egg Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 Perhaps something like "EGG 1" might be available? It's on a 2012 Brown Honda Jazz CVT, lol. I think the official* recording of these vehicles was probably very hit n miss, even back in the day. Nowadays, it's likely to not make much sense at all... For example, PEV627D has the chassis number B4951. I reckon if there's no records left, you should get an age related plate quite easily* with help from the club. Good luck! Thanks. Help from the club being the key phrase! LightBulbFun, mrbenn, GrumpiusMaximus and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Looks like in the case of PEV, they mistook the 8 for a B, might be worth trying the same with yours maybe? egg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 AS geeking out on chassis numbers on a Monday night - that's what I'm talking about, love it. So PEV627D - 84951 in 1966and mine in autumn(?) 1967 is 87862 They didn't make that many. So wonder now how the numbers worked... binhoker668, Rusty_Rocket, Ohdearme and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 We can triangulate the date with Howmanyleft (2017 data - last full year) https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/make/invacar#!manufacture 1970 - 1 registered - so that's JBY503J There are none 1954-1969... maybe not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticvandan Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 3000 hand made cripple carriages in a year is quite a lot! Christine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanciamatt Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 I will run 84951 through hpi and see what it turns up. If it picks that car up at least we know chassis format is right. egg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 I will run 84951 through hpi and see what it turns up. If it picks that car up at least we know chassis format is right. on both that one and Eggs try replacing the 8 with a B if nothing shows up still (theres also 92119) Oh BTW to Rusty_Rocket out of sheer curiosity what does GPG721K turn up as? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Alright been speaking with Stuart some more JBY503J did actually have its original reg but someone plate raped it sadly, it was LVX 250J which is now on a ford Escort as for figuring out Eggs Mk12c sadly material on Pre Model 70 stuff is quite far and few between so we are not sure if it will possible to retrieve the original reg via the ICRs records sadly, but im hopeful something can be turned up (even if we might be on our own) but if nothing else the fact that you have the chassis number means you WILL be able to at least get an age related plate (sadly with Mk12s despite 20 years of searching they are still not sure where the chassis number is on the actual chassis it self, so if you have a Mk12 with no VIN plate your SOL basically) (apparently its only Model 70s that the ICR can cross reference vin numbers to reg plates and vice versa) Rusty_Rocket and egg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 Many thanks for that. Sounds like I just need to do the form and write to the DVLA then. Hopefully getting a V5 back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Could the chassis number be something like 12C87862? egg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 Anything is possible Si! Thanks for the suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms206 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 I would expect there to be a manufacturer prefix that needs to be added? For instance I believe AC is "BEX"? Or Reliant is "SCD" which is then followed by the chassis number. This system allows each manufacturer to use the same series of chassis numbers but still be identifiable at the dvla's end. I have no idea what the prefix for Invacar ltd is however! Get a fellow invacar owner to check what's at the start of the chassis number on there V5? DaveA small chassis number like that will not work right on hpi, as it will think your only putting a partial chassis in, I'll check again on Monday and see if multiple vehicles come up or somethingThanks guys, appreciated. I went over to the car this afternoon. When wet the VIN was legible, and here it is it you want to ring an Invacar...12c 1967... IMG_20190214_150938~2.jpgThe three digit identifier is a more recent thing; certainly we have 1990s buses with six or seven digit chassis numbers, though Volvo Truck & Bus at least were using YV3 in the 1980s. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk egg and LightBulbFun 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Many thanks for that. Sounds like I just need to do the form and write to the DVLA then. Hopefully getting a V5 back. thats what im thinking, something along the rough lines of "I have a Mk12 Invacar heres a load of pictures and the V62 form filled out the best i can, I dont know the registration number, do you have a V5 that matches the rest of the cars details and has the cars chassis number on it, if so can I has it please?" (obviously worded better then that! LOL) (looking over the V62 I think you do have enough data to fill everything in bar the Reg number of course, for example under make we know from other examples it will be "INVACAR") egg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 oh and I would probably leave "Model" blank as that does not seem to have ever been filled out on the original V5 of Invacars etc and I imagine putting something like "Mk12C" there might confuse someone at the DVLA (unless of course Zel/DW did otherwise with their Model 70s...) egg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticvandan Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 That number is the chassis