Tamworthbay Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 So which country is the best in terms of automotive excellence and development?Uk - home of most F1 teams, some big names who were there at the start of car development.Germany - arguably the originators of the car, home to some ‘premium’ makers and sports car behemoth PorscheFrance - weird wonderful and what could be more beautiful than a Panhard?Italy - Ferrari and Lamborghini homeland as well as the Rally giants Lancia and fix it again Tony’s Fiat makers of some of the worlds finest small carsJapan - quality, if slightly dull, cars for masses and some crazy shit as well like some Kei carsSweden - Saab and its turbos, Volvo and it’s safety and antique dealer friendly estatesRussia - utilitarian transport for the masses* (possibly, if you could get one)USA - home of the straight road and enormous V engines of minimal power output but amazing sound. So who is the best of the best? LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Conan Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 I think it's New Zealand. Because you can get all of above imported into a country which is made pure of amazing driving roads and scenery. Uncle Jimmy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthbay Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 I think it's New Zealand. Because you can get all of above imported into a country which is made pure of amazing driving roads and scenery.Could win the bike best with the utterly stunning Britten. Jerzy Woking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazfr69 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Us of course. Eddie Honda and chadders 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayne Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Don’t forget Austria, home of Steyr Daimler Puch, birthplace of Porsche and Junkman. Also Wales with its Gilbern sports cars. LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 A Steyr Puch is certainly the pinnacle of automotivedom.So you need to take one to New Zealand, because of the inherent lack of amazing driving roads, scenery and import cars in Austria.The problem with New Zealand, however, is that it doesn't have a village named Fucking. pshome and blakey79 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayne Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Does it have a Wank Mountain? Junkman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthbay Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 Scotland has a village called Twatt. And some great roads...... But England has Beer and the nearby Beer Head and Beer mines, and snake pass...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayne Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 There’s at least two Twatts in Scotland. The snake pass is a disappointment but I will give you Cheddar Junkman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Conan Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 A Steyr Puch is certainly the pinnacle of automotivedom.So you need to take one to New Zealand, because of the inherent lack of amazing driving roads, scenery and import cars in Austria.The problem with New Zealand, however, is that it doesn't have a village named Fucking. https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/mercedesbenz/auction-1955513084.htm?rsqid=d2396a2971b342e98c7989933229367c How fucking much?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Does it have a Wank Mountain? Only the Karawanks mountain range, does that count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/mercedesbenz/auction-1955513084.htm?rsqid=d2396a2971b342e98c7989933229367c How fucking much?! What does an overpriced Mercedes wankmobile have to do with anything? I was talking about the pinnacle of automotivedom. Tamworthbay, eddyramrod, mercrocker and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Conan Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 G-Wagon takes 6-litre of oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pshome Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 The Austrians are clearly ahead of the game.They go ... while we just after a bit of... chaseracer and Junkman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 G-Wagon takes 6-litre of oil. So does a shitpile 230E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 The Austrians are clearly ahead of the game.They go ... while we just wank.jpg after a bit of...petting.jpg You also do this in Germany! I think we just came up with quite a romantic tour: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Wank,+Garmisch-Partenkirchen,+Germany/Kissing,+Germany/Petting,+Germany/5121+Fucking,+Austria/@47.9018117,11.2995194,9z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m28!4m27!1m5!1m1!1s0x479d07a20dc4203b:0x1b8c3deb7c210341!2m2!1d11.1436111!2d47.5072222!1m5!1m1!1s0x479e997d0b497391:0x41e48add78be870!2m2!1d10.972609!2d48.3027069!1m5!1m1!1s0x47767df707a81f7d:0x41d25a40937aba0!2m2!1d12.8162263!2d47.9127713!1m5!1m1!1s0x4775d4854dbcba19:0x802456ee60b72a17!2m2!1d12.8633177!2d48.0673299!2m1!1b1!3e0 Thus we have conclusively proven that the best automotive countries in the world are the State of Bavaria and Austria. Why am I not surprised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Conan Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Let's have a goal. martc, blakey79, mercrocker and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 What does an overpriced Mercedes wankmobile have to do with anything? I was talking about the pinnacle of automotivedom. how about a vehicle with that engine but a transmission/gearbox