dollywobbler

I think there is an Autoshite scene, or actually, there are two. Both stick two fingers up to the world and feature cars that no-one else likes. The difference is that one school finds great joy in driving around in cars that look pretty ropey, while there's a separate school that likes these unloved cars in truly superb condition. Long may it continue as I find great joy in both.
 
I love factory standard, though I'm not absolute purist - my 2CV is proof of that. 
 
As for 'scenesters,' it's like any sort of modification. There are those that do it well, and those who make a real flamin' mess of it. Sadly, there are far more in the latter camp purely because to modify well is not easy and can be expensive. How many Morris Minors had proper half-job "V8 and Jag back axle" custom jobs back in the 1980s? And Mk1 Escorts for that matter? Some were superb. Many were hopeless.

Not fail laning. I STILL really like this car. Desperately in need of radius arm bushes I feel - getting a bit clonky now. 

Not fail laning. I STILL really like this car. Desperately in need of radius arm bushes I feel - getting a bit clonky now. 

Not fail laning. I STILL really like this car. Desperately in need of radius arm bushes I feel - getting a bit clonky now. 

Not fail laning. I STILL really like this car. Desperately in need of radius arm bushes I feel - getting a bit clonky now. 

There has been but they usually get scared off by people making unfunny suggestive jokes.

I really can't believe people are arguing against the stats. Young drivers, especially young blokes ARE dangerous. Am I the only one here who's going to admit to really being a bit shit as a 17-year old driver? Scares me to think of some of the antics I got up to - and yes, most of those antics were late at night.
 
I don't think waiting a year would have made me any better though. It isn't a lack of training that makes you dangerous, just being a bit of a twat and thinking you know it all, which is what being a teenager is largely about. A disabled school chum was able to drive at 16! Now he really did have some adventures. I'm amazed none of us were killed to be honest.
 
The biggest problem is that in learning to drive, you learn nothing about what happens when things go wrong. No skid training, no mention of what sort of driving may provoke a skid. I worked with a young girl once who was furious about her 'shit' Ford Ka, because she'd gone into a bend too quickly, oversteered quite a lot and crashed. I was 19 when I experienced lift-off oversteer for the first time. It was unexpected and bloody terrifying. Managed to catch it somehow, but only because I'd trained myself in my Ford Fiesta using a snow-covered car park. Learnt a lot about understeer and oversteer doing that and would no doubt have been reported to the Police if anyone had seen me. Still wasn't enough to stop me binning a Subaru Impreza when I was 21...

One of my friends on Facebook was bemoaning the twat who demolished the back of his old Polo a few weeks ago....
 

 
But unlike the case would have been here, it wasn't written off by his insurers and he got it back yesterday.
 

I really can't believe people are arguing against the stats. Young drivers, especially young blokes ARE dangerous. Am I the only one here who's going to admit to really being a bit shit as a 17-year old driver? Scares me to think of some of the antics I got up to - and yes, most of those antics were late at night.
 
I don't think waiting a year would have made me any better though. It isn't a lack of training that makes you dangerous, just being a bit of a twat and thinking you know it all, which is what being a teenager is largely about. A disabled school chum was able to drive at 16! Now he really did have some adventures. I'm amazed none of us were killed to be honest.
 
The biggest problem is that in learning to drive, you learn nothing about what happens when things go wrong. No skid training, no mention of what sort of driving may provoke a skid. I worked with a young girl once who was furious about her 'shit' Ford Ka, because she'd gone into a bend too quickly, oversteered quite a lot and crashed. I was 19 when I experienced lift-off oversteer for the first time. It was unexpected and bloody terrifying. Managed to catch it somehow, but only because I'd trained myself in my Ford Fiesta using a snow-covered car park. Learnt a lot about understeer and oversteer doing that and would no doubt have been reported to the Police if anyone had seen me. Still wasn't enough to stop me binning a Subaru Impreza when I was 21...

I really can't believe people are arguing against the stats. Young drivers, especially young blokes ARE dangerous. Am I the only one here who's going to admit to really being a bit shit as a 17-year old driver? Scares me to think of some of the antics I got up to - and yes, most of those antics were late at night.
 
I don't think waiting a year would have made me any better though. It isn't a lack of training that makes you dangerous, just being a bit of a twat and thinking you know it all, which is what being a teenager is largely about. A disabled school chum was able to drive at 16! Now he really did have some adventures. I'm amazed none of us were killed to be honest.
 
The biggest problem is that in learning to drive, you learn nothing about what happens when things go wrong. No skid training, no mention of what sort of driving may provoke a skid. I worked with a young girl once who was furious about her 'shit' Ford Ka, because she'd gone into a bend too quickly, oversteered quite a lot and crashed. I was 19 when I experienced lift-off oversteer for the first time. It was unexpected and bloody terrifying. Managed to catch it somehow, but only because I'd trained myself in my Ford Fiesta using a snow-covered car park. Learnt a lot about understeer and oversteer doing that and would no doubt have been reported to the Police if anyone had seen me. Still wasn't enough to stop me binning a Subaru Impreza when I was 21...

I really can't believe people are arguing against the stats. Young drivers, especially young blokes ARE dangerous. Am I the only one here who's going to admit to really being a bit shit as a 17-year old driver? Scares me to think of some of the antics I got up to - and yes, most of those antics were late at night.
 
I don't think waiting a year would have made me any better though. It isn't a lack of training that makes you dangerous, just being a bit of a twat and thinking you know it all, which is what being a teenager is largely about. A disabled school chum was able to drive at 16! Now he really did have some adventures. I'm amazed none of us were killed to be honest.
 
