LightBulbFun Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, quicksilver said: Something I saw today for @LightBulbFun, @Yoss and the other Routemaster fans. It's RM548 but with an age-related plate and an Iveco engine (so LBF won't approve ), used on the Victoria's Secret 'Bra Fit' campaign to visit universities as a mobile fitting room. The truck is from Purfleet, just round the corner from Ensignbus, so I guess that's where it was going as it can't do its job at the moment. "and other Routemaster fans" No I think its just us 2 on here LOL RM548 is a 2000's refurbishment so it might have a Cummings B series engine and and other such crap fitted during the refurbishment (note the awful hopper windows) (glad to see her exterior lighting has been returned back to how it should be at least) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I saw the lights and got my hopes up, then saw the windows and they dropped again. Those windows are the worst mod they ever did to RMs. Not just cosmetically but they are hopeless at letting any air in. The first time I ever went on a 'Dartmaster' was on a hot day. I got on at Brixton garage and got off again before Brixton high street, it was so unpleasant. LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyersey1234 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Our white elephant, now in Dublin I believe. It spent more time in the depot than on the road, not because it was a bad coach they just bought it without having the work for it. Apparently the coaching manager wanted them to order 2 coaches but PJS ordered this instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackers Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 On 1/28/2021 at 4:24 PM, quicksilver said: Iveco engine A Routemaster with an Iveco engine... *checks notes* ... *checks notes again* ...on the back of a wrecker. *closes notebook* ...yep, it figures. big_al_granvia, LightBulbFun, catsinthewelder and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyland Worldmaster Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Good morning all! Thank you very much for adding me! I'd like to introduce myself. My name is Stu and I have an expensive addiction. Here is most of my Leyland Zoo. It's an old picture. Since it was taken, I have a Tiger Cub too. 🐯😎 Eyersey1234, TooManyPeopleMovers, Yoss and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyland Worldmaster Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Here is an example of the worst vehicle I've ever driven. They were shite when new. Comedy understeer and ELCB build quality. Frequently broke down when new. Suspension problems and interior partitions coming adrift. Bloody fast though! Eyersey1234 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyersey1234 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, Leyland Worldmaster said: Here is an example of the worst vehicle I've ever driven. They were shite when new. Comedy understeer and ELCB build quality. Frequently broke down when new. Suspension problems and interior partitions coming adrift. Bloody fast though! What chassis were they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyland Worldmaster Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 21 minutes ago, Eyersey1234 said: What chassis were they? They are based on the Scania N94/Omnicity Underframe. A similar Underframe is found under the ELCB Omnidekka too. Speaking of their close relatives, I have driven the first of these Omnidekka 'deckers in service. The quality was such that teams from ELCB and Scania had to be physically separated at a Warranty Meeting. Even late model Omnidekkas suffered problems such as "Body Drop" and the Underframes cracked below the gangway between the rear wheels. No great surprise. They were a very "Flexible" bus. Shite. But their "Lively" performance made them popular. I'll look through my old files when I get the time and post them here. 😎 rml2345, catsinthewelder, Eyersey1234 and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyersey1234 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Leyland Worldmaster said: They are based on the Scania N94/Omnicity Underframe. A similar Underframe is found under the ELCB Omnidekka too. Speaking of their close relatives, I have driven the first of these Omnidekka 'deckers in service. The quality was such that teams from ELCB and Scania had to be physically separated at a Warranty Meeting. Even late model Omnidekkas suffered problems such as "Body Drop" and the Underframes cracked below the gangway between the rear wheels. No great surprise. They were a very "Flexible" bus. Shite. But their "Lively" performance made them popular. I'll look through my old files when I get the time and post them here. 