coalnotdole Posted June 19, 2014 Author Share Posted June 19, 2014 Will the spares boat be striped for its rudder and then weighed in? Not scrapped so much as left as a blank starting point for a new owner to do a proper conversion on it. The idea that its just a spares boat is probably a bit unfair as its actually a great starting point for someone who was looking for medium size boat as either a home or to re engine and use on rivers / inshore waters. When it gets sold a new owner will probably do one of the following things to it: 1, Install a new smaller engine up aft under the cockpit floor / in aft cabin. This would free up all the space in the engine room for accommodation. I would mean the boat could still be used inshore waters and would have the added benefit of better economy. The downside is it won't be capable of towing frigates anymore, and re-engining is a bit specialist and will be costly to do. 2, All the engine gearbox and prop are permanently removed this means that the entire space can become living accommodation, this is the ideal scenario if your going to moor it up somewhere on a semi permanent basis. Ie as a home or to let it out as holiday accomodation for mass profit. Downside is it will have to be towed away to a new location and will still need money spending on it to make the insides presentable. 3, Someone takes it on as a brave restoration oriented job like Dave has done with his, the downside will be that we are removing a lot of the difficult to source original bits for use on his boat. Bfg and anonymous user 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickwall Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Toot! toot!All aboard the Shiteboat. Lookin' good so far. I'm prolly not brave enough eddyramrod 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalnotdole Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 I actually wrote this post out yesterday but just as I was about to add the reply firefox crashed and ate the message...! Sorry there are no work in progress photos this time. Since my last post Dave tried running the engine in gear and had discovered that the propshaft was seized, which meant getting the engine, gearbox out in order allow the intermediate shaft to be removed for investigation. The plan was formed to bring it out on the slipway and to remove the propeller, propshaft and Skeg (bronze bracket which holds the rudder) Dave had already lifted the rudder and the engine out the week before. While out on the slipway the plan was to inspect the bottom, evaluate the copper sheaving, make any repairs needed and then give the whole boat a decent coat of paint. The prop came off easily but the prop shaft was seized solid and repeated effort with the slege hammer would not dive it far enough inboard to get it out. The white metal bearings had spun at both ends of the stern tube. The propshaft had also badly de-zincified around the bearing carrier which effectively meant it was scrap. In the angle grinder was the only thing that was able to get it out. The copper turned out to be in very good condition, it needed only minor repairs to get it up to a decent standard. The timber underneath has been protected amazingly well illustrating that copper over teak construction method really does last. The final task was painting her up in the traditional buff and black of the Royal Fleet Axillary which I hope you'll all agree looks much better: Aft Cabin Engine Room (former) Forecabin: And finally a shot of her ready for relaunch... Uncle Jimmy, beko1987, Bfg and 15 others 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalnotdole Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 A few more Photos: The fleet: The new boat will be going up for sale shortly so if anyone fancies a liveaboard project do let me know. Asimo, vulgalour, Dirk Diggler and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Rustbucket Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 The whole undertaking is a quite extraordinary and utterly wonderful thing to do. Autoshite at its very best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felly Magic Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I concur that you have just won Autoshite FOREVER! Excellent thread this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Wtf have I just read, that's amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty-two Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Great thread, makes me want to own a boat. However like most winners on bullseye who won a speedboat, I don't live close to water. AnthonyG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 But the mystery box could be anything, it could even be a boat! Conrad D. Conelrad, anonymous user, djim and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUNO Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I was in awe of the whole project when I first saw this thread. Nothing has changed, except that I now want the " spares " boat to live in.Can you put the sail back up and deliver please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny69 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Great thread. I've really enjoyed reading - and learned a bit about boats too! What's the difference between a boat and a ship then? Edit: I just Googled it so, on second thoughts, let's not get tangled up in that debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forddeliveryboy Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 More boats needed. With more diesel engine starting vids. Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrad D. Conelrad Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Dated clock, this was saved (as it said made in england all over it) It's a Metamec wall clock. They sometimes sell for £10-£30 on eBay. Sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalnotdole Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 It's a Metamec wall clock. They sometimes sell for £10-£30 on eBay. Sometimes. Sadly the condition is a bit lacking on that one, If I find a battery for it and it works I'll probably hang it in the garage. beko1987 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeJay Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Reading this thread always makes me stupidly happy. beko1987 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalnotdole Posted September 27, 2014 Author Share Posted September 27, 2014 Brief update, the spares boat has left the island... It was towed away to the mainland by a towage firm on behalf of her new owner. I believe the plan will be to make her into a live aboard with a hope to refit a new engine of some description. The next update will either be on the subject of galley / fore cabin work... scruff, Micrashed and Bfg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skizzer Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I've just caught up with the July update so only now have I clocked that you've painted it beige. OUTSTANDING. Loving this story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Love this thread. Should have been a tv program really. Grundig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rml2345 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Love this thread. Should have been a tv program really."Next time on Boatshite..." Just got up to date with this myself and they make a handsome pair moored up