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That does highlight quite well how much a bus was just a box over a chassis back then and how much dead space there is under there in the days before low floor became a thing.

 

Is a shame the days of the chassis being driven from the maker to coachbuilder are long gone...that must have been a fun job, cracking one in the summer!

 

Have driven a Volvo B58 sans body while it was being stripped down (sadly to finally be dismantled, we had hoped it might get a further lease of life, but was not to be, though the engine and box did live on), and can vouch for performance being "lively" with several tonnes of body out of the way, sounded nice with the pesky exhaust out the way. Was however also alarmingly easy to lock the brakes though!

 

That road and rail thing isn't something I've ever seen before...will have to have a look at some point...nice that they've used an RE, at least they went with something that could shift...

For RE read LH and for "shift" read "...."

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I drove it from Birmingham (Washwood Heath?) to Coventry and then to Brum city centre September 1982, as a favour. The steering was extremely heavy at low speed with no power steering, but ok on the road. Never having driven a bus before, I have nothing to compare it with, but it seemed lively enough. Picked it up from a social club, nobody about, climbed in, found the ignition switch, pushed the starter button. No key needed. I remember driving through Small Heath wondering what the regular 'ting' noise was. Turned out to be side mirror touching the 'No Parking' signs along the Coventry Road.

I think it was an engineering exercise rather than a serious proposal. The idea had surfaced before here and in other countries. Don't suppose anybody knows what happened to it.

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Celtic Travel near us have some new buses. They look absolutely horrible.

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That's more like it. I do like extra wipers.

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The worst buses i've ever seen are run by my local company. Horrid little Wright streetlites, They look bad anyway, but the livery makes them 1000x times worse.

 

They look like 1970's Russian military carriers reimagined to try and look "futuristic".

 

Awful.

 

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As a side note, how the hell is it possible to design something that badly that 2 thirds of the windscreen frontage is take up by the dashboard?, At any point during the design stage (like something that looks like that had one) pipe up and say "Lads..... it doesn't fit?"

 

It's clearly a mash of parts from bigger buses thrown onto a smaller chassis and mashed up to cover it.

 

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Anyone who okayed any part of it should have been instantly fired,

 

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Ah, the Bristol LH, or little horror (the VR was known as Very Rubbish). Driven a fair few in my time, Leyland 400 in the short ones.

On one occasion I had a Marshall bodied one, (NBC had a few none ECW bodied examples) when their cheap design played a blinder. Now on ECW bodied ones the radiator filler was under the cab window, easy to fill with a hose. On these particular ones the filler was inside on the middle of the dash panel, small flap you lifted the poured the watering can of water down or over the inside depending on how well it had been cleaned.

 

So, there I am heading up a very long hill into Chesterfield one morning chatting to my conductor who's sat on the dash, back to the windscreen, looking at the punters, when the little horror boiled (OMGHGF). As the windscreen was suddenly covered in steam, so was my conductors bollocks. The scream he let out, followed by his dance around the platform as he tried to cool his 'boiled in the bag bollocks' nearly made me crash!! The punters didn't stop laughing all the way into Chesterfield!!!!

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No Ford A-series story should be complete without the fucking hopeless Asco Clubman.

 

Interestingly EVERY body Ascough built it appears was named Clubman... the most popular were Leyland EAs, which says a lot I think.b0c8ba6386149095bf633c796d042fc3.jpg08d1b07abb47f9f68dcae6d045e8a955.jpg

 

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I have never seen an EA bus and/or coach before. It's hard to tell from this picture, I mean it looks like a coach and either has air con or no ventilation at all. But on the other hand it's an EA, something synonymous with being a Royal Mail van.

 

This thread is now complete. Very well done indeed.

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They were fairly popular for what they were; the NBC took small numbers as well, along with Reeve Burgess bodied CFs.

 

McLay (and others) did body Leyland FGs too, mostly for the welfare sector.

 

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Funnily enough, when Cleveland Transit got those attractive* Northern Counties A series things, they also plumped for a couple of Asco EAs,

 

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The minibuses came just after the formation of Cleveland Transit from the old Teesside Municipal Transport authority, in order to service the new out of town housing estates that sprung up in the early '70s. They must have been a joy to pilot fully laden around the hills of Guisborough and Yarm...

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Veg dribble and masturbate over anything Bristol, but, they were all built down to a price, and it really showed, the LH was a complete lash up, and the LHS was fucking lethal to drive in the wet, no arse end, and a fair bit of oomph, I have had MUA45P in a near drift on a roundabout in Chesterfield, and the bloody thing would do about 80 flat out given enough road, the Turner 5 speed manual had a huge yawning gap in the ratios from 4th-5th, so you basically had to thrash the crap out of it to keep up momentum, and the 401 isn't exactly a quiet lump, steering actually heavier than an RE.

 

On the subject of Irish plasticrap, the Streetshite is costing the manufacturer punters, due to the massive unreliability, and piss poor back up. Drivers hate them, as they are horrid to drive, and feel like they will fall to pieces at any second. ADL and Optare are picking up former Wright customers, if ADL did a WF version of the E200, that would kill off the lamp post completely

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Veg dribble and masturbate over anything Bristol, but, they were all built down to a price, and it really showed, the LH was a complete lash up, and the LHS was fucking lethal to drive in the wet, no arse end, and a fair bit of oomph, I have had MUA45P in a near drift on a roundabout in Chesterfield, and the bloody thing would do about 80 flat out given enough road, the Turner 5 speed manual had a huge yawning gap in the ratios from 4th-5th, so you basically had to thrash the crap out of it to keep up momentum, and the 401 isn't exactly a quiet lump, steering actually heavier than an RE.

