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#151 OFFLINE   Isaac Hunt

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 07:37 PM

oh thats a shame (to the side swipe damage), I was thinking if there was not that much wrong with it, you could put some wheels on it and just ask for the entire car  :mrgreen:


Repairable by one of us, that would have been. 2 x 2nd had doors, some fettling to the B Pillar, poss Sill and C pillar and jobs a good un. Send it in to a bodyshop and there lies the problem, beyond economic repair, quicker and easier to pay out market value.

Years ago, mate of mine repaired a Rover 400 with similar damage. Car was a bargain from the salvage yard. Two second hand doors in the right colour and a local craftsman panel beater to straighten c pillar and rear wing and paint it, car looked spot on.
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Posted 28 January 2019 - 07:42 PM

I put this video together yesterday:

 

 

I'm fairly sure it covers just about all the common X300 issues leading to non-starting/poor running, apart from the throttle body. Someone might even find it of some use. Nearly at 400 subscribers now, nudge, nudge, wink, wink!

 

Went for a longer drive in the turquoise car today. I think if it were going to break down it would have done so by now so I'm declaring the engine fully operational! Overall the car drives remarkably well, very, very smooth and like I said earlier no clunking or knocking at all from the suspension. Even the brakes are nice. It drives far better than it looks. Overall appraisal of the turquoise car then is that it is of course relatively scruffy. Jacking outriggers should be cut off and redone, then just a set of tyres and you could have a laugh in it and just enjoy it for what it is. It will always have it's residual value even without an MOT at around £1000 due to people using the drivetrain for other things. This still has MOT till 16/07/2019 so plenty to play with. It could be kept on the road going forward without much work I think.


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Posted 28 January 2019 - 07:44 PM

Repairable by one of us, that would have been. 2 x 2nd had doors, some fettling to the B Pillar, poss Sill and C pillar and jobs a good un. Send it in to a bodyshop and there lies the problem, beyond economic repair, quicker and easier to pay out market value.

Years ago, mate of mine repaired a Rover 400 with similar damage. Car was a bargain from the salvage yard. Two second hand doors in the right colour and a local craftsman panel beater to straighten c pillar and rear wing and paint it, car looked spot on.

 

yeah I had figured it was something along those lines, im guessing UPI is some sort of place insurance companies like to dump write offs?



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Posted 28 January 2019 - 10:00 PM

Turquoise roffle? And keep the pretty one. With that new bumper Ela will be more attractive too.

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 10:21 PM

With the bumper and front wing I found put on, a new set of tyres, fresh service, Andy bracket (which I have) and a bit of polishing ELA would become a really fantastic car for relatively minor investment in time and cash. Tempting to do a roffle, but I can’t see the turquoise car shifting many relatively expensive tickets. Given how much some utterly ruined examples have made on eBay auctions recently a 99p start no-reserve auction might be the most effective solution to the problem.
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#156 OFFLINE   SRi05

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 02:46 PM

Noticed this on retro rides while having a rare browse, only looking for £675 now, could be a profit in that for a jag licker like yourself?

http://retrorides.pr...val-rg12?page=1

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 04:37 PM

Hmmmm it looks quite good on the bodywork and interior front. I think he knows what’s wrong with it, the clue being “just a little tapping from the hydraulic tappets M8, nothing to worry about”. That will be the timing chain and tensioners. It doesn’t have hydraulic lifters. Also he should have been able to clear the restricted performance issue just by swapping another battery in and driving it a bit, so why not do that and then ask more the car? Sorry I sounds a bit paranoid. Lots of car for the cash though admittedly and I have never tried that engine. I feel for him people messing him around so much, it’s a cheap car!

There is a certain S-type I’m eyeing up that I have made an offer on but due to it’s issues I can’t offer a penny more on. Seller is reluctant but I think he might come round to the offer since it doesn’t seem to be shifting.

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 04:54 PM

I agree with that. If I was cynical I'd suspect a chain has jumped a tooth causing rough running that'll give the reduced performance message. It'd also explain the rattle as it means the tensioners have gone.