number,afaik this predates the vin format we know today. LightBulbFun and egg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanciamatt Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Right, I've tried a few other invacar chassis numbers and hpi doesn't find it, always comes back as a truck, but if you put chassis and reg in it will find them. It will be because they on old chassis number format. So we cannot use this method. I'd ring DVLA and ask them what's best. egg and LightBulbFun 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 Another trip over to the lockup. Rob reminded me that carpet is always useful to soften concrete floors, so a remnant was secured to help my aches and pains! Just need a chair for my bolt hole Yes, I really am sweeping up the car... Attention turned to the seat backrest, one bolt was removed, but the side of the car exposed to the elements is worse, and it would not budge. Left to stew in its juice. The diesel does not seemed to have loosened up the top of the carb, so this too went back in its juice. So what key do I need, I thought there were no markings, but it is a good old FS880. I pulled one indicator off the loom leaving the bullet behind. At least I could remove that lamp completely now. Finally I tried to remove the brake cylinder, two screws gave way, but the other two didn't. Got me out of the house anyway! Remspoor, GrumpiusMaximus, BorniteIdentity and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 happy to see work is continuing I hate it when only half the screws on everything come out , so you end up removing a lot of screws but nothing properly comes apart LOL nice to see you where able unearth the key markings on the lock, its probably not a bad idea to soak the key hole in penetrating oil while you wait for the key to arrive so you have some chance of it turning when the key does show up egg and Ohdearme 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ0063 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 https://twitter.com/HubNutVids Is this anyone from here? Noticed he has a roadworthy one in photos... LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgeRover Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Have you been able to establish a possible series of numbers from the registrations of other mk12s? I think it may make it easier for the dvla if you have even a regional prefix. Otherwise have any local records survived in the area it was likely registered? At a guess a new model year may be donoted by a jump of 1000 in the chassis number, assuming less than a 1000 units built per year. As you said the jump in numbers seems a lot otherwise. egg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 https://twitter.com/HubNutVids Is this anyone from here? Noticed he has a roadworthy one in photos... Good find Interesting ! Remspoor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 https://twitter.com/HubNutVids Is this anyone from here? Noticed he has a roadworthy one in photos... tis Mr DollyWobbler http://autoshite.com/topic/29975-dollywobblers-invacar-award-winning/ JJ0063 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remspoor Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 tis Mr DollyWobbler http://autoshite.com/topic/29975-dollywobblers-invacar-award-winning/ I thought JJ0063 was making a joke. JJ0063 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 I thought JJ0063 was making a joke. you would be surprised on what people can miss on the internet.... (im sure your well aware on ebay "im selling this BRIGHT RED car" only to get someone messaging you "is it Dark purple?" ) im thinking JJ0063 may have not found DWs invacar post since it was a bit burried until I posted in it recently so I rather give the benefit of the doubt so to speak and linked to DWs thread on TWC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 FS880 keys available on ebay for around the £2.50 mark, though I suspect any FS key would work, the locks wear very quickly. My Triumph will start with any key that actually goes in the hole. And can be removed with the engine still running. egg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 Have you been able to establish a possible series of numbers from the registrations of other mk12s? I think it may make it easier for the dvla if you have even a regional prefix. Otherwise have any local records survived in the area it was likely registered? At a guess a new model year may be donoted by a jump of 1000 in the chassis number, assuming less than a 1000 units built per year. As you said the jump in numbers seems a lot otherwise. Not really. The Invacar register hinted at some likely letter combinations, but that might just be over complicating things for Swansea. I agree - perhaps the jump in 1000 - or there may have been a change between the different types of MK12 (a, b, c, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ0063 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 I thought JJ0063 was making a joke.Unfortunately not, hadn’t read this thread fully! Just stumbled upon it on Twatter via Not2Grand I believe! LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpiusMaximus Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 They had convertible wheeled seats/mechanic board (whatever they're called) in Lidl the other day. As well as the electric oil pump. If either would be of any use to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 Thanks, I'm ok, keen not to spend any more money at the mo anyway! GrumpiusMaximus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpiusMaximus Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Right with you there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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