sierraman Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Anyone watch Scouting Toys? The collection of Matchbox that went for £400,000, christ there was some lovely stuff in that like the seventies Drag Set. Who though is spending £800 on preproduction models? That’s nuts! But then again I baulk at paying more than a pound for an old crock. bunglebus, Remspoor and eddyramrod 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglebus Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Way back in darkest Covid times (8/8/20) I bought this Dinky Beach Buggy with a view to doing something about the missing roll hoop and improving the paint scheme Well I think this is an improvement. Made a filler panel for the area behind the seats, this also forms the attachment for the rear of the base via a tube with a screw into it. Roll hoop made out of a bit of steel wire I had laying around, windscreen was cut from a larger one out of a lorry or some such, and paint is the stuff intended for painting your nan's old sideboard to make it look modern... Wheel rims got a polish and the engine and seats got a black wash to make them look more realistic. Pleased with this one. Split_Pin, RoadworkUK, Remspoor and 11 others 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrett Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 That looks great @bunglebus, I really enjoy your restorations. Do you do commissions? bunglebus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglebus Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 1 hour ago, barrett said: That looks great @bunglebus, I really enjoy your restorations. Do you do commissions? I haven't, partly because I have no idea how I would price such a thing, partly because I'm a terrible critic of my own work and mostly because I can't normally live with the idea of getting rid of them after the effort that goes in. I have given a couple to my friend as presents, mainly replicas of his own vehicles. I can go and look at them whenever I want! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsuncog Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Top work on the Dinky buggy - not one I've ever encountered before in the metal, and that rear deck panel with the hoop looks very neat! bunglebus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrett Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Latest arrivals for my non-collection. I've mentioned before that I'd like to find all the 'unique' cars built by Pilen in Spain, ie those which were not re-issues from other manufacturers. I've yet to find any decent online resource for this make but I have identified a handful of cars which are definitely Pilen originals. I already have the Vauxhall SRV, Monteverdi Hai and Intermeccanica Indra. Now I've added one of the nicest, the AMC Javelin. I really like AMC cars generally, as the last independent outsider in Detroit they built some really interesting stuff. I'm a big fan of Dick Teague's styling, particularly in the 1970s. There also aren't that many nice 1:43 models of American cars of this period, although there were plenty in the 1950s and early '60s by the '70s few European compaines seemed interested. So, already a slightly odd choice of subject matter (I can't believe the Javelin was ever sold in Spain, though I could be wrong) and a particularly pleasing end result, with great proportions and excellent detail. The base is pretty simple, but there's a decent crack at a proper V8 (scuse my dirty nails) The interior detail is pretty good, although this one has lost its seat backs It's the little delicate castings of badges etc which really make this one, though. Look how crisp and legible the 'Javelin' and 'SST' scripts are, plus the side repeater lamp. Really, really pleased with that one. I know of at least two other 'original Pilens' which are on my radar, and possibly others I'm yet to find, so watch this space. My second bit of post is another Mercury effort, this time it's Bertone Alfa Romeo Carabo, which must be one of the most-modelled cars ever built. Off the top of my head French Dinky and Solido both did 1:43s, Hot Wheels, Corgi Juniors and Matchbox did small-scale efforts. There are 1:25-ish Politoys and Togi and I'm sure many more. This one is 'average' - definitely not as detailed as the Solido or Dinky and quite lightweight. I'd say typical of the later Mercury toys for accuracy and detail. Overall pretty decent shape, though, and the doors open nicely. They're very delicate though and I can't imagine they'd stand up to much play A very plain metal base puts this firmly in the 'toy' category. Really this is only here because it's Italian, a weird subject, and unusual to find in the UK, not because I love it. RayMK, Jon, bunglebus and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkyarddog Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Picked up this no brand Mk1 Ford Escort today. Not sure if it's a rip off of the Hot Wheels casting or the Corgi one? Screwed together, so will wheel swap it at some stage. Edit:Done. Split_Pin, Remspoor, AndyW201 