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Volksy, so sorry to hear what had happened, but glad you are ok. Agree with Mr B, forget about it for a few days, and hopefully when your shoulders are better you will be in the right frame of mind to make a decision as to what to do.

 

It doesn't look too bad to be honest. Obviously no idea what it's like underneath but agree with previous comments that it could probably be straightened up. And it might be easier to prep and paint any replacement panelling off the car so every cloud, etc.

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Well, she's been loaded onto the transporter already and taken off to Pentagon in Mansfield, just after I'd emptied everything of personal value and taken photographs of EVERYTHING, just in case. Heard too many scary stories about cars at assessors getting trashed to take any risks with recording condition, mileage, fuel, etc before letting her go. Felt like I'd given up a pet, or abandoned a trusted friend watching her go :(

 

There's a slim chance she'll get repaired, we did some measurements and checks and found she's the same length hub-to-hub both sides and the grinding noise is the tyre on the wheel arch. Hopefully she needs a bonnet, a wing, and her face straightening, the bumper isn't bent, just the brackets are. Inner wings chassis members are straight and free of ripples or cracked paint, engine bay is still as big as it was. Essentially, the rear of the van has squished the front down a bit, and in a lot on just the wing so if I'm being optimistic I'd say she's repairable.

 

Insurance company has said that if I can provide panels and parts that are required to reduce the cost of repair and risk of write-off I can, which was reassuring. I've also said I'm happy to sort out paint if that reduces the cost. I don't want to give up on her, so I'll do all I can to save her, but I might not be given a choice. I'm not allowing myself to get my hopes up, I think that would be foolish, just a case of waiting and seeing now.

 

In other news, the recovery firm said the recent weather has turned their average of 5 cars collected daily to 25 collected today, so they can't offer me a courtesy car in the meantime. I'm so happy I bit the bullet and went with fully comp insurance

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I tried to keep hold of it, they wouldn't let me. It's all a first for me really, and I know the horror stories. In all honesty, I can't repair the damage at home, and I need it to be checked out for peace of mind. Worst case is that they write it off and I don't get it back. It happens.

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There is a very good (bad?) chance that the car will be beyond economic repair. However, that does not mean that it has to be written off, an you sold bear in mind the difference between the two states. If they declare it be beyond economic repair you can get the pay out, buy it back and fix it up. I've done this a couple of times.

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I tried to keep hold of it, they wouldn't let me. It's all a first for me really, and I know the horror stories. In all honesty, I can't repair the damage at home, and I need it to be checked out for peace of mind. Worst case is that they write it off and I don't get it back. It happens.

Until they pay you for it, it's your car and they can not force a write off. Until you accept their offer it is YOURS so make sure that they damn well know it by phonin, writing, sending emails etc. now to make sure that they are 100% clear that you do not authorise them to take any action without consulting you first.

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That's a total bummer VA, after all your excellent hard work as well, I'm gutted for you mate... :(

 

Surely even if the insurers won't fix it (and sadly I doubt they will..) you could buy it back from them and get some shite-friendly bodyshop to straighten everything out on her? As far as the insurance company will be concerned it'll be a £150 lump of scrap steel, so they'll probably let you have it back.

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Sorry to read about this. Is it on an agreed value policy? If not they will say it's beyond economical repair. I would collect it from wherever they have taken it and get the assessor to value it at yours. The beavertail chaps really lean on you to get the car taken to their yard because they charge the insurance company like a wounded rhino for the storage. When I crashed the DS on a Friday afternoon I had to explain in no uncertain terms that the car was going to my mechanic who would wait until it arrived. I could see the pound signs draining from the driver's eyes. The assessors I have met have been very approachable and willing to discuss every option. Its the paper pushers who are the problem. Good luck, you will have to be tenacious if you want to hang on to the car.