😎 We have some Scanias as National Express coaches and they seem to have upped their game in recent years, the last ones we had, back in the 90s, were terrible, they spent more time off the road than on it but these are fine. They were originally going to lease the Scanias but in between them being ordered and delivered we were taken over by Go Ahead Group, and the new owners said they would buy them as it would be cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busmansholiday Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Right, lets have a few more B&W pics from the early 70's in Sheffield. Again, where possible there's some local chod to enjoy in the background. Most of the buses numbered 101 to 228 were Park Royal bodied Atlanteans but there were a few different ones in their like 101 to 125 which were Fleetlines (easily spotted with the white steering wheel) with the 'Sheffield' style Park Royal bodies. Atlanteans 126 to 160 looked similar, this is Castleton in Derbyshire, we were on that Roe bodied Regent III on an enthusiasts tour, that's why it looks busy. Sheffield took two batches of Neepsend bodied Atlanteans, although lower numbered, 161 to 180 were the second batch. Neepsend were a subsidiary of East Lancs who built a factory in Sheffield (at Neepsend), allegedly to take advantage of available government grants. When they ended, so did the factory. You'll be pleased to know they were built to the generally acknowledged East Lancs quality. Some class chod spotting here, and they didn't look much better from the front. More Park Royal stuff, Although still with it's "B" fleet numbers, this became 217, front bumpers were fitted to the 1967/8 batch. Another batch renumberd were these older (1962) Weymann bodied Atlanteans, this was 1351. One, 1357, now 227 was rebodied in 1968 after a fire destroyed the top deck with a Park Royal body. This still survives in preservation. It became a driver trainer and was then used for livery experiments before sale. That'll do for today. ETCHY, Amishtat, Leyland Worldmaster and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 41 minutes ago, busmansholiday said: One, 1357, now 227 was rebodied in 1968 after a fire destroyed the top deck with a Park Royal body. This still survives in preservation. It became a driver trainer and was then used for livery experiments before sale. That'll do for today. wonder if that counts as Early Registration madness or not... (reminds me of those rebodied milk floats you used to see) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OM646 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Here in north Portugal, we still have some of the ultimate Euro bus shite to be still in service 37 years and counting. Volvo B10M articulated with a CAMO body. lisbon_road, catsinthewelder, busmansholiday and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyersey1234 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Today's chariot. Nice to be behind the wheel of a Levante again. LightBulbFun and Six-cylinder 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busmansholiday Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 Cracking chod not to mention the buses. somewhatfoolish and Leyland Worldmaster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyland Worldmaster Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 I'm on a Railway Replacement bus. Wrightbus Gemini/Volvo B9TL. I'm missing driving Double Deck Buses. The last one I drove was a Leyland Titan RTW. This is me a couple of years ago in the first one I'd driven. I usually drive an AEC RT. Deeply wrong for a Leyland Man... Six-cylinder, busmansholiday, Eyersey1234 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyersey1234 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 30 minutes ago, Leyland Worldmaster said: I'm on a Railway Replacement bus. Wrightbus Gemini/Volvo B9TL. I'm missing driving Double Deck Buses. The last one I drove was a Leyland Titan RTW. This is me a couple of years ago in the first one I'd driven. I usually drive an AEC RT. Deeply wrong for a Leyland Man... Our standard double decker at one time was the Gemini, both B7 and B9. Good solid buses. We switched to the MCV Evoseti body for a couple of years because price, though the build quality of the MCVs is terrible. I drove one of them when it was a fortnight old and it felt like it was going to fall apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyland Worldmaster Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 19 minutes ago, Eyersey1234 said: Our standard double decker at one time was the Gemini, both B7 and B9. Good solid buses. We switched to the MCV Evoseti body for a couple of years because price, though the build quality of the MCVs is terrible. I drove one of them when it was a fortnight old and it felt like it was going to fall apart. I've driven a few B7TL based buses. My favourites were Plaxton President variants with Independent Front Suspension. These felt solid and reliable. Often used on Rail Replacement. The (what I'll call Mk2) B7TL with a beam front axle isn't as nice to drive. I only drove Wrightbus Geminis though. I echo your comments re: quality. The Gemini 2 B9TL felt a little less solid. Also the Gearbox was set to Economy so was quite sluggish. I've driven a couple of comparitively rare Gemini 3 B5TL buses too. Quite nippy for a Double Decker with a 5.1L Engine. Not reliable though. One needed a new Engine within months of arrival. Also, the bodywork feels extremely flimsy. Everything feel as though its as lightweight as possible; even the window glass is noticeably thinner. The Upper Deck Windows are like letterboxes and the whole thing reminds me of the first MCW Bodied Leyland Atlanteans, actually... Interesting you mention the poor quality of MCV Bodies. I've some stories, but I need to get something to eat now... I'll try and find some more bus shite pictures too... 