and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglebus Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 1 hour ago, junkyarddog said: Picked up this no brand Mk1 Ford Escort today. I've been trying to find one of those, but not seen any in the UK before. Where did you find it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsuncog Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Another plain box touched down here yesterday, too - yup, it's the latest from the Corgi Model Club - the #303S Mercedes-Benz 300SL Roadster. The pale blue paint sets it off nicely, even if the racing stripe - tampo printed, rather than a waterslide decal - isn't quite my bag. A quick look through the big Van Cleemput book indicates that original versions of this colour variant normally wore a No. 6, instead of 1, on the bonnet. I'm starting to see a bit of a pattern emerging in their releases - just as the techno-whizz 007 Aston with all the working bits was preceded by the rather more basic Ford Thunderbird, so last month's highly detailed 'everything opens' Jaguar E-Type 2+2 has been followed by the somewhat less, ahem, complex Mercedes. Which is fair enough - they're offering these out at a fixed price each month, whereas the Corgi originals varied in price quite considerably. The Jaguar seems to be made up of 41 separate components, by my count, while the Merc with its cast-in interior and no opening parts has a rather more modest 17. There's got to be substantial difference in manufacturing costs - so I'd like to think that the simpler models like the Thunderbird and Mercedes are subsidising the flashier ones somewhat. It's a very nicely proportioned wee model, with the 300SL's slippery lines captured well - and enough detail to do it justice. The base is pretty functional here, in line with the original design from 1958 - though by the time Corgi started adding their 'Glidamatic' suspension in 1961, diecast bases had taken over from the earlier tinplate type. The holographic 'Licensed by Daimler' sticker on one end of the box kind of takes the armchair nostalgist out of their retro reverie, but I guess that's the way things have to be these days with intellectual property - we're kinda beyond the days of gentlemen's agreements. The collector's card has to work hard to make the spring suspension sound exciting - and it has its work cut out after the more dynamic issues over recent months. But hey - with a dearth of car boot sales and a self-imposed moratorium on market tat, I'm gonna have to take what I can get... and it is building up into quite a nice little collection. eddyramrod, Split_Pin, Six-cylinder and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsuncog Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 2 hours ago, barrett said: Latest arrivals for my non-collection. I've mentioned before that I'd like to find all the 'unique' cars built by Pilen in Spain, ie those which were not re-issues from other manufacturers. I've yet to find any decent online resource for this make but I have identified a handful of cars which are definitely Pilen originals. I already have the Vauxhall SRV, Monteverdi Hai and Intermeccanica Indra. Now I've added one of the nicest, the AMC Javelin. I really like AMC cars generally, as the last independent outsider in Detroit they built some really interesting stuff. I'm a big fan of Dick Teague's styling, particularly in the 1970s. There also aren't that many nice 1:43 models of American cars of this period, although there were plenty in the 1950s and early '60s by the '70s few European compaines seemed interested. So, already a slightly odd choice of subject matter (I can't believe the Javelin was ever sold in Spain, though I could be wrong) and a particularly pleasing end result, with great proportions and excellent detail. The base is pretty simple, but there's a decent crack at a proper V8 (scuse my dirty nails) The interior detail is pretty good, although this one has lost its seat backs It's the little delicate castings of badges etc which really make this one, though. Look how crisp and legible the 'Javelin' and 'SST' scripts are, plus the side repeater lamp. Really, really pleased with that one. I know of at least two other 'original Pilens' which are on my radar, and possibly others I'm yet to find, so watch this space. My second bit of post is another Mercury effort, this time it's Bertone Alfa Romeo Carabo, which must be one of the most-modelled cars ever built. Off the top of my head French Dinky and Solido both did 1:43s, Hot Wheels, Corgi Juniors and Matchbox did small-scale efforts. There are 1:25-ish Politoys and Togi and I'm sure many more. This one is 'average' - definitely not as detailed as the Solido or Dinky and quite lightweight. I'd say typical of the later Mercury toys for accuracy and detail. Overall pretty decent shape, though, and the doors open nicely. They're very delicate though and I can't imagine they'd stand up to much play A very plain metal base puts this firmly in the 'toy' category. Really this is only here because