Jump to content

Korean Cortina - the coolest Stellar in the UK?

Recommended Posts

Don't give me ideas!

On 9/26/2019 at 10:12 PM, LightBulbFun said:

66.6Mph :)

The velocity of the beast!

I've been doing some calculations (based on driving at set rpm in each gear) myself, and if I make the assumption that the 2.3 Cortina axle contains the standard 3.44:1 diff, my gear ratios are as follows:

1st - 4.81:1
2nd - 3.04:1
3rd - 1.82:1
4th - 1.21:1
5th - 1:1

If however, I do have the 'standard' R380 ratios, that means I must have a 4.11:1 diff ratio. Once I fit the 3.09:1 diff I'll either be geared to a realistic 134 mph (rather than the theoretical 120 mph at present), or a massive 161 mph! Which I doubt I'd have the power (or the balls!) to reach.

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites
18 minutes ago, mat_the_cat said:

Don't give me ideas!

what do you think I have been trying to do! :mrgreen:

18 minutes ago, mat_the_cat said:

The velocity of the beast!






18 minutes ago, mat_the_cat said:

or a massive 161 mph! Which I doubt I'd have the power (or the balls!) to reach.


reminds me of the Transit van XJ220 development mule :mrgreen:

(on a more serious note it will be interesting to see how drastic the change is in real life compared to how it sounds on paper)

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

I will post up figures; I have recorded over the last 16k miles so a decent comparison.

But I am being side-tracked by another, far less important job on the car! I rhink I've mentioned the fact I'd quite like it if it wasn't immediately obvious that the engine came from a Rover, and although some people don't twig, the word R O V E R on the rocker covers is a bit of a giveaway...

So I was after something devoid of bling, something that would look like it could be a standard engine. And, thanks to @MorrisItalSLX these arrived today all the way from Australia! 


The only question remaining is what colour to paint them? I was initially wondering about a black crackle finish, but then I thought that a repaint in the current blue might look quite nice, matching the filter and distributor cap. But probably wouldn't look OEM. Maybe silver? 

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

Nice rocker covers! Blue is always a good colour imho, but it might make it look a bit ‘Ford’ like? They always used blue in the good old days.

How about red or orange? Should make them stand out too instead of blending in! You want to pop the hood and everyone know you have a big V8!

Or if understated is your thing satin black.

My wildcard suggestion... gold! 

Even I can’t decide!

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

Understated is what I'm after! So satin black may be a good shout. (Especially if my mate can fit them in his powder coating oven, as that's the only colour he does!) But crinkle finish black might be a bit more special without looking obvious - plus cover any imperfections after removing the rust!

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

Cut the Hyundai badge from a rocker cover like this


and epoxy onto one of your new covers before spraying them satin black. That would give a real OEM look!

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, blackboilersuit said:

Cut the Hyundai badge from a rocker cover like this


and epoxy onto one of your new covers before spraying them satin black. That would give a real OEM look!

To be a complete pedant, they didn't use that logo until 1992; the earlier one looks like the left hand side of this:


But yes, the idea of glueing on a badge had crossed my mind!

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

It almost seems a shame to remove this label from my new rocker covers:


"Hot run tested and electronically tuned" it proudly states.

But in true Leyland style, the label wasn't even applied straight!

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

Let’s not forget that the bloke who put that sticker on was probably very well hydrated if you know what I mean.

I think that sticker would make a good T-shirt.


As for what colour to paint them, I would go with a hammered finish, for variety, in a gunmetal grey or minty green.

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

Too late! The decision has been made (at least for now...) First I took them in to work, and popped them in the sand blaster.


Then gave them to a mate who does his own powder coating (but only in satin black at the moment). He sent me a few photos:



And the finished job, which he says will dull down a bit once cool.


I figure that if they don't look right once they're on, I can always overpaint, and it'll have a good base.

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

This week I did something I hadn't planned to do, and that is take the car out after they've started gritting the roads :-o Fortunately it hasn't rusted away yet, but I felt like I was being mean to it! In some ways it does make a good winter car, as no problems keeping warm behind the wheel, and the all-season tyres still grip well on the greasy tarmac. But soon I'll be laying it up until the spring.

