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where I live I am a regular bus passenger, I refuse point black to pay for parking in the town. combine this with the fuel cost and the bus route is right past my front door, its cheaper and easier. it amuses me that on the 6 mile, stopping to pick up every few hundred yards bus ride, I am the only one who actually has to pay money to the driver. curse being employed!

Buses are mostly 12-14 year old half size Dennis single deck things, they really struggle on the welsh valley hills

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Merthyr Tydfil has a vintage bus show every september, its gotten very popular now and has a good turnout of bus shite. They have free rides around town so its worth a look. heres some spots..

Bristol RE

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Bristol MW, harrington cavlier (I think)

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volvo ailsa

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Interior of Plaxton body AEC reliance

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AEC regent decker..this was immaculate inside and out

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Leyland Leopard with an o.680. sounds gorgeous

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I dsperately want a ride on a mk1 Leyland national but nobody is running one

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Like the Cardiff Bristol VR. Other than an open top one, I didnt know there were any left.

 

Is it a VR? I thought it was an ailsa? still I'm not not an expert but can't remember Cardiff corp running Bristols. they ran volvo ailsas well into shitedom, only getting rid of them into the 2000s

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Like the Cardiff Bristol VR. Other than an open top one, I didnt know there were any left.

 

Is it a VR? I thought it was an ailsa? still I'm not not an expert but can't remember Cardiff corp running Bristols. they ran volvo ailsas well into shitedom, only getting rid of them into the 2000s

 

 

Aye, it's a Bristol VR. Cardiff bought a rake of them new, all fully auto too - some with ultra-rare Maxwell gearboxes.

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ok thanks for that. it was the large black grill on the front that threw me, the national welsh VRTs (and the wilts and dorset ones) had a much smaller mesh grill on the front

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ok thanks for that. it was the large black grill on the front that threw me, the national welsh VRTs (and the wilts and dorset ones) had a much smaller mesh grill on the front

 

 

Yeah, it was a feature of the Alexander body (the company who built most bodies on Ailsas) - Bristol VRs, early Dennis Dominators, early MCW Metrobuses, Ailsas, Volvo Citybuses, Leyland Victory 2s, Guy Victorys and Dennis Jubliants among others all carried the same grille.

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I think it was only Cardiff and Northampton who had VRs with Alexander bodies but Northampton's had two doors. Cardiff also had some similar Alexander-bodied Ailsas bought secondhand from Fife Scottish.

 

Oh, and the Harrington coach is a Grenadier rather than a Cavalier. Good guess though as they're basically very similar.

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I think it was only Cardiff and Northampton who had VRs with Alexander bodies but Northampton's had two doors. Cardiff also had some similar Alexander-bodied Ailsas bought secondhand from Fife Scottish.

 

 

And Tayside, who bought long wheelbase VRT/LL3s new with Alexander bodies and two doors. Quite imposing things; myself and a colleague went to look at one with a view to possibly preservation, but it had been wired with mains gas, water and electricity so sadly the deal didn't go ahead...

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The Cedar one was OSR204R. Funny you should mention Cedar as they have a decent fleet now but for years were the kings of bus shite in my neck of the woods. They had some weird old rammel, including what seemed like every type of double-decker made in the 70s/80s. Some highlights were Atlanteans and Fleetlines galore, Leyland Lions and Swifts, Dennis Falcons (both of which caught fire...), a Bristol LH, Dennis Lancet, Seddon Pennine, Wright Contour etc etc.

 

Here's a few of their fleet:

Turkish BMC thing with tiny wheels

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Turkish delight by quicksilver coaches, on Flickr

 

Greenline Berkhof Tiger

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Mount Everest by quicksilver coaches, on Flickr

 

Leyland Lion

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Pride of Lions by quicksilver coaches, on Flickr

 

Geordie Atlantean

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Exiled Geordie by quicksilver coaches, on Flickr

 

HK Dennis Condor

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Cedar Condor by quicksilver coaches, on Flickr

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I think it was only Cardiff and Northampton who had VRs with Alexander bodies but Northampton's had two doors. Cardiff also had some similar Alexander-bodied Ailsas bought secondhand from Fife Scottish.