it's Italian, a weird subject, and unusual to find in the UK, not because I love it. That AMC is stunning! Totally new one to me - I had no idea Pilen had ever modelled it. Weird choice on their part, but absolutely glorious. RoadworkUK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew e Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 By Javelin is a great colour too, the late journalist Tony Beadle ran one in Street Machine I recall. bunglebus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkyarddog Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 1 hour ago, bunglebus said: I've been trying to find one of those, but not seen any in the UK before. Where did you find it? Bought it at a market this morning, just mixed in with some other die cast rubbish. bunglebus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrett Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Datsuncog said: That AMC is stunning! Totally new one to me - I had no idea Pilen had ever modelled it. Weird choice on their part, but absolutely glorious. For double-weirdness, fellow Spanish makers Nacoral Inter Cars (of melting tyres fame) decided to model the short-wheelbase two-seater AMX at the same time, which obviously I need to have. This is often listed as a 'Pilen copy' by people who obviously haven't noticed it depicts a totally different car... I don't know enough about that make to know if they made any other 'originals', but this is the only one I've ever seen. I had a spare 5 minutes so drew up this list of Pilen source cars. If anyone can add to the list I'd like to hear from you! Split_Pin, RoadworkUK and andrew e 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyW201 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 12 minutes ago, barrett said: For double-weirdness, fellow Spanish makers Nacoral Inter Cars (of melting tyres fame) decided to model the short-wheelbase two-seater AMX at the same time, which obviously I need to have. This is often listed as a 'Pilen copy' by people who obviously haven't noticed it depicts a totally different car... I don't know enough about that make to know if they made any other 'originals', but this is the only one I've ever seen. I had a spare 5 minutes so drew up this list of Pilen source cars. If anyone can add to the list I'd like to hear from you! Mini-Cooper too. I loved the Pilens I had, bought during various Spanish holidays as a kid. I had the Seat 127, 124 coupé, and 1200 Bocanegra. I also got a gold coloured Alfa Junior Zagato over there, but I'm not sure of the maker (Guiloy?), I always thought that was a Pilen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrett Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 I'd guess the Alfa Junior was a Solido, which came in gold Mebetoys also modelled this I'd like to find either of those. Or both. Never heard of a Pilen version but it might be the case andrew e, AndyW201 and Split_Pin 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyW201 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 27 minutes ago, barrett said: I'd guess the Alfa Junior was a Solido, which came in gold Mebetoys also modelled this I'd like to find either of those. Or both. Never heard of a Pilen version but it might be the case Looking at those wheels, I'd guess mine was the Solido in Gold, I'm sure it had a chequered racing stripe over the roof and bonnet, but we're talking 1981 here and my memory isn't what it was... Wish I still had my models from my Spanish holidays but they were somewhat more delicate than the 1/36 Corgis and Matchbox Superkings when it came to being played with "enthusiastically" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split_Pin Posted April 14, 2022 Author Share Posted April 14, 2022 4 hours ago, Datsuncog said: Another plain box touched down here yesterday, too - yup, it's the latest from the Corgi Model Club - the #303S Mercedes-Benz 300SL Roadster. The pale blue paint sets it off nicely, even if the racing stripe - tampo printed, rather than a waterslide decal - isn't quite my bag. A quick look through the big Van Cleemput book indicates that original versions of this colour variant normally wore a No. 6, instead of 1, on the bonnet. I'm starting to see a bit of a pattern emerging in their releases - just as the techno-whizz 007 Aston with all the working bits was preceded by the rather more basic Ford Thunderbird, so last month's highly detailed 'everything opens' Jaguar E-Type 2+2 has been followed by the somewhat less, ahem, complex Mercedes. Which is fair enough - they're offering these out at a fixed price each month, whereas the Corgi originals varied in price quite considerably. The Jaguar seems to be made up of 41 separate components, by my count, while the Merc with its cast-in interior and no opening parts has a rather more modest 17. There's got to be substantial difference in manufacturing costs - so I'd like to think that the simpler models like the Thunderbird and Mercedes are subsidising the flashier ones somewhat. It's a very nicely proportioned wee model, with the 