I picked up my rocker covers this week too, but there were a few things I had to do before I could fit them. First of all I had to grind off the welded on breather pipe on the inside of one of them as it fouled on the rocker shaft.


Then on to the holes left by the HT lead clips - the originals were broken anyway.


My plan was to fit an M6 rivnut (easy) then drill and tap an M6 screw down the centre, so I could screw some new HT lead clamps with an M4 screw. That was not quite so easy, especially with stainless steel! Only 0.4mm each side between the 4mm major diameter of the M4 screw and the 4.8mm minor diameter of the M6 screw I'm screwing into the centre of.


My (cheap) carbon steel tap snapped with very little force, so I treated myself to a nice set of 3 HSS taps. New quality tools are always nice :-)


So that done it was time to actually fit the rocker covers. Don't believe everything you read on the internet that they are an identical fit! Aside from the breather pipe, the gasket face is smaller so Rover V8 gaskets don't fit properly. The cork gaskets don't allow enough rocker clearance, and the rubber ones stick out too much. But anyway, I got them on and think they look smart!




Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

Arguably a better way of doing it would have been to weld up the hole with a washer before powder coating, to suit an M4 rivnut. But I only thought about it afterwards, and the existing hole was the right size for M6. That said, the bolt heads make a handy take-off for the HT lead clamps to hold them away from the surface.

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

The first snow is forecast tomorrow, so this may be the last drive for a while. Although the good news about this is that I'll have chance to work on the air con installation and the axle work. It was a lovely day today however, so chance for a photo in the sunshine!


The thing I really like about this picture is that it still looks like a sleeper, even with the bonnet open!


Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

A definite garage day today, with snow falling and temperatures hovering around freezing. So perfect for chipping away at the AC installation then! The compressor is the next item I want to install, and I confess I took the easy option of buying some universal mounting brackets which will enable me to swivel the unit, to tension the belt.


Cutting these out myself would take longer than I'd like to imagine! With the lack of space in the engine bay though, the brackets needed cutting down considerably to fit.


Yes, that is very thin but once I've welded this onto another plate at right angles, rigidity will be restored. This will be my compressor rear mount.

The front compressor mount I want to bolt up to the timing cover, but to get the belt alignment correct I need to set it back by 6mm. Handily, I'm using 6mm plate, so I just need to fasten one plate to the front of the timing cover, and overlap that with the slotted plate the compressor mounts to.

I made this up using an old timing cover as a pattern:


Cutting this out with an angle grinder took a while! But once bolted up I could then overlap with the cut down slotted plate, and temporarily clamp in place with a small G clamp while I checked alignment:


Belt line looks good:


But the question is, have I got enough movement of the compressor to tension the belt, without it fouling?



I'll call that a success :-)

Next job will be to either weld or bolt that together, and move onto the rear bracket. I'd like to weld it, but I'm not sure that if I do so, I'll be able to actually remove the compressor. I might have to end up making the bracket dismantlable in order to give me wriggle room.

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

Ok, this picture might not look too different to the ones above, but getting to this stage took a good while!


The problem was, while the compressor was free to move, I hadn't realised it was actually resting on the front anti roll bar! So I zip tied a wooden spacer onto the ARB, and then tried to re-mount the compressor. Bugger. It fouled the engine :-(

But not a particularly important part of the engine, so with a good deal of flap disc action later, I had clearance.


I then cut down an old V belt to the right length, so I can now match that up to the next longest length available (hoping that isn't too long for me to be able to tension it!)


Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

I've now involved the compressor and mounting plates, and mocked up the spacing of the compressor lugs with a couple of bolts.


I could then reinstall the mounts to see where in free space the rear mount was sitting. There are two bosses on the block that I plan to utilise, by welding a plate at right angles to the rear mount. Access is a little tricky, but all I need to do is drill the plate, bolt to the block and tack it to the mount. The proper welding can be done on the bench, assuming it doesn't distort too much on cooling...

