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#1 OFFLINE   MrRegieRitmo

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 12:38 PM

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 12:44 PM

Very nice - should loose the front fogs though.

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Have they colour coded the bumpers and mirrors?

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 12:57 PM

Go on then Reg- incentive there ot sort yours! Wouldnt take much........
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Posted 02 April 2008 - 01:07 PM

I wouldn't bother with the 1980s Barry mods though. At least the grille escaped colour-coding

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 02:21 PM

It does look in excellent condition, but "lovely" is not a word I'd ever use about a Renault 14! One of their least successful designes, aesthetically, I think.

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 04:02 PM

Isn't beauty in the eye of the beholder? Who's to say that the angular lines of the R16 are more pleasing to the eye than the curvier lines of the R14? It's all down to what you like!The R16 is hailed as a true classic & the definition of a successful Renault, but I've never been impressed by popular cars, that's why I'm on here showing my appreciation of Autoshite! (although I do have love for the R16). Besides the R16 wasn't competing against the Escort & the Golf (which funnily enough are my least favoured out of the R14, Horizon, Strada, Escort, Golf, GS, 305, & Alfasud small family car sector!).By the same token, if I saw an R25 in nice condition, I would take a pic if I had my camera on me but I wouldn't consider it lovely. If I saw an R20 in nice condition on the other hand, I would definitely consider it lovely, regardless of which was deemed the more successful. That's just my preference. :wink:

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 04:08 PM

I like the renner quatorze too, anyone know any history of how they ended up with one of those PSA engine and box things that lie flat on their back?

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 04:11 PM

Wouldn't argue with a word you say above Reggie- I was only expressing my opinion, no offence intended!!

#9 OFFLINE   MrRegieRitmo

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 04:20 PM

Have they colour coded the bumpers and mirrors?

It does look like they've been painted silver, which was a bad move IMO

#10 OFFLINE   MrRegieRitmo

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 04:26 PM

Wouldn't argue with a word you say above Reggie- I was only expressing my opinion, no offence intended!!

Sorry, I'll get down of my soapbox now! :oops: Each to his own & all that.....

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 04:28 PM

I like the renner quatorze too, anyone know any history of how they ended up with one of those PSA engine and box things that lie flat on their back?

This explains a little bit, but I'm sure there is a more in depth reasoning I've read before somewhere. I'll have to root around a bit on the web...this is from the R14 / R18 tribute site.http://ptikem.free.fr/history.htm

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 04:32 PM

From Wikipedia....The Renault 14 was a small family car produced by the French manufacturer Renault between 1976 and 1983.Featuring front wheel drive, the 14 was developed as a competitor in the small family car segment, which had been opened up by the Volkswagen Golf. Initially, the 14 was available in L and TL trim levels with a 1.2 L single overhead camshaft engine sourced from Peugeot; later 1.4 L versions with 60 PS (59 hp/44 kW) (R14 GTL) or 70 PS (69 hp/51 kW) (R14 TS) joined the line-up. The design was generally well thought out and practical with interior space a major selling point, including a rear seat that could either be folded or removed completely. In addition, the spare wheel was carried at the front, under the bonnet and above the transverse 4-cylinder engine that was inclined backwards by 72°.Things got off to a bad start with a disastrous advertising campaign that compared the 14 to the shape of a pear. A preview at Paris' Pompidou Centre as a bare bodyshell did little to win it customers. The car would later gain a reputation for premature body corrosion which saw the 14 being dubbed as the "rotten pear" by the motoring press. In France, "La poire"' (literally "the pear", but also slang for "gullible") still refers to the 14.The car also had a reputation for being difficult to start in damp conditions.Renault later attempted to enhance the car's appeal by relaunching it with improved equipment levels, but the damage was done and the production run ended in 1983 with around one million units sold over a period of just under seven years. The 14 is now a rare sight on the roads of Europe, even in its home country of France where they have tended to last longer than elsewhere due mainly to easy parts availability through the extensive dealer network.Its joint successors, the 9 and 11 appeared in 1982 and early 1983, respectively.

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 04:46 PM

Not sure about the "hard to start in damp conditions" bit, I seem to recall they used to eat camshafts though, and were a bit of a bugger to fix what with the 72deg slant of the engine.Over 1mil sold in 7 years ain't too shabby a production run, though.

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 04:56 PM

I remember lots of 14's failing MOT's for excessive rust when I first started work in 1985/86.....considering the oldest ones would only be 9 or 10 by then the rotten pear seems a good description!I didn't like them back then but do like the shape now..
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Posted 02 April 2008 - 05:05 PM

My first two cars were 14s - a "w" plate TS and a "y" plate GTL. Both of them, both in terms of the body(on the TS) and the mechanics(on the GTL)were terrible. Both were totally shit - and so was my sister's TL years ago.Would I have another?Too right :!: Simply because nothing I've owned since - including some 16s, has been as much fun to drive as the TS - which was a stormer.What happened to that green one that appeared on here a while back?

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 06:33 PM

a "y" plate GTL.

