nigel bickle Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 My daughter blew her bloody car up-Punto convertible (natch).Droveit 40 miles with the red light on-engine looked like a grenade had gone off in the bay.Just got the engine swopped-identical 1.4 16v-from a rearended smash,that I saw running.Got a call from the mechanic today to say its in -but blowing steam.He wasnt kidding-creating its own microclimate.Still -itswashed the exhaust out nicely..So-head gasket gone,somehow. Is it a simple job-cos thats all I'm up to at pres.Or do I bite a bigger bullet & get said mechanic to sort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Reverend Bluejeans Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 If it's the one I'm thinking of from my Fiat days maaaany years ago, they're a bastard. The 75 and 85 cars used the 16v version of the 1242cc motor. The cam cover actually forms the upper cam carrier as well and there are special tools involved. Even doing a cambelt on one is a nightmare. One those you timed the cams up with the slugs halfway down the bores, not at TDC.....this is all remembered vaguely from 12-13 years ago.The 8v FIRE engine was a piece of piss however - a cambelt is literally 40 minutes......Best option might be to get a decent secondhand engine ad drop that in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel bickle Posted August 20, 2009 Author Share Posted August 20, 2009 Yup- thats what I just did.Seems this lovelyrunner-now needs a Head Gasket.Oh-and its a complete swine to swop out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Reverend Bluejeans Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Sounds like one of those cars that just doesn't want fixing. Cars like that make you seriously consider £2000 against a Picanto/Panda.Get it weighed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel bickle Posted August 21, 2009 Author Share Posted August 21, 2009 If only that was an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M'coli Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 I asked about this on a spannering forum I frequent and have received these replies so far:Re: Punto 16v head gasket.Reply #1 - Aug 22nd, 2009, 6:34pm Quote Not too bad to do but he will need the special tools to re-set the cam timing as the cover is also the cam caps. Its only really a FIRE unit with a trick head on.As always get the head skimmed and fit new bolts. SmileyRe: Punto 16v head gasket.Reply #2 - Aug 22nd, 2009, 10:15pm Quote Could this be due to water that the original engine may have leaked into the exhaust?Or am i showing my ignorance again Shocked Cheesy Lips SealedRe: Punto 16v head gasket.Reply #3 - Aug 23rd, 2009, 6:53pm Quote unfortunately these do blow gaskets and bend heads badly in my experience . im sure the mechanic as diagnosed the car as either having a gasket problem / or water still in exhaust Roll Eyes if it aint losing any water then its most likely water still in exhaust and a blast down the motorway would clear it Wink . two pins hold cams in position ,made my own up Wink WinkCould this be due to water that the original engine may have leaked into the exhaust?Or am i showing my ignorance again Shocked Cheesy Lips SealedI would of started here first too. Wink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volksy Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Did a engine rebuild on a Cing spurting a few years back, engine was well and truly fried. Ended up rebuilding rather than a second hand replacement (long story). smoked and steamed like a bugger afterwards for a while from water and oil in the exhaust.... Cleared after a while, worth trying I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel bickle Posted August 27, 2009 Author Share Posted August 27, 2009 Thanks for that -appreciated.Sadly-its todgered. The amount of steam, running on 2/3/4cylinders makes it an evident fail - feels massive- between 2 cylinders.Oh-and the rapidly pressurised rad/tank confirms.I'm not swopping out AGAIN-thats a complete nightmare. The 'tools' needed cost as much as getting a jobbing Fiat spannerman in -so I guess thats the route . More pennies. Get the wife back on the street corner-evenings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter9000uk Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Fix It Again TomorrowMind you would love a Miafiori SportDad put me off Fiats many moons ago after his 124 & 125 both went tits up.Being a cab though it should be of interest to someone surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel bickle Posted August 27, 2009 Author Share Posted August 27, 2009 I'm kinda used to the vagaries of Fiats..Can 'do' a 124 or 125 head quite quickly now-plenty of practice.Somewhere in the depths of the sheds, I've a 124coupe (A), 68 Estate & 4 varying 125's. Oh-and a couple of FSO's-virtually the same-just single cam.But this takes the biscuit-a complete nightmare. 1.4 16v-avoid like the plague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Pelican Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Had a Uno 60 S once , S stood for selecta as in 5 gears ( if you could find the boody things ) god forsaken pile of water soluble rot , bought for a tenner , driven for 3 years , got a tenner of the scrap man when the clutch gave up , bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiatdaft Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 nigel that should be a 1242cc btw,incase that helps when getting the bits,unless of course you have done an engine swap already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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