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You have my most sincere sympathies. UVG bodied Javelin, is there anything worse out there??

No comment, I absolutely adore Javelins. Drove really nicely, C-series too so plenty guts about it.

It's not a looker, is it?

They never were... the WS Vanguard series weren't particularly pretty either but they were at least functional.

 

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Isn't that an SCC Cutlass built after Caetano took over UVG? Hopefully a bit better made than the UVG originals whose windscreens had a habit of falling out. I actually don't think it looks too bad as basic bum shifters go.

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Isn't that an SCC Cutlass built after Caetano took over UVG? Hopefully a bit better made than the UVG originals whose windscreens had a habit of falling out. I actually don't think it looks too bad as basic bum shifters go.

Possibly. It absolutely reeked of damp and felt really cramped even for a 70-seater.

 

Anyway, it was a loaner; back in my preferred chariot now.539648379cd1559cbb2f87a883df96e7.jpg

 

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Possibly. It absolutely reeked of damp and felt really cramped even for a 70-seater.

 

Anyway, it was a loaner; back in my preferred chariot now.539648379cd1559cbb2f87a883df96e7.jpg

 

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That looks like it's a good drive...

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Drum brakes on TL11 Oiliycans with the 245 in had a habit of erm well, thank feck for spring parking brakes..... A brake pedal that goes to the floor is a real squeaky bum monet

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72 seats, Volvo engine, no retarder, no speed limiter and Leyland drum brakes... it's not bad ;)

 

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I'd tend to prefer a retarder if relying on those brakes...hope they're better than the ones on the Leopard that I very nearly embedded in the roundabout at the Aberdeen side of Kintore one afternoon after finding out what it would do down the hill.

 

She a proper bus with real gears I take it, or an auto?

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No comment, I absolutely adore Javelins. Drove really nicely, C-series too so plenty guts about it.

I have to say I’ve driven several Javelins and only two were any good at all - most were gutless pieces of shite. We had 3 of the UVG-bodied things at Tanat Valley, from a drivers perspective they were cramped and slow.

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Yutongs are actually not bad at all, well liked in the industry; early TC12s ran Cummins engines but moved onto DAF after the first batch, TC9s all run Cummins. Dealer support is allegedly first rate through Pelican.

 

King Long was the original Chinese attack on the market but spares availability was virtually nil... later examples were much better but by that time the damage was done.

 

Latest round of PSV imports from China are from LDV - admittedly in up to 17 seat conversions - and Higer, who have been doing pretty well in a joint venture with Scania (the 'Touring') and more recently in ROI with the integral Cummins-powered Super 9.

 

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Shows as 6700cc is this the way the industry is going like 1.0 turbo cars with 120 bhp?

 

Lists it as an automatic are there still manuals in coaches?

 

 

Yes, smaller engines with bigger turbos. There probably is a manual option available in some coaches but very rare to see one now. Most are either proper automatics or robotised manuals like the ZF iShit. 

 

Give me a B10M with a 6-speed manual any day.

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Shows as 6700cc is this the way the industry is going like 1.0 turbo cars with 120 bhp?

 

Lists it as an automatic are there still manuals in coaches?

6700cc is the latest 6-cylinder variant of the long standing Cummins B-series; power is in the 285bhp range IIRC, we had the same ISB6/ZF auto in our old Temsa MD9 and it went like a stabbed rat.

 

I believe VDL still offer a proper manual in their Futura 2 but from memory they've only sold one in the UK.

 

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Today.

 

And the rest of the week.

 

Urgh.29c2d4d9ced539f6650a5f2269119318.jpg

 

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Tut, tut. Putting my old H&S hat on, the COSHH regs require you to be 'clean shaven' if you're going to wear a dust mask as well as having been 'fit tested'.

 

Just saying !!!

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Possibly. It absolutely reeked of damp and felt really cramped even for a 70-seater.

 

Anyway, it was a loaner; back in my preferred chariot now.539648379cd1559cbb2f87a883df96e7.jpg

 

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I have vivid memories of a First Manchester one of these, the rear suspension clunked so hard it would rattle your teeth, it accelerated with all the haste of a one-legged tortoise, and once the throttle seemed to be stuck wide open going into town, this bothered it not much since it seemed to struggle to get above 20mph with what seemed to be 2nd and 3rd in the gears fighting a war over which gets to be in use.  

 

Looked like this :

 

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Tut, tut. Putting my old H&S hat on, the COSHH regs require you to be 'clean shaven' if you're going to wear a dust mask as well as having been 'fit tested'.

 

Just saying !!!

You have to die of something.

 

If it helps any I'm here in the workshop myself too, on an office chair (doing locker doors on the offside now) using air tools without ear defenders AND the bus is parked over an unmarked, unbarriered pit.

 

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Spent many a happy* hour driving around Stockingford and Whitestones in those feckers...

I remember those things. Could have sworn they use to run around in GMPTE "Little Gem" colours in Manchester but all I can find are earlier Ivecos and later Metroriders so maybe not.

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GMPTE had Northern Counties bodied Dodges in Little Gem livery, as at the time they owned NC in Wigan, they also had a small batch of Dennis Dominos again with NCME bodywork.

 

Anyhow, watch an Enviro go for a swim in Essex. Unrelated, but same named operator in York did the same with an Enviro Dart, and that driver got banged up for a year!

 

 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-essex-47697159/bus-driver-misjudges-wallasea-island-flood-water

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Is the 'not in service' on that So-slow because he was waiting time or because it was fucked (my bet).

 

Don't know it was gone when I returned an hour later, although from my observations they do seem to break down more frequently than other operators.

 

https://www.expressandstar.com/news/local-hubs/walsall/2017/12/08/school-evacuated-as-bus-bursts-into-flames-in-walsall---watch/

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