 

 

Lincoln City transport had various VRs with none ECW bodies

 

including some Alexanders - though according to the flickr caption with this one it's one of the Tayside vehicles

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5025249209/

 

and the uber square shaped East Lancs ones

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6432674157/

 

and Lincoln's two bus stations must qualify for some kind of Autoshite award - the gloomy , dark concrete brutalism of the 'City Bus Station'

 

http://thelincolnite.co.uk/2011/09/quic ... s-station/

 

and the utilitarian 'Shed-ness' of St Marks

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/4370523487/

 

just to add another shiteness value LCT Atlantean with a Sunblest FG in the background http://www.flickr.com/photos/bryan_a_sm ... 869169644/

 

and to Deshite it slightly - the treat of getting fleet 46 /7/8 as a service bus - the coach seated Olympians or the Semi Caach Volvo DDs ( with huge walk in boot )

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6222809957

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] ... otostream/

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where I live I am a regular bus passenger, I refuse point black to pay for parking in the town.

 

I am not familiar with any Welsh towns, but in England (apart from the smoke, of course) you can usually park for free just outside of the city centre and walk the last 15 minutes or so. You may, however, need to spend a couple of evenings researching parking restrictions, residential streets etc.

 

 

 

it amuses me that on the 6 mile, stopping to pick up every few hundred yards bus ride, I am the only one who actually has to pay money to the driver.

 

Could be that the more regular passengers just buy an annual pass.

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where I live I am a regular bus passenger, I refuse point black to pay for parking in the town.

 

I am not familiar with any Welsh towns, but in England (apart from the smoke, of course) you can usually park for free just outside of the city centre and walk the last 15 minutes or so. You may, however, need to spend a couple of evenings researching parking restrictions, residential streets etc.

Nope. no parking anywhere in town without pay and display. anyway, I drive all week for my job, its great to let someone else have a go!

 

 

 

it amuses me that on the 6 mile, stopping to pick up every few hundred yards bus ride, I am the only one who actually has to pay money to the driver.

 

Could be that the more regular passengers just buy an annual pass.

 

no, its just that I work funny shifts which means I ride the bus in the daytime when most people apart from pensioners are in work (free bus passes)

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Fabulous bus horror. I'm moved to further sully this thread with my own shit bus: a 1971 Duple Viceroy-bodied Bedford VAL70. It's both woefully underpowered and dangerously lacking in structural integrity. This example has the added benefit of being in really bad condition. Quite a lot of the mildew is structural, and the remnants of the rear window can still be seen glistening on the hard shoulder of the A14.

 

Sam

 

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OH. MY. GOD. I think you've just won this thread with that baby, it takes shabby chic to a whole new level. I've always loved those VALs and Viceroys are very rare now as Duple bodies of that era seemed to be made of balsa wood panelled in cardboard.

 

It had a sister too, which apparently now has even less structural integrity.

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Non-PCV Bedford VAL70 VDX115K at Manby Showground, June 1994 by Scatmancraig1974, on Flickr

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Fabulous bus horror. I'm moved to further sully this thread with my own shit bus: a 1971 Duple Viceroy-bodied Bedford VAL70. It's both woefully underpowered and dangerously lacking in structural integrity. This example has the added benefit of being in really bad condition. Quite a lot of the mildew is structural, and the remnants of the rear window can still be seen glistening on the hard shoulder of the A14.

 

Sam

 

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Dear God, that's quite simply fantastic. I hope you're planning to do it up?

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Even in that condition that VAL is a thing of Beauty! hope you get it done. Does it have the 466 Bedford lump? i was thinking the 500 turbo engine would go straight in if you wanted to risk it!

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A confession Re. Bedford VAL.

 

As you may know, while everbody else my age was playing football and smoking stolen fags in the alley behind the Co-Op, I used to draw cars. This was about ten years before I went to Uni to draw pictures properly, but I digress. When I first started secondary school my exposure to buses became much more pronounced. It wasn't long before I started to phase out drawing cars and started drawing coaches instead.

 

And then came a trip to RAF St Mawgan for the airshow. The planes should have been enough, what with the final flight of a Mosquito on the UK airshow scene, but lurking in the shadows was a Viceroy on a VAL. I knew about VALs, I'd seen The Italian Job like everybody else, but I'd never seen a Duple Viceroy in the flesh before and to say it made an impression was a wholesale understatement.

 

I knew it was twenty years old, but it seemed to have come from some Gerry Anderson parallel future. It looked impossibly rakish, powerful, even sporty with those cowled headlamps. And all that glass. Such a contrast from the Plaxton Viewmasters and Duple Lasers I rode in every day. But most of all it the wheelplan that impressed me. Those smaller wheels helped the proportions and made the whole plot look vast and imposing. Pretty soon crazy rooflines capped everything I drew.

 

I grew out of it after a while and went back to drawing cars, but, just before university temptation got the better of me and I got the pens out again.

 

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VAL (of obscene length) for the 21st Century. By me, circa 10 years ago.

 

Fantastic work Mr Glover. Salutations.

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