That was very late! I understood that there weren't any over here beyond X reg. Are you aware if they made it onto the prefix reg plates? R20/30 lasted till A reg didn't it, or was anyone aware of any B plates or later? :shock:

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 10:42 PM

Oh yes!

CBF 282 Y - in burgundy with cream velour.

When I back-traded it for a "V" plate 18TL (after 3 months of mechanical horror) there was another Y-plate 14TL at B.S.Marsons, the dealer as-was in Newcastle-Under-Lyme. I remember it well as it was in that sick orange Sahara Beige that Renault offered in 1982.

However, I can top that one, as years later (about 1994) I saw an immaculate woodland green A-plate TS in Chesterfield, followed by another A-plate champagne beige metallic TL at Car Transplants yard in Nantwich. The R14 was in Renault's UK 1983 catalogue - and was listed alongside the R11 range when it appeared in July 1983.

Can we now close the whole R14 thing, PLEASE. . .

I've just been doing a Worldwide Ebay search and it's not doing me any good :wink: :wink:

George Rhodes, the dealership at Biddulph in Stoke, also used to have the odd secondhand B plate R20TX (all were the TX model) for sale during the early 90's AND they also registered some 18 Deauvilles on D plates as well-probably not meant to. I remember looking at a white D-plate Deauville 18TS saloon - 17,000 miles £2995, Oh yes :lol:

Top cap it all however, was the (UNREGISTERED) R17TS soft top in Black, with the white boutique stripes, amil alloys and every other extra that was on display at Marson's garage in Wolstanton (near Stoke) in May 1981 when my dad bought our 15GTL. God knows how they kept that one in stock, over two years after they disappeared from the catalogue.

Probably due to the fact that the R17TS was massively expensive for what it was:-

£4221+351.75 car tax=£4938!

A 16TX Auto was only £4945.59 all-in and a yet-to-be-released R18GTS Auto just £4503.33! (Source Renault Price list, effective 8th Jan 1979 - seat belts fitted to all models at no extra cost)

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 11:15 PM

I've just been doing a Worldwide Ebay search and it's not doing me any good :wink: :wink:

Speaking of eBay it seems a 'Worldwide' search isn't all it's cracked up to be. If I do a worldwide search for "Renault 14" I get 90 results but if I go to ebay.fr I get 109 results on Worldwide search. Why are some things not coming up on eBay.co.uk? :x So much for the global market place!

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 07:08 AM

because if you do a worldwide search it will only throw up stuff which can be shipped to the UK. But if you lok on eBay.fr you will see everything on there including stuff which will only be shipped withing france.

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 08:31 AM

OIC ta!How many eBay sites are there in total then? (so if I wanted to search for "Renault 14" on every single version of eBay's sites & get results from every country)

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 01:02 PM

Have they colour coded the bumpers and mirrors?

It does look like they've been painted silver, which was a bad move IMO

Difficult to tell at first; all R14s seem to have come out of the factory with the exterior plastic bits moulded in a shade only marginally darker than 3-week-old-dogshit white :lol:

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 01:12 PM

I had a 14GTL as my second car back in 92. Coming out of Dublin one day temp light came on, but did not appear to be getting hot(fan had failed). Kept driving it home(about 80 miles) no problem. Surely the wind would keep it cool.Next day, big rusty pool of water underneath. Had cracked the alu.block down between no 3 and 4 cylinder. Drove it to the nearest scrap/exchange yard,,,and drove home the proud owner of a 1983 Fuego GTS,,,,,which was not as clean as the one I have now and that was 16 years ago. Old Renaults get better with age!!! :D :lol:

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 01:19 PM

I also thought that Renault took their inspiration for the R19 from the R14.John

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 01:23 PM

How so?

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 01:25 PM

5 door hatch back innit!

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 01:27 PM

EXACTLY :wink:

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 01:50 PM

Oh, I assumed it was going to go deeper than that! :P

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 04:04 PM

Shape in profile is kinda similar though, innit? As is the 11 - short, dumpy 5 door wedgy hatchback. Renault had a bit of a styling (i.e. wot styling?) crisis during the 80's (I'm excluding the 25 - which was styled by a Citroen scribbler - and the Fuego, which was signed off in the 70s, here)!

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 04:53 PM

I think that Renault are going through another styling crisis right now. :shock: It looks like Citroen can do no wrong in the styling at the moment!

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 10:45 PM

I think that Renault are going through another styling crisis right now. It looks like Citroen can do no wrong in the styling at the moment!

Mmmm. . .Clio vs C3?Clio please :!: When the nice lady wiped the side out of my Scenic last October, I ended up with a Grand (a loose term ) Picasso as a replacement for 3 weeks. Compared to the Scenic, it felt like it was made of tin foil-especially the bootlid which was awful. Little wonder they're able to win the race for value :!: Also, for the nearly £20k cost for the model I had, to have a completely different shade of colour coded bumpers was just unbelievable (it was brand new)-and unacceptable. I have since seen loads of them with bumpers that are badly colour coded or have a "misty" finish to the plastic components. Give me GS or a CX anyday, but sorry, I'll stick with the diamond badge on my French shite - modern as well as old.




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