Note how much of my block is sitting on top of the sump guard in dust form!

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

I made up a plate with holes to match the bosses on the block...


...so once that was bolted on I tacked it to the rear mount. Then I could unbolt both, weld up properly, and paint. My welding was a bit splattery and I don't know why, but got good penetration so the joins are strong at least.


Happily there was no noticeable distortion, so the two mounts were still in the right place to fix the compressor between. A 925mm belt was the right length to drive it, so this was the end result.


I'm actually really pleased with this; it's turned out to fit nicely, and I'm *just* able to get the full range of adjustment without fouling anything. Time to see it in action!

I've noticed since the rocker cover swap that the idle speed is lower - I think that is down to the fact that quite a bit of air was previously passing through the breather system into the carb, and hence bypassing the throttle flap. I'd adjusted the throttle stop as far as I could so it was fully closed, and it was just running on the breather system. Now I think the flow is less, the idle speed seems too low so will adjust the throttle stop slightly.

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

Winter is now well and truly here, so time to take this off the road. But first an opportunity for an arty frost shot this morning!


It normally lives in the garage, but got back late last night so thought I'd leave it outside so I could wash it today. I was also interested to see how well it would start in the cold...

Pretty well as it happened. Although user error on my behalf for pushing the choke in too much!

I then parked it on a slope after a wash, to let the water drain away. Check out that axle articulation!


I can now set about removing the dash, and also fitting the AC condenser in front of the radiator.

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

On that subject, my bargain condenser was causing me a problem! The pipe connections were quite unusual, known as pad or peanut mounts.


Problem was I could find no UK or US suppliers selling crimp-on hose fittings to suit this. Either I'm being inept, or these are generally only available to OEM suppliers?

I thought I'd struck lucky with these: 


but they are for #8 and #10 O ring fittings, and I need one for a #6 hose. Eventually though, the power of the internet came through and I found some adapters, again in the US. Arrived within 2 days which was impressive!


Obviously they weren't designed for a Rover 45 condenser, so I had to modify them slightly by slotting out the holes slightly.


Next problem was that torquing them down meant that the connector was skewed over to one side.


So I had to rummage through my collection of washers to find something of suitable thickness, to use as a spacer to keep everything aligned.


It might not look much, but that's a big step in my mind as it means the pipework will now all be standard fittings. I'm planning to make all the hoses myself, so all I'll need to buy will be a collection of fittings and I can cut everything to length in situ. Less chance of messing something up, and given what seems to be charged for made to measure hoses, cheaper too even with the price of a crimping kit!

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Similar Content

    • By Zelandeth
      Well I've been meaning to sign up here in forever, but kept forgetting. Thanks to someone over on another forum I frequent poking me about it recently the subject was forced back into my very brief attention span for long enough to get me to act on the instruction.

      I figure that my little varied fleet might bring you lot some amusement...

      So...we've got:

      1993 Lada Riva 1.5E Estate (now fuel injected, as I reckon the later cars should have been from the factory...).
      1989 Saab 900i Automatic.
      1987 Skoda 120LX 21st Anniversary Special Edition.
      1985 Sinclair C5.
      2009 Peugeot 107 Verve.

      Now getting the photos together has taken me far longer than I'd expected...so you're gonna get a couple of photos of each car for now, and I'll come back with some more information tomorrow when I've got a bit more time...

      Firstly...The Lada. Before anyone asks - in response to the single question I get asked about this car: No, it is not for sale. Took me 13 years and my father's inheritance to find the thing.

      Yes, it's got the usual rusty wings...Hoping that will be resolved in the next couple of months.


      Next, a proper old Saab. One of the very last 8 valve cars apparently, and all the better for it. I've driven two 16v autos and they were horrible - the auto box works sooooo much better with the torque curve of the 8 valve engine. Just wish it had an overdrive for motorway cruising...

      Next up a *real* Skoda...back when they put the engine where it belongs, right out the back. In the best possible colour of course...eye-searingly bright orange.