Besides that's not that cheap for a 3.2, especially one with issues.
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Posted 30 January 2019 - 05:12 PM

My thoughts exactly re the engine Hooli. If the engine was sound, no warning lights etc the £675 is not too bad, iiif it had a longer MOT. But that car seems to want at least one wheel bearing so life gets more complicated. It’s bloody hard to sell cars at the moment anyways. Now that I think about it I bought a 4.0 x308 a while back with no issues and fresh MOT for £650 so that makes that 3.2 look quite crap in comparison.

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 05:18 PM

I'm not too clued up on the value of these old things, I didn't think it would be possible to get anything other than a nail at that price range!

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 05:26 PM

No one wants these are they are so scared of OMGMPGS
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Posted 30 January 2019 - 05:32 PM

No one wants these are they are so scared of OMGMPGS


I'm getting a steady 22mpg from mine around town, not anywhere near as bad as I was fearing, was definitely expecting sub 20. Worth it for the comfort and waftyness
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Posted 30 January 2019 - 06:00 PM

For how heavy/powerful these things are, the MPG figures across the XJ range aren’t too bad. Take an old Volvo 240/740/940 or a Saab turbo for example. They can be just as thirsty with engines half the size, but yeah Jags drink.

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Posted 01 February 2019 - 02:23 PM

Well I am indeed getting a freshly painted bonnet for the turquoise car. Just called the Jag specialist back in Bolton and they say it's ready. Only trick now is getting it all the way back to the East Riding. Options are as follows: drive the turquoise car over (this will cost a great amount of fuel), swap bonnet, leave old one with them and go home. 2. Try and fit it in a Xantia (I can't see that working), 3. Try and fit it in our Range Rover P38 (I hope it at least fits in that somehow). Only problem with the Range Rover is (although an excellent vehicle) that the starter is dying. Currently the only way to start the thing is by jump starting and even then the draw on the other car is enormous. So looks like I'll be fixing the Rangie's starter pronto and seeing if an X300 bonnet will go in.

 

The turquoise car continues to run really quite well. I put a helper spring on the throttle return just to tighten it up a bit, which has improved throttle feel. Did a 0-60 MPH run with it, albeit in cold and wet conditions. Still has plenty of poke and makes all the right noises. Footage below.

 

 

 

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Posted 01 February 2019 - 05:31 PM

For how heavy/powerful these things are, the MPG figures across the XJ range aren’t too bad. Take an old Volvo 240/740/940 or a Saab turbo for example. They can be just as thirsty with engines half the size, but yeah Jags drink.

 

Indeed, I was getting about 10% worse MPG in normal use from my Sov compared to the Saab I had before. The XJR seems about 10% worse than the Sov... still not bad for double the power from an engine double the size of the Saab.


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Posted 06 February 2019 - 08:54 PM

I wants a Jaguar now. 

 

Off to ebay I go for the second time this week!


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Posted 13 February 2019 - 05:51 PM

Not so much time to work on the car during the last few days, but update time now. The replacement bonnet was picked up from Bolton last week. Annoyingly the bonnet is so big you would either have to rent a van or drive the Jag over and fit it upon collection. We elected to do the latter. It was also a good shakedown for the car really to confirm it is reliable on a long trip. It did around 200 miles on the day (£45 fuel right there!) and it didn't miss a beat, which was reassuring. Once we got to the bonnet at Bolton it was much better than expected. It had been resprayed to exactly the same colour, and to a high standard. On it went and now the car looks so much better. Well worth the effort. Alignment is key on these as if you get it a bit off the bonnet can easily get stuck shut. Anyway alignment was sorted out today and then I gave the car another clean. I even broke out a brush to get moss out of some of the nooks and crannies.

 

The turquoise car has come a long way.

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Posted 13 February 2019 - 05:56 PM

That’s lovely

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Posted 13 February 2019 - 06:14 PM

That’s lovely

Concur.

A guy we lived next door to was a rocker type in his 40s. Proper ‘Orgazoid’ from Peep Show. Lead singer in a band etc. Anyway he used to smoke about in one of these and looked SO COOL it frankly hurt.

