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#1 ONLINE   Brodders

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Posted 13 February 2019 - 11:49 PM

Due to the unexpected additional roffle Omega, I need to make a bit of room here. Therefore, I think it is best that the ex-PBK Triumph 1300 moves onto someone who is better placed to get it back on the road than me.

To summarise it is a 1968 Triumph 1300 FWD in Valencia Blue (a huge number were in this colour) with about 76k on the clock, and is now tax and MOT exempt. The car was a runner but suddenly lost drive according to the owner prior to Ken. It is likely that the CV joint on the N/S that has given up; a replacement one comes with the car. If it is not the not the CV joint it will most likely be an input shaft which is the cause of the issue. Standard shafts are available from Mick Dolphin, Rimmer Bros or most other Triumph specialists, and uprated ones aren’t much more pricey. A new clutch was fitted about two years ago.

The car started and ran previously; it ran very sweetly and the owner prior to Ken used it as a daily. However as can be seen in the photos, bits were dismantled to gain the necessary access to the O/S suspension turret which will need to have some welding work done to it, along with another bit of cutting and welding further down from the turret. Amazingly the other turret is completely fine, which I suppose is a bonus. All the bits for the engine are in little bags marked with what everything is in order to get it back up and running after the welding work.

Welding will be needed in several other areas too. The photos give a decent impression; however it will involve the work around the O/S suspension turret mentioned above, the offside wing being welded on, a small patch on the N/S wing, some tricky looking work around the N/S A-pillar and the work around the two rear wheel arches. I have all the bits needed for this, such as the two front wings and two rear quarter panels (which cost £250 alone last year), which is a positive. The rear quarters don’t need to be replaced in their entirety, but the whole panels come with the car and can be cut down to make use of the wheel arch section. Nonetheless, I would advise against taking this on unless you were a decent welder or had a tame one who would be happy to do the work for a discounted price, as I was quoted around £5-600 for the work to the front of the car last year.

Another point to make would be that the seats are very easy to remove (only 4 bolts) and are very comfortable as they are. However if you did want some with a headrest, Rover 45 seats have been known to be put in them with only slight modifications.

Overall it could be a worthwhile project if you have the time and skills to complete it. Unfortunately I have neither, and an additional car coming in which I really need to make room for. As such, I am looking for around £850 (an A.S discount is available, as I would love to see it stay on here), which is inclusive of the difficult to find and expensive front and rear quarters, additional bonnet and additional pair of front seats, which are a bit grubby from being in the garage over the last few months. If you are interested, please let me know. I think coming to see it would be the best way of seeing it is for you, but I am more than happy to send more pictures or details across if you would like any.

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Pictures of it outside prior to being too aggressive with the wire brush on the rear wheel arches.

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Patch needed here on N/S wing

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A-pillar

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Where the majority of work is needed

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Various other bits about the car

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Posted 14 February 2019 - 12:14 AM

Are they actual CV joints on these?  I thought they were some weird-ass setup with a rubber doughnut in a metal cage or something.



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Posted 14 February 2019 - 08:04 AM

Are they actual CV joints on these?  I thought they were some weird-ass setup with a rubber doughnut in a metal cage or something.

Yes, definitely. Called Rotoflex couplings, from memory, they look like Discovery/Range Rover prop doughnuts.

I remember helping my Dad change them on my Grandad's 1300 in about 1973, pretty straightforward I think.
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Posted 14 February 2019 - 08:44 AM

As Brodders has already said, the bits to do this are supplied or available pretty cheaply. The main bit will be the prep and welding. The turret rust isn't huge but it does go from one side to the other. I partially dismantled to get a proper look. A clean and neat patch isn't a major problem. 

 

The rear wheel arches are not unusual at all and the panels are provided. The front wing is one that I bought, the other side is repairable.

 

The rest is really a good old tidy up. The interior is pretty decent, just a good clean required. If you need a new carpet then Coverdale provide a bloody good replacement. Engine is easy to work on and the bits are bagged and tagged. 

 

Tons of advice and support via the TDC and FB groups. I had it on good advice re: the FTP bits, so should be okay with the CV or a new input shaft. 

 

These are nice cars and comfy too. Little Triumph saloons are ace. Rotoflex couplings are used and they are not hard to fit or obtain in the first instance.


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Posted 14 February 2019 - 08:55 AM

Smol Triumph saloons are finally on the up price-wise after years of trailing behind in the valuation stakes. 

 

These cars are really little gems. The stuff that needs doing is not horrendous, especially with the panels already provided. 


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Posted 14 February 2019 - 09:57 PM

Triumph bump.


