Tamworthbay Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Weird one here folks but bear with me. A local guy is selling an old moped I fancy but there is a catch. I know other people who have bought from him but he then turns up at their houses to talk bikes at weird hours and is a bit persistent. So what i want to know is how much info is on the letter the dvla send after ownership transfer? Does it say thanks for letting us know, or does it say you have sold it to Mr x of 1 main street etc. I am thinking I could do the change online to avoid the hassle but not if they then send him my address after. Don't suppose anyone has a copy they could check do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltox Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Weird one here folks but bear with me. A local guy is selling an old moped I fancy but there is a catch. I know other people who have bought from him but he then turns up at their houses to talk bikes at weird hours and is a bit persistent. So what i want to know is how much info is on the letter the dvla send after ownership transfer? Does it say thanks for letting us know, or does it say you have sold it to Mr x of 1 main street etc. I am thinking I could do the change online to avoid the hassle but not if they then send him my address after. Don't suppose anyone has a copy they could check do they?It says “we are confirming you no longer have an interest in vehicle VRM - make/model” That’s it. Most sellers will want your address rather than a promise to change ownership though in case you don’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickman Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 No personal details at all. egg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthbay Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 It says “we are confirming you no longer have an interest in vehicle VRM - make/model”That’s it. Most sellers will want your address rather than a promise to change ownership though in case you don’t I know this guy as he is well known locally and have chatted to him loads of times so don't think that will be an issue, it's just that he ended up hassling a mate a bit, I don't think he means it and i will take it to show him when it is done, but I don't want him arriving at my house at 9pm but he is a nice guy so would feel awkward telling him to sod off. Told you it was a weird one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesapandre Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 If selling/buying you do need to put your new keeper details on the V5C in two places , the bit the seller keeps and sends off and the bit you keep. However there are two ways round this - there may be others (1) I see no reason that you can't initially give an address as your own at a relatives house at the other end of the country as the address you are registering the vehicle at to avoid a visit or (2) use the online transfer of ownership option at the point of purchase - I have done this a few times on the .Gov.uk website with the owner as soon as I have the vehicle. The former keeper will have no record of your address then I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesapandre Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Using the motor trader section may also avoid this address issue - not sure on that. I suppose you may need to be a trader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthbay Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 He was happy for my mate to do it online there and then when he bought a bike from him a couple of months back so that should be ok. It's a Honda mt50 which are crap but was my first bike, it's well ropey but has mot and is £200. I feel bad asking as he is a lovely bloke but don't want to have to rude to him done point down the line. Thanks folks for the suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesapandre Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Go for the online - I was amazed how easy (casual) it was. There is no signature etc. which probably indicates how little weight is attached to the V5 regards 'ownership' it just shows the legal keeper. You can keep a record by screenshotting the pages on a smartphone - but obviously use your own phone with the sellers permission and if its not valuable omit the screenshot or dont tell the seller. I tax my cars online but always screenshot the transaction and record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SierraMikeHotel Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Can confirm. Got one through for the Saab just yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMC Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Also as a buyer if you are concerned about their admin skills you can take the entire side of the new keeper slip, the doc ref number in the trader section is the same as the number on the main v5- in theory this allows the use of the online service in the same way as the existing keeper would with their section. Just sayin like. lesapandre and dome 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesapandre Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Or if using the V5 come with a Swansea addressed stamped envelope - fill out both sections of the V5 sign and then put their section straight in the envelope seal it and say you will put it straight in the post and post it off. It feels a bit Tommy Cooper - don a fez whilst conducting this operation and say 'just like that' a few times to distract them. robinmasters 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesapandre Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 V5 - in post - just like that... And if you don't know of Tommy catch him on YouTube- great guy. eddyramrod 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bramz7 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Also as a buyer if you are concerned about their admin skills you can take the entire side of the new keeper slip, the doc ref number in the trader section is the same as the number on the main v5- in theory this allows the use of the online service in the same way as the existing keeper would with their section. Just sayin like.Yeah and when previous owner finds the bit they forgot to do, the V5 will then be void and out of date. I only learnt this as the guy I bought the R11 off of didn't ever send it off. lesapandre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierraman Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I got one this morning just acknowledges you are no longer owner of A123ABC egg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Tamworthbay and lesapandre 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordperv Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 He was happy for my mate to do it online there and then when he bought a bike from him a couple of months back so that should be ok. It's a Honda mt50 which are crap but was my first bike, it's well ropey but has mot and is £200. I feel bad asking as he is a lovely bloke but don't want to have to rude to him done point down the line. Thanks folks for the suggestions.An MT50 thats ace please tell me it's the orangey red they made them in, an old good mate had one when we were 16 when I had my AR50, his birthday is on the exact same day as mine and his surname is 2 letters off mine, we met by accident that's got absolutely nothing to do with the bike but its interesting* anyway please put pics up of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garbaldy Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 They don't even show previous keeper on the v5 anymore so only way he will get your name and addy is from you. Mt5 was also my first bike great for snail paced wheelys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuvvum Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I got one this morning just acknowledges you are no longer owner of A123ABCShame you got rid - that plate would have been worth a few quid. Dave_Q, MorrisItalSLX, lesapandre and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthbay Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 An MT50 thats ace please tell me it's the orangey red they made them in, an old good mate had one when we were 16 when I had my AR50, his birthday is on the exact same day as mine and his surname is 2 letters off mine, we met by accident that's got absolutely nothing to do with the bike but its interesting* anyway please put pics up of itThat’s the one! Mine was brand new (I saved for four years) and cost £789otr reg was E660DRB. I have just phoned the guy and he is being evasive about when I can go and see it. Hope he isn’t getting cold feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthbay Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 It’s a no goer sadly, the guy has decided to hold onto it for a while (to be fair he did say he wasn’t 100% sure about selling it) but I have got first refusal if he changes his mind. Probably for the best as not ideal time with all the stuff going on but wouldn’t have missed out on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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