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Posted 13 February 2019 - 07:26 PM

That is gorgeous.

Can't wait for the next roffle on one of these bad boys.

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Posted 13 February 2019 - 07:50 PM

Awesome. Lovely thing.

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Posted 13 February 2019 - 09:15 PM

Thanks for the kind words to all. Like I said, I would bring it back to a standard and I've done that, within my means and abilities. The above is the end result, and that is about it for the turquoise car. Incidentally the turquoise car is sold pending collection to a member of this parish who will no doubt reveal himself at some point, so that is good news.

 

What is less good news that I still have to sell ELA, as events events dear boys and girls have caught up. ELA is proving problematic to sell on the open market; those who came to view seemed to be in it for a bit of joy ride on a weekend, which has thoroughly irritated me. Anyway it is SORN right now since the insurance came up for renewal recently. I might do a separate sale thread for ELA just to make it a bit more apparent that is is indeed for sale. The era of the XJR6 may well be coming to a close. :(



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Posted 14 February 2019 - 09:49 AM

That looks the absolute dogs danglies - fantastic work on it and it's come up gorgeous. I'll be honest - I do prefer this colour to ELA. Sod it - drool everywhere!

On a positive note - passport just found - so as soon as it's back in my mitts I can start the back n forth for collections…….

I'm gonna be busy!

 

Thanks a million dude - it really is a fantastic bit of kit and I'm bouncing around in anticipation getting my hands on it.


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Posted 14 February 2019 - 09:59 AM

 It did around 200 miles on the day (£45 fuel right there!)

 

To be honest, I'd have guessed far worse!

 

Looks ace with the new bonnet.


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Posted 14 February 2019 - 11:30 AM

Yeah it did about 20 MPG, which is about spot on actually.

One more bonus footage video from fixing the turquoise car. How to change the fuel pump without removing the fuel tank. I know this will be frouned upon by some. However, with this access hole in the car it is now possible to replace the fuel pump on the side of the road with a couple of screwdrivers and a rubber mallet probably in about 20 mins.



And just for reference to the new owner what has been changed in the fuel tank is that you have one new fuel pump, new rubber fuel lines from both fuel pumps to the Y-shaped feed thingy and new jubilee clips holding everything on because the old hose clamps in there were utter crap quality and hard to get purchase on.
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Posted 15 February 2019 - 11:10 PM

Proper bit of MuFFTy is that now it’s sorted. You could say no MuFF To Tuff, it drives like it’s alive


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Posted Yesterday, 05:24 PM

Well the glorious age of the XJR6 is coming to an end. ELA just sold, and the new owner has just driven off in it. At least it went so someone who knew what he was buying. Once the turquoise car is collected that will mean that for the first time in a year there will be NO JAGS at chez Broadsword. :( Funds would allow for a cheap running project. I could repair poorly XJR6s all day long with the experience I have now gained, but somehow I don't think they will keep turning up at what I paid last time round.

 

A list of the Jags from the last 12 months in chronologicalish order:

 

XJ40 4.0 Sovereign (written off by someone who rear ended me)

X350 3.6 XJ8 SE (Royal Jag, used for holiday then sold on, fabulous condition)

X300 3.2 Sport in Sapphire Blue (still within this parish, fabulously clean example)

X300 Red Bike (obviously still within this parish, brilliant car, I had to own it at some point)

X308 XJR R1 (basket case in many ways, fixed engine up, then sold on as it had no future as a running concern, first taste of a supercharger, could never look back)

X306 XJR (ELA, a real highlight of the year as I love XJR6s)

X100 XK8 in pacific blue and remarkably with no rust (amazing cars when they are solid and working)

X308 4.0 V8 (fell into my lap, sold on, nice solid example with no issues)

X306 the turquoise shed of Pistonheads fame, proud to get it running and now the last Jag out!

 

By being careful and working on them myself, none of them FTPd and none of them incurred a loss, which is nice.

 

The two favourites out of that bunch are XJR and XK8, they are just amazing.







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