300SL's slippery lines captured well - and enough detail to do it justice. The base is pretty functional here, in line with the original design from 1958 - though by the time Corgi started adding their 'Glidamatic' suspension in 1961, diecast bases had taken over from the earlier tinplate type. The holographic 'Licensed by Daimler' sticker on one end of the box kind of takes the armchair nostalgist out of their retro reverie, but I guess that's the way things have to be these days with intellectual property - we're kinda beyond the days of gentlemen's agreements. The collector's card has to work hard to make the spring suspension sound exciting - and it has its work cut out after the more dynamic issues over recent months. But hey - with a dearth of car boot sales and a self-imposed moratorium on market tat, I'm gonna have to take what I can get... and it is building up into quite a nice little collection. Interesting, now I have 2 of the originals. 1 in plain white and another boxed example in chrome with a hardtop fitted. I'm pretty sure the white one doesn't have suspension, I'll need to check now! Datsuncog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglebus Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 5 hours ago, Datsuncog said: Another plain box touched down here yesterday, too - yup, it's the latest from the Corgi Model Club - the #303S Mercedes-Benz 300SL Roadster. 44 minutes ago, Split_Pin said: Interesting, now I have 2 of the originals. 1 in plain white and another boxed example in chrome with a hardtop fitted. I'm pretty sure the white one doesn't have suspension, I'll need to check now! I had the chrome one with hardtop Are Corgi Club up to a bit of artistic licence with the stripe and number? *Edit* No Found #3, #5 #7 and #12 too. I believe Corgi Club have copied a pretty early release, fair play Datsuncog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spottedlaurel Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 A few recent diecast additions: Of course, as soon as @bunglebussent me a couple of LS400s I start finding plenty of them in the local shops. Thought I'd better get an extra one, just in case.... I may well already have one or two of the Integra in different colours, but I think they look really good. 1:24 plastic keeps turning up too: This is a really nice kit, might start it quite soon. Couldn't resist this oddball. I can imagine they'd be a great thing to have at 1:1, a good alternative to a Berlingo etc. Platz is a Yaris/Vitz with a boot. Sadly I missed out on getting a Vitz kit recently. Wire wheels and lowrider parts will be handy for the parts box. Great to see the Matchbox logo on the Hilux kit, I've already made a start on that one: No plans to do the boat at present, it may come in useful for a future build. Limited parts count and it's snap-fit, but it goes together nicely and looks to be well-proportioned. As it is at present, hopefully will be getting some red topcoat on it over the Easter weekend. I want to to build it as close as possible to a stock UK/Euro-spec example, as a loose replica of an immaculate example owned by a local, wealthy businessman who has a collection of 4wd Hilux single-cabs. Found some appropriate steel wheels in a Land Cruiser kit and I'm making some other mod's to bring it back to stock. Amishtat, andrew e, Remspoor and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split_Pin Posted April 15, 2022 Author Share Posted April 15, 2022 @barrett top work on the Pilen list, I have always wondered if the old Dinky castings made it there. I only have one, the Seat 124 Coupe, which I was delighted to find at at swapmeet in 1996. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsuncog Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 15 hours ago, barrett said: I had a spare 5 minutes so drew up this list of Pilen source cars. If anyone can add to the list I'd like to hear from you! I really don't know a lot about Pilen, which is why I'm enjoying this deep-dive into their products - but they also produced a later Talbot Alpine (or Talbot 150, as it was badged) which was a bit different from the Solido Chrysler Alpine/ Simca 1308. I just so happened to have an example of a Pilen Talbot 150 and a Solido Simca 1308, and took a few comparison pics a number of years ago. So this might be another Pilen original for the list - unless it matches with Joal's version? (It's the only Pilen I've ever owned, so my knowledge pretty much stops here.) barrett, RayMK, Remspoor and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split_Pin Posted April 15, 2022 Author Share Posted April 15, 2022 I have the Joal Version, it's a MK1 but described underneath as a Chrysler 150 or something. The suspension is very lifelike as it bows to the weight of the model. I'll see if I habe a picture somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty2006 Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 Over the moon at today’s hotwheels find at BnM. Been after the Sierra for months, and a bonus BMW. junkyarddog, andrew e, AndyW201 