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Posted 14 February 2019 - 11:31 PM

It certainly is a beautiful little thing...

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Posted 15 February 2019 - 08:32 AM

It could be in the right hands.

 

They drive really nicely, the rear suspension set up is vastly superior to the later RWD cars. 

 

Mate in Coventry has two, one is standard and was restored about 4 years ago. He bought it off an old boy who worked for Triumph and who bought it from new. Lovely car. The other one is modified to do road race type stuff. He changed it over to TC spec which is not hard to do. Goes very nicely indeed. 

 

Someone please buy this little car, it'd be brilliant once done. The mechanical stuff is very straightforward indeed. The PO did indeed use it as a daily.

 

Stuff that is in worse nick is cheaper but they don't come with the repair panels that would see it sorted. Rear 1/4 panels were going for anything between £150 to £200 per side. Wings are around £65 to £75. 

 

This is a generously priced viable car.


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Posted 15 February 2019 - 08:37 AM

Oh, re: CV joints. There is a guy that my mate is in discussion with who produces superbly engineered suspension stuff that would remove the rubber doughnuts and replace them with proper machined stuff. Looks bloody amazing. 

 

The same type of thing they used on that WD episode with the Mk3 GT6.


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Posted 15 February 2019 - 08:40 AM

Spares are plentiful and not hugely expensive, the only cost exception is a proper metal lower front valance but you can get superb GRP ones from the TDC. This one doesn't need a replacement. Also front indicator/sidelight units are a bit thin on the ground now. 


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Posted 15 February 2019 - 03:56 PM

Thanks everyone, it would be a lovely car, but unfortunately I am just not the right person for getting it back on the road.

That and the need for the space it occupies means that selling it is the only sensible choice, but I would love to see someone on here be the one to get it up and running again.

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Posted 15 February 2019 - 03:59 PM

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Posted 15 February 2019 - 06:14 PM

That and the need for the space it occupies means that selling it is the only sensible choice, but I would love to see someone on here be the one to get it up and running again.


Why can't you be selling this in 4-6 months time. :(

I did seriously consider buying this off PBK when he owned it like a year or so ago however the welding scared me off as at the time. Especially as I'd have to outsourced it. Now however it doesn't look that scary at all. I reckon a month or two of weekends would get all the metalwork knocked out easily.
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Posted 15 February 2019 - 06:20 PM

^^ Just do it man, just do it. Never mind the storage issue ;)


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Posted 17 February 2019 - 09:35 AM

Free small Triumph bump.

 

Seriously folks, this is not a major project if you can weld and these are lovely cars to drive. .


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Posted 17 February 2019 - 10:45 AM

Genuinely, if I hadn’t just taken on this Mini then I would have bought this. It’s cheap, Brodders is a lovely chap and I loves me a bit of BLARG tat.

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Posted 17 February 2019 - 11:23 AM

Plastic Padding don't do rear wheel arch repair panels, but if they did, they would be as good as the Ispon ones.

Despite the 1980 style repairs, looks like a sound base.

Neighbour of mine had a 1300TC version. He had just come off the M5 and stopped at a roundabout when the subframe mountingbpoints to the chassis legs gave way. The force of the springs lifted the front of the shell and the fan went through the radiator.
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Posted 17 February 2019 - 11:35 AM

Ooooooh, TC version. They had the twin carbs, poss Spitfire cam (IIRC), remote brake servo and a couple of TC badges. 


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Posted 17 February 2019 - 02:09 PM

Yeah, certainly the twin carbs and the TF badges. I never new about the 'spitfire racing cam' or the remote servo.

The engine had not long been rebuilt after it ran the crank. Someone offered to repair the chassis legs but my neighbour was shell shocked by the near death experience, so wasn't having any of it.

A mate of mine had a 1300 with a tired engine, so the TC was broken for spares, as we did back in the day. It was that 'bad tummy' shade of Senokot brown.

A white Triumph 1300 then became a 1300TC in half a days work. Can't recall if he did the brake servo, but back in the day, it was all about going faster. Being able to stop faster was an unnecessary complication of low relevance.
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Posted 19 February 2019 - 04:53 PM

An almost midweek bump up to see if anyone is interested.

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Posted 06 March 2019 - 09:08 PM

This hasn't attracted much attention, so I feel a £100 price drop is in order.

Any interest at £750?

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Posted 06 March 2019 - 09:14 PM

Maybe. But not yet. Maybe in a month or so once my buyers solicitor gets their finger out, if its still around.
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Posted 09 March 2019 - 06:55 PM

C'mon folks, a great opportunity to get into the small Triumph circle of love.


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