The biggest problem is that in learning to drive, you learn nothing about what happens when things go wrong. No skid training, no mention of what sort of driving may provoke a skid. I worked with a young girl once who was furious about her 'shit' Ford Ka, because she'd gone into a bend too quickly, oversteered quite a lot and crashed. I was 19 when I experienced lift-off oversteer for the first time. It was unexpected and bloody terrifying. Managed to catch it somehow, but only because I'd trained myself in my Ford Fiesta using a snow-covered car park. Learnt a lot about understeer and oversteer doing that and would no doubt have been reported to the Police if anyone had seen me. Still wasn't enough to stop me binning a Subaru Impreza when I was 21...

Not as good on roundabouts then though.

Just because I was virtually rummaging through some old photos, I thought it might be a good idea to hurl up pics of some of your old chod from eight years ago.
 
Here's my 2CV, in France. I'd owned it for five years by this stage. Believe it or not, it was already halfway through a major restoration - the bodyshell had undergone a LOT of work and it now sat on a galvanised chassis. I couldn't afford to get the outer panels sorted though.

 
2005 was also the year in which I did a very silly though. I bought a 160bhp BX 16v from Keith Adams. It was sheer lunacy.

 
I actually paid good money for this. My first 4x4. It seemed to have no suspension at all. I should have bought a Discovery.

 
This was rather better.

 
£375, 2-litre 5-pot and ran well after I reversed the connections on the cooling fan so it actually sucked through the rad rather than blew...
 
Add yours!

Sad to see Queen Victoria is finally punting on her 127 Sport.
 

 
47k km, €1499. http://www.leboncoin.fr/voitures/549053227.htm?ca=12_s

Ah yes. I remember living in a terraced street. Two doors down, there was a right twat with a bleedin' huge Mazda 929 estate. He'd get VERY huffy if anyone parked outside his house. I generally didn't, but had once and found myself blocked in. I went round to complain, expecting him to be an arse, and he gave me a ceramic 2CV model and apologised!

Ah yes. I remember living in a terraced street. Two doors down, there was a right twat with a bleedin' huge Mazda 929 estate. He'd get VERY huffy if anyone parked outside his house. I generally didn't, but had once and found myself blocked in. I went round to complain, expecting him to be an arse, and he gave me a ceramic 2CV model and apologised!

I think there is an Autoshite scene, or actually, there are two. Both stick two fingers up to the world and feature cars that no-one else likes. The difference is that one school finds great joy in driving around in cars that look pretty ropey, while there's a separate school that likes these unloved cars in truly superb condition. Long may it continue as I find great joy in both.
 
I love factory standard, though I'm not absolute purist - my 2CV is proof of that. 
 
As for 'scenesters,' it's like any sort of modification. There are those that do it well, and those who make a real flamin' mess of it. Sadly, there are far more in the latter camp purely because to modify well is not easy and can be expensive. How many Morris Minors had proper half-job "V8 and Jag back axle" custom jobs back in the 1980s? And Mk1 Escorts for that matter? Some were superb. Many were hopeless.

Ah yes. I remember living in a terraced street. Two doors down, there was a right twat with a bleedin' huge Mazda 929 estate. He'd get VERY huffy if anyone parked outside his house. I generally didn't, but had once and found myself blocked in. I went round to complain, expecting him to be an arse, and he gave me a ceramic 2CV model and apologised!

Have you hooked up a fuel can and tried towing the Xantia with the AX yet? Hope you've locked the steering or it'll be very entertaining!

I really can't believe people are arguing against the stats. Young drivers, especially young blokes ARE dangerous. Am I the only one here who's going to admit to really being a bit shit as a 17-year old driver? Scares me to think of some of the antics I got up to - and yes, most of those antics were late at night.
 
I don't think waiting a year would have made me any better though. It isn't a lack of training that makes you dangerous, just being a bit of a twat and thinking you know it all, which is what being a teenager is largely about. A disabled school chum was able to drive at 16! Now he really did have some adventures. I'm amazed none of us were killed to be honest.
 
The biggest problem is that in learning to drive, you learn nothing about what happens when things go wrong. No skid training, no mention of what sort of driving may provoke a skid. I worked with a young girl once who was furious about her 'shit' Ford Ka, because she'd gone into a bend too quickly, oversteered quite a lot and crashed. I was 19 when I experienced lift-off oversteer for the first time. It was unexpected and bloody terrifying. Managed to catch it somehow, but only because I'd trained myself in my Ford Fiesta using a snow-covered car park. Learnt a lot about understeer and oversteer doing that and would no doubt have been reported to the Police if anyone had seen me. Still wasn't enough to stop me binning a Subaru Impreza when I was 21...

Have you hooked up a fuel can and tried towing the Xantia with the AX yet? Hope you've locked the steering or it'll be very entertaining!

Crikey. Consumer television does still happen then. Sort of. I love how 'grippy' it looked, being driven gently around some corners. Inspiring. But she was quite cute.

I have absolutely no experience of this car and it would therefore be foolish of me to commit to an opinion. Said no-one on the internet, ever.

Only one of these I've driven was black and a friend owns a purple one. Can't recall ever seeing a silver one, but I can't say I'd really look out for one. Bloody horrible, hateful little cars. Well bought Cavette!

Oh shut up. I'm not going to be told which cars I'm allowed to enjoy. I've sold the Golf, bought something for half the price that I really enjoy and have actual money to play with.