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I had a mishap in a Saab 9000 a few years ago. I caught the side of a parked double glazing van and the rack that they fit along the side on the van (to carry patio doors, etc) went along my front wing and front door like a knife thro' butter! Car was 10 yrs old so virtually worthless and they wanted to write it off. It was a nice Aero model and was otherwise mint, I'd spent a lot on it. I priced a second hand wing, door, mirror etc. from a Saab specialist who was breaking one, then got a price from a local bodyshop to fit and paint. When I put the total price to insurance co, they said that was ok, I'd have to pay for the work and they'd reimburse me less the excess. This they did and all worked out ok. They were going to pay out £1300 for scrap, repairs cost 900 with vat, so I saved them a bit. It's all about money on paper with insurance companies. Hope they are willing to talk and discuss with you. What a bloody shame!

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Right, I've been on the phone - and read all the above, I'm feeling reassured that I'm doing the right thing, and scared that there's still that chance it can go pearshaped, but realistic about it all, thanks guys - to the insurance company and the assessor.

 

Pentagon are, so far, superb. He explained that the only reason they wouldn't return the car is if it's Cat B, and that seems very unlikely. He's of the opinion, from a cursory look, that it just needs a bonnet and a wing and a bit of hammer work. I've also been informed that while they will provide a valuation for work to the insurers, negotiation can happen so that I can reduce the repair cost (and risk of write-off) by providing parts and labour myself.

 

If, as I suspect is the case, I need bodywork and little more, I could come out okay from all this. I will likely buy the car back if I have to and have not, as yet, set a claim in motion, merely an assessment, the result of which I don't have to accept and I can get the car delivered back to me to repair myself and not make a claim at all. This is a good thing.

 

Looking at the car properly, I need a CV boot as I've lost a clip on the driver's side somehow (might not be accident related), a wing and two front light clusters. I may also need a front valance, slam panel and bonnet if they can't be straightened. Other than that, it's really not that bad and could have a happy ending.

 

I know where the assessor garage is, I've confirmed it's with them - the advantage of a distinctive car - and they've told me that I'm more than welcome to keep in regular contact for updates. They have a 1 week backlog and also have run out of courtesy cars because people like me have been driving into people in the wet weather. The main two causes of this crash are my rubbish tyres and my momentary distraction (note: not preening, for once :P ).

 

I hope I get her back, I hope this has a happy ending. All parties involved are aware of just how precious the car is to me and there does seem to be a lot of love and sympathy from the garage guys that have seen her so maybe, just maybe, things will turn out okay. I'm still going to be glass half empty until I get answers, but for now I feel reassured. Time will tell, I would like for this to be one of many more chapters in her story, not the final one.

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If folks can keep an eye out for the following at bargain prices, that would be excellent. I'm not buying anything until the assessor has done his assessing, but I reckon I need:

 

Bonnet

Wing (driver's side, passenger side is okay)

Both indicator/sidelight units, might get away with just lenses

Grille and headlight trims/trapezoid lamps. - eBay provides, would you believe it! Very reasonable £23 inc. postage.

Slam panel (if I can't get this bent back properly)

Valance (if it can't be repaired)

 

I know how much the paint and labour for myself to redo stuff will be (MORE PURPLE) and that's super cheap and the plan is really to say to the insurers when they have the assessor list that I have X,Y and Z so they can cross those things off the list of costs and hopefully bring the cost right down to rock bottom. I really do think getting the car assessed is sensible though, I have no idea what damage has actually been done as I don't have all the tools and knowledge for that and I'm reassured that she's going to be okay while she's away, though it's breaking my bitter, pickled heart.

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Sorry to hear this, but it could have easily been worse. I'm sure we've all done something similar; I certainly have...

 

Glad you're not giving up, and I have to say you may have a point about the tyres; shite tyres do make it much harder to recover from finding yourself on a collision course, indeed I well remember shit tyres on the back of my sisters 2CV combined with inattention resulting in fierce oversteer followed by getting the front all tangled in a wire fence.

 

I had to get up about 4 the next morning to change the bent suspension arm and wing so that I could get to work on time the following day. I did buy her a new pair of tyres to say sorry though. Never bothered painting the odd wing though like...

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I've scored a new set of black plastic face trims for £23 on the eBays which is pretty reasonable. Looks like I'm sticking with the quads not going for Trappies. Des, you shall have PM shortly.

 

I'm happy I'm working now, it means this is just about affordable and the more parts I obtain, the better the outlook.

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