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrett Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Datsuncog said: I really don't know a lot about Pilen, which is why I'm enjoying this deep-dive into their products - but they also produced a later Talbot Alpine (or Talbot 150, as it was badged) which was a bit different from the Solido Chrysler Alpine/ Simca 1308. I just so happened to have an example of a Pilen Talbot 150 and a Solido Simca 1308, and took a few comparison pics a number of years ago. So this might be another Pilen original for the list - unless it matches with Joal's version? (It's the only Pilen I've ever owned, so my knowledge pretty much stops here.) That's really helpful, thanks - the Pilen version is in fact another Dinky re-boot. The Joal version is identical to the Solido. I had assumed they were all one casting as I hadn't realised there even was a Dinky version! I will amend the list accordingly. The Pilen-Dinky tie-up is still a bit murky to me, but I believe that the Pilen factory built these last 'Spanish Dinkys' for sale in Europe. When Dinky collapsed, Pilen retained the tooling and continued making the cars under its name. Most of them were in the same colour schemes as the Dinky versions (as here) and at a glance are indistinguishable. AndyW201, Remspoor, Split_Pin and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsuncog Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 39 minutes ago, barrett said: That's really helpful, thanks - the Pilen version is in fact another Dinky re-boot. The Joal version is identical to the Solido. I had assumed they were all one casting as I hadn't realised there even was a Dinky version! I will amend the list accordingly. The Pilen-Dinky tie-up is still a bit murky to me, but I believe that the Pilen factory built these last 'Spanish Dinkys' for sale in Europe. When Dinky collapsed, Pilen retained the tooling and continued making the cars under its name. Most of them were in the same colour schemes as the Dinky versions (as here) and at a glance are indistinguishable. Aha, yes indeed - I can see how my Pilen version has clear similarities to the Dinky Simca. I'm equally unsure of the chronology of Dinky's various European operations - some squinting at Wikipedia seems to indicate that the 1308/ Alpine was one of a handful of late-1970s models designed and made by Pilen in Spain, some of which were then sold in France fitted with Dinky bases and 'Made in Spain' marks. 11539 VW Scirocco 11540 Renault 14 11541 Ford Fiesta 11542 Simca 1308 GT 11543 Opel Ascona Dinky Toys - Wikipedia Interesting that Pilen then must have decided to 'Talbot-ify' their casting to depict the post-1980 facelift version of the 150/ Alpine - and if Pilen amended the tooling after Dinky's collapse to add the Talbot name and the new nose, maybe that would count as a unique model (or variant, at least)? Annoyingly, I no longer have the Pilen model so don't know if there was a reference number on the base... andrew e 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remspoor Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 Pilen? How about Artec Man? only 30€ for 8 cars. https://www.milanuncios.com/otros-juguetes/expositor-8-coches-artec-man-de-pilen-282361975.htm Oh I forgot this link may help find some non associated models. https://pilen.jimdofree.com/ Datsuncog and andrew e 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remspoor Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 Corgi Rockets Mk1 Ford escort. It may have been the 007 version as it has no exterior roll cage as on the rally version. 155V6, bunglebus, AnnoyingPentium and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnnoyingPentium Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 Decided to stop by the Tesco in Ayr to see if they had any matchbox mini shite. Safe to say the selection was lacking... eddyramrod 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkNWeigh Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 The scene at my breakfast table this morning. Takes me back to 1977, just need an XJC, Pacer, B1600, Dyane , X1/9 and Even though it’s the wrong scale, Starsky’s Torino. I started collecting 1/36 Corgis a year or so back but not the ones we ( my3 brothers and me) had as kids, until now. Thanks @richardmorrisfor being a lot more careful with yours than we were. richardmorris, Remspoor, AndyW201 and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyW201 Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 These are all I've managed to get lately. As usual my local Tesco was a dead loss for the new case stuff. I really wanted the Golf GTi, the red Civic and the Lexus, but, naturally none to be found. There was only the Land Rover and the Bentley FX4 worth having. Not my cuppa per se, but they are beautifully made and detailed for what are just toys. Little bit more luck on the Hot Wheels front, thanks to Morrisons and the 'little' Asda. bunglebus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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