      Seat covers have been added since that photo was taken as it suffers from the usual rotting seat cloth problem that affects virtually all Estelles.

      Then we have possibly the world's scruffiest Sinclair C5...

      Realised when looking for this that I really need to get some more photos of the thing...I use it often enough after all! We have a dog who's half husky, so this is a really good way of getting him some exercise.

      Finally - again, I really need to take more photos of - we have the little Pug 107.

      Included for the sake of variety even if it's a bit mainstream! First (and probably to be the only) new car I've bought, and has been a cracking little motor and has asked for very little in return for putting up with nearly three years of Oxford-Milton Keynes commuter traffic, before finally escaping that fate when my housemate moved to a new job. Now it doesn't do many miles and is my default car for "when I've managed to break everything else."

      I'll fill in some more details tomorrow - I warn you though that I do tend to ramble...
    • By Tickman
      First some background:
      I was brought up with no car interest, a car was transport and nothing more which resulted in a selection of poor cheap cars being the cars of my youth.
      Fast forward many years (just over 9 years ago) and I have a wonderful* Vauxhall Vectra estate to carry us about. Unfortunately it is crap and throws fault codes at us with nothing being there when it is checked (even at Vauxhall)
      As Mrs T is the main pilot of this chariot with the two little miss T's on board, it has to go.
      The hunt is on for the new steed to safely and comfortably carry the family around. I have a company car at the time so big journeys are not an issue.
      ebay is my weapon of choice to find the new family car. It has to be good value cheap for no other reason than I am tight.
      Weeks of research with lots of cars that are too expensive and too far away for easy collection end up in my watch list.
      Finally a possible is spotted in Fife. I go and have a look and find a poor looking but solid car. One previous owner and lots of history.
      The auction was to end on the Saturday at midday, we were going to be out! I decided on how much I was willing to gamble on it and on the Saturday morning I put in my max bid but straight away it went to my max bid, I was winning but it had three hours to go with no room for me to go up! We went out anyway.
      I spent the next three hours kicking myself for not bidding more while we were out as it was the first car I had seen that fitted my criteria. Fate was in charge.
      On returning home I go straight on ebay to find 'Congratulations.............'
      For the grand total of £500 I had just won this fine vehicle!

      It has 5 months MOT and after fitting seat belts in the rear for the girls car seats it is pushed into daily service.
      My gamble and subsequent use results in a perfectly reliable car that actually does what it is supposed to do.
      Even more importantly Mrs T loves it so a win all round.
      All my cars have names (most are earned over a bit of time) and this one is called 'Gwendolen' ( G reg car and from Wales originally. I hate the name but I am not going to argue)
      That sums up part one, more will be along later (probably much later)
    • By Floatylight
      Will be on the road shortly, right after fud has been consumed..
      Sent from my Moto G (5) using Tapatalk
    • By TripleRich
      Hi all, new to the forum.  Thought you might be interested in what I've got myself into
      I'd been after my first classic car for a while.  If it's big and made in the 70s I'm interested.  Looked at few things like P6s, Zodiacs, Victors, SD1s and various other things.  Problem was I didn't want to spend a boatload of money on something that looked alright but underneath was actually a total heap.  The solution was to buy a complete heap in the first place and spend the money fixing it.
      So in January I went ahead and bought this from a colleague at work who was moving away and needed to get shot of it.

      It's a part finished restoration (I prefer not started) and it needs a whole load of help if it's going to stand any chance of using a road again.
      It's right up my street.  Granada Coupes are quite odd and certainly stand out from the norm.
      It still has the original engine, box, interior and most trim.
      It came with loads of panels I need to repair it (mostly original Ford stock).
      It came with so many spares I could probably build a few Granadas and still have stuff left over.
      It was cheap.
      Most of the front end has been cut off.
      Most of the body structure is quite rotten.
      It's going to take me ages.
      I work at a restoration company and my boss kindly allows me to keep the car there.  So I've got access to all the gear I need to restore it.  I've been busy on the car for a while now so will post more pics over the coming days.
  • Create New...