

 

Picton now and the town where we board the ferry. As such, I had notions that it'd be about as interesting as Dover (i.e. not very) but it looked like a nice enough town and netted a few spots.

 

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Acceptable form of  hostel advertising: an unmolested A35

 

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These Mercedes are still in active service for the NZ Army, Navy and Air Force but are on borrowed time, as they're due to be replaced by those massive MAN things with the lego-styled cabs. The registration dates this one to 1983/84 and they're to be retired at 30 years (!!), much like the Bedford RLs which they replaced. There's also a similar-aged fleet of Unimogs, too. I wonder if they'll get disposed of locally (like the Stage 1 V8 LRs, since replaced with Haflingers), or whether they'll get sent abroad and perhaps even see active duty again somewhere?

 

 

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More boring fire trucks. Despite their decrepit looks and the fact these two have been put out to pasture, we regularly receive an International like the one on the right when our Iveco's in for repairs (i.e. all the bloody time) and I took my Emergency Response Driving and Pump Operator courses last year in an identical Mitsubishi to the one on the left. NZFS - closet shiters.

 

 

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Perfect and still of some use, seemingly.

 

 

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BUSTED AGAIN!

 

 

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Another good'un, I reckon. However, I think I saved the best spot of the day till last:

 

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THE END. Unless someone wants to pay me to re-visit.....?

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OK, think of this as a bit of a dull encore. Here's another shot of that Topolino for STUNO, which I'd previously dismissed as not being that great a photo:

 

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On second thoughts, not only does it merit inclusion due to being spotted by a member 5 decades previously but also because it currently sports a horrendous set of door mirrors. 

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Jon

 

You are going to have to go to MOTAT and do a massive photo dump for us.

 

For those that don't know:

MOTAT NZ is the Museum of transport and technology on the outskirts of Auckland and has loads of quality cars, buses, trucks, trams and planes.

MOTAT UK is a shed near Worcester that has 5 knackered Rover 800s in it.

Off topic but where's the Sloth gone?

 

I DEMAND SLOTH!!

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Thread back from the dead!

 

I thought I'd update with a bit of news, as I was trawling through a local forum and found a link to a Bedford CF that seemed to look quite familiar. Turns out it's the same one I spotted in Nelson, from my first post in here:

 

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I remember thinking it was very tidy looking with extremely shiny chrome, so it's great to have found a build thread on it, here: 

 

http://oldschool.co.nz/2011/forum/index.php?/topic/45780-flashs-78-bedford-panelvan/

 

Looks like it's had a small fortune spent on it and it does show, I think. The owner has past history of customising CFs, so I reckon he's done a fab job of maintaining constraint and keeping it so standard-looking.

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