you approve of? Mrs6C and Junkman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pshome Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 You also do this in Germany! I think we just came up with quite a romantic tour: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Wank,+Garmisch-Partenkirchen,+Germany/Kissing,+Germany/Petting,+Germany/5121+Fucking,+Austria/@47.9018117,11.2995194,9z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m28!4m27!1m5!1m1!1s0x479d07a20dc4203b:0x1b8c3deb7c210341!2m2!1d11.1436111!2d47.5072222!1m5!1m1!1s0x479e997d0b497391:0x41e48add78be870!2m2!1d10.972609!2d48.3027069!1m5!1m1!1s0x47767df707a81f7d:0x41d25a40937aba0!2m2!1d12.8162263!2d47.9127713!1m5!1m1!1s0x4775d4854dbcba19:0x802456ee60b72a17!2m2!1d12.8633177!2d48.0673299!2m1!1b1!3e0 Thus we have conclusively proven that the best automotive countries in the world are the State of Bavaria and Austria. Why am I not surprised? you forgot the last stop Junkman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asimo Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Well it isn't England any more. Honda are off. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47282603. Damn shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cort1977 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 I can't decide on the merits of various countries engineering prowess but for shiters there is no better country than the UK. Cars are cheaper to buy and own, roads are better for driving and regulations far more sensible than anywhere else. Even the traffic and creeping big brother state do not outweigh these benefits. Shite cars in America are expensive, the roads are mostly dull and the rules dangerously lax. Mainland Europe has ridiculous restrictions despite some remarkably shitey cars. Australia is regulation hell with a hatred of anything old or modified. Japan doesn't even allow chod, once it gets too expensive to pass the Shaken it's shipped off to NZ, Russia or the UK. The prosecution rests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pshome Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Mainland Europe has ridiculous restrictions despite some remarkably shitey cars. Do we? Nobody told me. mercrocker, Lord Sterling, cort1977 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayMK Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Czechoslovakia or whatever they call the bits now. They gave us air cooled V8s, flat fours, rear engines, swing axles and rally class winners, and that's just the cars. They pioneered independent suspension and air cooled V12s for HGVs. I do, of course, acknowledge Austria's contribution to much of this by Hans Ledwinka. Although I've not been there, I'm told that there is some stunning scenery in that area as well. I have owned several rear engined Skodas and loved the way they handled. In the 1980s I and a friend came close to buying a Tatra 603. Our respective wives applied common sense (mine wanted a new kitchen). About 25 years ago there was a Tatra dealer at Fosters Booth, just a few miles down the road from where I live. This presented me with more unachievable dreams, but I've got a brochure for the RHD Tim Bishop 613. Tamworthbay and pshome 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayne Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 There’s fantastic lane discipline on Slovakian motorways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernaut Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Scotland, duh! I give you the Argyll Turbo GT. It has a Rover 3.5 V8 shoved in it, with a turbo bolted on. It also has the suspension from a Triumph 2500 and the dashboard from a Volvo (SVM approved!). It's also utterly shite. They only made two of them. The one in the photo is just up the road from me, in Alford. Alusilber, LightBulbFun, Fabergé Greggs and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddlethumper Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 ^^ Didn't Scotland build the v8 square sausage ? or am I confusing it with the v6 haggis. Twiggy, LightBulbFun and Supernaut 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthbay Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 Any country that deep fries mars bars can’t be all bad.......... puddlethumper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hairnet Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Scotland, duh! I give you the Argyll Turbo GT. It has a Rover 3.5 V8 shoved in it, with a turbo bolted on. It also has the suspension from a Triumph 2500 and the dashboard from a Volvo (SVM approved!). It's also utterly shite. They only made two of them. The one in the photo is just up the road from me, in Alford. alexander dennis anaw (i know its only bodies but meh) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeeExEll Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 ^ I seem to remember a tangled-up connection between Argyll Cars from Lochgilphead and Minnow Fish carburettors. They may have been agents or something like that. Reminds me of the 1970 Minnow Fish Avenger 'Highlander' Turbo.(Yes, turbo!). From a couple of years before the Tigers were built by Hillman. Have never seen one so can only assume they made very few of them. A limited amount of info on the net. Why wasn't it a success? I don't know, high cost possibly, or maybe technical issues. Sorry, distraction from the main point of this thread. Out of the whole world we've temporarily landed at Lochgilphead. But someone may be interested.Carry on Twiggy and Fabergé Greggs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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