together. Glad a buyer was found though.This is one of the best Autoshite threads ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulgalour Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Mould overload on that interior before you got cracking, the must have had a breathtaking aroma quite literally. Cracking stuff happening as expected in this thread, and quite a transformation on the 'spares' boat from where you started. Only one question, how on earth did you get the engine out? It's not like you can drop the subframe so I can only assume you either lifted it out the top somehow or manhandled it through the entire boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 What an absolutely brilliant thing for a 17 year old to buy, how did you come about it anyway? How much was it to buy back then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVee8 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I have just picked this up from the spare's boat fuck knows were i hve been for the last 3 months.Speachless this it just class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 No one on autoshite will be able to use the words "here's a picture of the fleet" again. chaseracer, djim and vulgalour 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalnotdole Posted September 28, 2014 Author Share Posted September 28, 2014 Mould overload on that interior before you got cracking, the must have had a breathtaking aroma quite literally. Cracking stuff happening as expected in this thread, and quite a transformation on the 'spares' boat from where you started. Only one question, how on earth did you get the engine out? It's not like you can drop the subframe so I can only assume you either lifted it out the top somehow or manhandled it through the entire boat. The roof of the engine room unbolts, and was slid backward on some scaffold tube the engine was then removed by crane. In the spirit of autoshite I'd like to assure readers that the crane was an Iron fairy, Guaranteed to be 100% crane shite very similar to this one: What an absolutely brilliant thing for a 17 year old to buy, how did you come about it anyway? How much was it to buy back then? I believe Dave bought his boat primarily as somewhere to live, he grew up living on boats and lived on a similar HSL in Penryn cornwall before moving to the island I suppose by the time he was 17 he was looking for his own place. I don't actually know how much he spent to buy it... and i darent think how much has been spent on it since! I can however guarantee its a lot less than you'd spend either renting or buying a house. vulgalour, nigel bickle and Dirk Diggler 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulgalour Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Hooray for Iron Fairy cranes, one of the stranger names for heavy machinery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hauserplenty Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Ooof! Aquashite rules, me hearties. Fair winds and following seas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiperCub Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Hooray for Iron Fairy cranes, one of the stranger names for heavy machinery. Was going to say 'Seriously?' - then I googled it and found out it was true!!! Great name. As others have said, not that into boats myself but this is terrific, thought I was something special when I was 17 and had my Mini 1000, but to take on this at that age takes some stones that I didn't have/still haven't got. Well done, nice job and congrats on sticking with the project when many other older and supposedly wiser folk would have quit, a nice retort to those who run the youngsters down all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalnotdole Posted December 13, 2014 Author Share Posted December 13, 2014 Update! I've been getting on with quite a bit since my last post: Hardwood for the stern has been bought (£830 +vat) so I can make a jig up and laminate the fashion pieces (frames) for that up in the workshop over the winter. 220ft of 6"X1" Iroko has been ordered for the top rubbing strake (£900 +vat) Currently waiting for long enough pieces of timber to come into the country as theres a shortage of anything over ten foot at the moment. Should be here this month and will go into storage in the loft at work until the spring when it will get fitted. Timber slats (larch) have been bought for the hull side lining (or ceiling in nautical terminology!) (£300 +vat) now machined, painted and fitted. No photos showing completion though -sorry. Starboard side bunks/seats have been built - as with the port side these are pretty much identical to the originals just slightly better made. the originals had been hacked about quite a bit over the years. New navy blue cushions and backrests have been made up by the upholsterer and look very smart - again no photos yet. Lighting mast/flag mast that goes on top of the wheelhouse is pretty much ready to fit, This came off the spares boat and is a very nice fabricated alloy mast but had been moved off the wheelhouse and mounted onto the foredeck at some point. it was missing the stays and flanges that are meant to hold it upright. Replacements have now been fabricated out of 10mm alloy plate and 1.3/4" tube. will get some photos before I fit it. Various other little jobs have been done inside and out. will try and sort some photos soonish. Starboard Bunks during construction: Detail shot showing attachment of (dirty!) slats to tripled up frame: I've also finally got round to fitting the lining pieces around the cabin sides, these cover up the join between the steel coachroof, plywood deck and oak carlin. I bought the timber to make them about 3 years ago, roughly machined them to size two years ago and trimmed them closer to size and painted them in primer about 8 months ago. Since then they've been sat behind the stove being ignored - every one is a differant size and shape, the ends are bevelled in several directions to fit against the steel frames and theres various cutouts on the back to go over bolt heads and steelwork. fitting and fettleing was a tedious job! Theyre glued in place using polyurethane adhesive (tiger seal/panel bond type stuff) Fitted (also given this one a quick coat of the eggshell finish paint I'm intending to use on all the interior steelwork) : Other side of cabin prior to fitting (or cleaning!) : You can never have too many clamps! (provided they're british made) After glueing and cleaning up, hinges fitted: This shows the general construction of the lids: Detail of locker lid corner-joint: Locker Lids all finished: Finished Bunk Top, (fiddle rail/edging has since been fitted to stop the cushions sliding off): Conrad D. Conelrad, vulgalour, PiperCub and 15 others 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike60 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Where did you learn your woodworking skills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulgalour Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Am I right in thinking these bunks are below the waterline and if so, does it get pretty cold in there as a result? I've often wondered about the practicalities of living on a boat all year round, I imagine it's pleasant enough in the warmer months but not so nice in the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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