👍 👍 👍 😎 😎 😎 ETCHY, LightBulbFun and busmansholiday 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyland Worldmaster Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 On 09/02/2021 at 3:44 PM, OM646 said: Here in north Portugal, we still have some of the ultimate Euro bus shite to be still in service 37 years and counting. Volvo B10M articulated with a CAMO body. I've got something that might be of interest. Portuguese connections... OM646 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyland Worldmaster Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 On 11/02/2021 at 8:36 AM, busmansholiday said: Cracking chod not to mention the buses. This is AMAZING!!! Unfortunately the Leyland National wasn't suited to the Operating Conditions; you might notice the enlarged ventilation grille at the back. I read they got so hot, the rear seat passengers got warm backsides... Low Ground Clearance was a problem too. They did not have long service lives. Still, great to see some Leyland National, Leyland\MCW Olympic and LAD Cabbed Lorry action! I think at the time of production, JOS was still a BET Company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyland Worldmaster Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Plenty of Jonkheere Shite to be found in the spiritual successor... https://jutc.gov.jm/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyland Worldmaster Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 OK, as promised from my Leyland Motors Southeast Collection: Portuguese Connection... busmansholiday and OM646 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyland Worldmaster Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 The UTIC Leyland B52 is a Leyland Olympian with a different arse end. More Leyland stuff: Yoss and LightBulbFun 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OM646 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Leyland Worldmaster said: OK, as promised from my Leyland Motors Southeast Collection: Portuguese Connection... Holy moly! That's a UTIC Naup body! There used to be one parked not far from home, until about 2010.i think. Thanks a lot! Leyland Worldmaster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyland Worldmaster Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, Leyland Worldmaster said: The UTIC Leyland B52 is a Leyland Olympian with a different arse end. More Leyland stuff: Compare and contrast that Front Suspension design to a Volvo B10L/B7TL, etc... 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willswitchengage Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 20 minutes ago, Leyland Worldmaster said: The UTIC Leyland B52 is a Leyland Olympian with a different arse end. More Leyland stuff: Wasn't that the Titan? Yes, plenty of great innovation. Were those London-specific buses were they used elsewhere in the country? I know Metrobi were most popular in their native Birmingham, and likewise Volvo's dominated in Glasgow. Bus regionalism. I remember Citaros often had indie front suspension too but never seen it in anything else. I thought B7s and Tridents had beams. LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyland Worldmaster Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 17 minutes ago, OM646 said: Holy moly! That's a UTIC Naup body! There used to be one parked not far from home, until about 2010.i think. Thanks a lot! My pleasure! No information about the Bodywork, so it's great to know what it is! I wonder how many Leyland UTIC B52 types were built. I bet it handled nicely with that Olympian suspension! 😎 OM646 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyland Worldmaster Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, willswitchengage said: Wasn't that the Titan? Yes, plenty of great innovation. Were those London-specific buses were they used elsewhere in the country? I know Metrobi were most popular in their native Birmingham, and likewise Volvo's dominated in Glasgow. Bus regionalism. I remember Citaros often had indie front suspension too but never seen it in anything else. I thought B7s and Tridents had beams. The early B7TL had IFS; this was changed for what I call the Mk2... 👍 👍 👍 😎 😎 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyland Worldmaster Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 15 minutes ago, Leyland Worldmaster said: The early B7TL had IFS; this was changed for what I call the Mk2... 👍 👍 👍 😎 😎 😎 From my archives... I had a wonderful day on Rail Replacement with this fine machine. Was my first experience with a Voith Gearbox. Why are these transmissions so noisy? Anyway, here's some IFS Porn... 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyland Worldmaster Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Pictures from my pilgrimage to Leyland a few years ago... And a Copenhagen ELC Nordic Volvo. In Copenhagen. 😎👍 busmansholiday and LightBulbFun 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyland Worldmaster Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 I was inspired by the JOS Video, so I dug up some stuff. Brochure, etc. And this. A Crash Test. The Old Bloke Next Door 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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