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Rarest cars features in April's Practical Classics mag
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Posted 02 March 2008 - 01:49 PM
Apparently 78, I have the mag in front of me. These figures annoy me because it doesn't break it down into MkI & MkII, from where I'm sitting, the MkI is far more entitled to be called endangered than the MkII. It doesn't take too much looking around for a MkII, but MkIs!......?There are something like 80 Fiat Stradas left which is a shockingly bad survival rate considering the car was quite popular and was sold from circa 1978-1988



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Posted 02 March 2008 - 02:01 PM
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Posted 03 March 2008 - 12:26 AM
There was one on eBay last year, an estate. Wonder if that's the one? It was a bit rough IIRC, but not a total shed.Apparently there is one Dacia Denem left in the UK.
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Posted 03 March 2008 - 06:21 AM

Floorplan and mechanicals, as well as the facia, are basically straight Fiat 850. Reasonably up-to-date styling (for the time - launched 1974) was a mix of 126 and 127, but the car itself was crude even by mid-1970s supermini standards. UK-market cars have badges marking them out as 'Fiat costruzione Seat', but in that market it lasted less than a year and was a total flop - rendered completely pointless when stacked up against the 127. Gold-plated shite credentials.
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Posted 03 March 2008 - 08:50 AM
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Posted 03 March 2008 - 10:15 AM
From memory -Renault 16, Chrysler 180, Fiat 131, Alfa 6.Can't remember any more!what else is on the list ?
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Posted 03 March 2008 - 11:19 AM
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Posted 03 March 2008 - 04:01 PM
or my humble R14 for that matter!I was a little surprised that the Renault 6 didn't make it onto the list. I know it wasn't particularly popular when it was new, but then neither was the 133.

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 04:11 PM
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Posted 03 March 2008 - 05:03 PM
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Posted 03 March 2008 - 08:20 PM
Spotted 1 today in traffic. Followed it for a pic when he got out thoughFiat 133s are a stellar piece of shite - basically a Seat 133 rebadged for some markets, including the UK, as a Fiat:
http://www.carsfromitaly.net/fiat/popups...
Floorplan and mechanicals, as well as the facia, are basically straight Fiat 850. Reasonably up-to-date styling (for the time - launched 1974) was a mix of 126 and 127, but the car itself was crude even by mid-1970s supermini standards. UK-market cars have badges marking them out as 'Fiat costruzione Seat', but in that market it lasted less than a year and was a total flop - rendered completely pointless when stacked up against the 127. Gold-plated shite credentials.



Top comment said four left. Can you guys find the other 3

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 08:53 PM
2003 Renault Espace IV 2.0 petrol - living up to its reputation...
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Posted 04 March 2008 - 09:01 AM
Further to this, I was reading more of the mag last night, it seems the figure of 78 is for MkIII Stradas only (like the freebie one Nigel B got hold of) so gawd knows how many MkIs & IIs there are seeing as the IIIs were last of the Strada line!Apparently 78, I have the mag in front of me. These figures annoy me because it doesn't break it down into MkI & MkII, from where I'm sitting, the MkI is far more entitled to be called endangered than the MkII. It doesn't take too much looking around for a MkII, but MkIs!......?There are something like 80 Fiat Stradas left which is a shockingly bad survival rate considering the car was quite popular and was sold from circa 1978-1988
I also find it hard to believe there can be only 78 in total, they must mean just on the road because as far as I'm concerned there seem to be alot more than 78 in MkIIs alone!
(Nigel Bickle holds a good proportion of the survivors! - in fact, what else has he got from the endangered list? They're not endangered, they just all live in West Sussex!
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Posted 04 March 2008 - 09:15 AM
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Posted 06 March 2008 - 07:07 AM
Apparently it costs them *over* £600 to press a few buttons to get this information out now, due to a "upgraded" system!The DVLA would make a small fortune to people like us, by publishing the numbers of remaining cars in an annual publication.
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Posted 06 March 2008 - 11:24 PM
Probably as the 'upgraded' system is so unfriendly to use, it takes 6 civil servants, each of whom have been on a week-long holiday - erm - training course to learn how to use it, to work out which buttons to press. They used to do it free. They even had a specific name to write to, maybe the £600 is his annual salary divided by the number of requests he got in a yearApparently it costs them *over* £600 to press a few buttons to get this information out now, due to a "upgraded" system!The DVLA would make a small fortune to people like us, by publishing the numbers of remaining cars in an annual publication.

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Posted 07 March 2008 - 12:42 PM
Renault 16: dark blue, T-reg belonged to a guy at the local Renault dealer until the mid-90s
Simca 1301: gold, seem to remember it being very tatty
Lancia Beta Berlina: blue, T-reg, walked past it every day going to school up to early 90s
Mitsubishi Tredia: not Turbo unfortunately, blue and lived at end of my street
Talbot Tagora: dark blue, sat at the end of a drive for a few years up to the late 90s then disappeared. Was actually quite tidy IIRC.
Chrysler 180: T-reg, bronze, belonged to some neighbours briefly in the 80s, rotten even then!
These cars weren’t exactly plentiful even then so I suppose that’s why they stood out to me as a kid. I’m sure I’d know if there had been any other examples around.
With the Tagora there is a very slim chance that it is still there as it was at the end of an entrance to a 10-foot. I might do some investigations....

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Posted 07 March 2008 - 11:58 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.u...1QQcmdZViewItemTheres a few of those 133's knocking around across the channel, sold up till about 1980 I think. i'd very happily razz about in one.
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Posted 08 March 2008 - 10:10 AM
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