 

On the subject of Irish plasticrap, the Streetshite is costing the manufacturer punters, due to the massive unreliability, and piss poor back up. Drivers hate them, as they are horrid to drive, and feel like they will fall to pieces at any second. ADL and Optare are picking up former Wright customers, if ADL did a WF version of the E200, that would kill off the lamp post completely

Some of the late MAN based ALX-300 buses Bluebird had from around 05/6 would spin up the rear wheels on a roundabout if the road was wet at full throttle when dropping from first to second gear. Especially the two which seemed to have a gearbox set to what appeared to be "sport mode" and would rev right to the top of the scale on the rev counter before changing down. They could bloody shift, didn't sound too bad either.

 

I stand corrected on the LH being crap... it's not one I've come across before. The last Bristol I came across with that body was an RE and I'd assumed this was the same. The only RE I've driven could definitely shift.

 

Have never had the opportunity to travel on a VR. Which I found as a major problem given how epic they seem to sound at speed based on what I've seen from a few YouTube videos...

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from domes youtube channel

 

what the hell is this? (looks like some big fuck off lorry cab with a coach body glued to the back)

 

I saw that when I was out there and felt compelled to write about it when I got home.

 

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Alas, I was too tight to actually pay to ride on it. Next time, perhaps.

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Nice to see a Supreme earning its keep. I've not driven a Streetlite so can't comment on them. Some of the worst I have driven are the Optare Excel, ugly, cheap things that fall apart as soon as you look at them, ALX300/MAN 18.220, slow ponderous things with a turning circle worse than the Bismarks and anything with MCV bodywork, cheap Egyptian rubbish. I drove an EvoSeti when it was about a fortnight old and thought it was going to fall apart there were that many bangs and rattles.  

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^^^^ Holding it's 36 years very well indeed. New to Bates of Appledore, to me the interesting thing is it has the next chassis number to one of National Travel's old B10Ms which I drove a few times, OHE268X.

 

National Travel East really upset the applecart by buying those, they were the first NBC company to buy Volvo coaches. Fed up with strikes at BL, the demise of our beloved AEC Reliance and the crapness of the Tiger in comparison (we had all three gearbox options), the management declared UDI. The rest is history.

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Crikey, can't be many Supreme IVs still earning their keep in general service day to day. Last time I saw one on school duty was GIB7513 before Amber Travel lost the contract running past my folk's house. Was scruffy Premieres after that. Would have been 2005/6 probably.

 

Only Supreme I've seen anywhere in the wild since was last year...broken down in lane 3 on the M25.

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^^^^ Holding it's 36 years very well indeed. New to Bates of Appledore, to me the interesting thing is it has the next chassis number to one of National Travel's old B10Ms which I drove a few times, OHE268X.

 

National Travel East really upset the applecart by buying those, they were the first NBC company to buy Volvo coaches. Fed up with strikes at BL, the demise of our beloved AEC Reliance and the crapness of the Tiger in comparison (we had all three gearbox options), the management declared UDI. The rest is history.

 

Scotland and Bates at Appledore are local to me and still going strong,always very clean and tidy and very well maintained,still sporting the same colours.

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Streetlites eh? I'm unfortunate enough to have driven quite a few of the big "DF" ones.

They are mostly slow, have appalling brakes and rattle like bastards. The steering is both heavy and vague but they actually grip like fuck if you get it wound up enough. The reliability is woeful, the build quality hilariously poor and the ride is abysmal. The windscreen reflections make them a nightmare to drive at night as well, not helped by piss poor LED headlights. In short, they're by far the worst buses at our depot and I'd much rather have one of the baggy Volvo B7TLs for a week than a Streetlite for an afternoon.

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How to improve a Streetshite, it involves a pile of oily rags and METRO papers, plus 5 litres of supermarket unleaded, you can tell they are accountant led on the design, made from the cheapest materials they could find, then lobbed a quid off each component's cost for good measure, and Wright are wondering why their punters are going elsewhere

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MCV's are Egyptian? Well I never, you live and learn, I always thought they were a re-incarnation of MCW.

 

As a non-bus person (driver or passenger) I've admired EYMS's MCV's from afar - they look both modern and smart to me

 

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^^ Sure are Egyptian, think it stands for Manufacturers Commercial Vehicles.

 

Previous to that there was the Ghabbour Bros who bodied coaches & buses. Got to have a short drive of one of their well styled Scania bodied coaches in Romania many years ago.

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^^ Sure are Egyptian, think it stands for Manufacturers Commercial Vehicles.

 

Previous to that there was the Ghabbour Bros who bodied coaches & buses. Got to have a short drive of one of their well styled Scania bodied coaches in Romania many years ago.

I had a poke around MCV PROJECT 523 on the Volvo stand at Eurobus; not a bad product to be honest though fit and finish was a bit patchy - in fairness it was the first built.

 

Volvo B11R with front to back 3 year full Volvo warranty - body and chassis - for £185k... I'd seriously have considered it. By lunchtime on day one they had already sold 11 of the 25 in the first stock batch.

 

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Well today I had the displeasure of actually travelling on a Streetlite for the first time. Oh boy...what a piece of utter garbage.

 

Ride: closest I've experienced before was on an Atlantean which had totally seized front shock absorbers.

 

Drivetrain: idle vibration meant that you actually couldn't read the text on the window signage because it was shaking that much. Wasn't helped by the fact that the gearbox was set up so the thing never went above about 1600rpm the entire trip.

 

Interior lighting on this one was only working when we went over a bump.

 

Just overall rattle and buzz levels have to be witnessed to be believed, think clapped out early 90s Northern Counties Palatine but worse...

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MCV's are Egyptian? Well I never, you live and learn, I always thought they were a re-incarnation of MCW.

Through six degrees of seperation they're very, very distantly related to Marshalls at Cambridge.

 

Very distantly.

 

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