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#1 OFFLINE   robinmasters

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Posted 24 October 2018 - 05:01 PM

Given the time of day, no gratuitous breakfast shot. I did pack a cheese sandwich; if you want to know what it looks like, imagine a cheese sandwich-just like that. 
 
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Posted 24 October 2018 - 05:02 PM

I'm trying NOT to imagine a pre-1990 cheese sandwich...

 

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Posted 24 October 2018 - 06:18 PM

That London achieved. I say achieved, endured might be more appropriate. I'm sure it gets worse every time I pass through.

 

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Posted 24 October 2018 - 09:23 PM

But what was it?

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Posted 24 October 2018 - 09:30 PM

If his vision is like in that picture there's a fair chance he's eaten that sandwich... :-D


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Posted 24 October 2018 - 10:29 PM

If his vision is like in that picture there's a fair chance he's eaten that sandwich... :-D

 

Without my glasses it's more like I've eaten three of those sandwiches.


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Posted 24 October 2018 - 10:33 PM

So what warranted a 400-mile round trip on a school night?

 

A Citroen.

 

A Xantia 1.9 TD VSX. So that's an XUD turbo, with hydractive suspension.

 

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Posted 24 October 2018 - 10:41 PM

Wow.  An early one with the chevrons on the bonnet.

 

400 miles on a school night?  HARD CORE.


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Posted 25 October 2018 - 01:50 AM

Yes, HARD CORE. Just got home. Work tomorrow. Took my usually collection kit of no tools and no breakdown cover, and remain in denial about my USB adapter not working in nearly any car, so sat nav could only be used for the tricky bits. 

 

We all know what chevrons on the bonnet mean? Yes, it's a sinker. Not content with simply having excellent suspension, when parked it 'lays frame' as our transatlantic friends say, to show it off. 

 

Purchased from a Facebook-only shiter, Lewis. He's the one that's into 106s, if you're a member of the main group on there (I'm not, just the shite for sale group). In Birmingham. In the dark.

 

It's a good one. 58k, no rust (hardly any) in the two critical areas. Suspensions a bit lazy, but it sorts itself out fairly quickly if you select high then go back down to normal-possibly a sticky height corrector? The LHM probably needs changing. The central locking unlocks immediately after locking-seems to be the driver's door solenoid. Needs front pads, and a handbrake cable. There is an intermittent problem with one rear window (switch or wiring probably). Now I've written that down is seems like a long list, but it's nothing serious, nothing beyond my capabilities and all fairly cheap. 

 

VSX is fairly high-spec, so electric windows all round, electric mirrors, and a big sunroof. Velour interior (an interesting pattern, I'll post pics soonish), without any significant wear to the driver's bolster. Pompe Bosch. It goes well, as my journey home proved. 200 miles of easy, rapid, progress. It's a sort of emerald green, which I don't remember having seen before; again, pics to follow-I haven't seen it in the sunlight yet, but I imagine it really looks good (apart from the dodgy lacquer on the boot lid.

 

All in all, very pleased with it. I will post further pictures when it's daylight and I've caught up on my sleep, and will try and find pics of my previous Xantias (this is the fourth one, I think). 


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Posted 25 October 2018 - 06:24 AM

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Posted 26 October 2018 - 11:23 PM

Just driven from Llandudno earlier today back home to Burnley in my 37k Xantia 1.9D, same year in green. It has a flat-spot at 1/4 throttle with its Rotodiesel pump. Tank unit filter was full of crud but flatness remains..

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Posted 27 October 2018 - 07:33 AM

i remeber driving my mates one, was very nice until the pas starting to play up and needed arms like arnie to steer it, couldnt fix it, no matter what we did, it got scrapped, then when in scrapyard a bloke not scrapyard owner say oh yeah theres a filter inside that get blocked and causes the pas to fail..grr


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Posted 27 October 2018 - 10:55 AM

Nice purchase. Sounds like with some minor* fettling, it should shape up to be a solid runner. On mine I like to spray the suspension height corrector regularly with Plusgas and do some Citrobatics once a week or so. This seems to keep it happy.



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Posted 27 October 2018 - 02:20 PM

TD VSX sinkers must be in single figures in this country. Does it have the green interior? The second best interior on a Xant after the early tweedy LX seats. The mid spec velour jobs really aren't that great.

I would like to express a serious intention of DIBS when you decide to move this one on, please
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Posted 27 October 2018 - 05:50 PM

Looking forward to hearing more, early Xantias were built extremely well. I smoked about in an brown L-reg 1.9D with tweed seats for a while, it felt stronger than a Benz 124 (and nearly as slow as their four pot diesels).

Hydractives can be a bit sharp and wooden on English roadsbut they're extraordinarily capable at higher speeds on A and B roads. Using XM centre spheres can improve matters no end, as can slightly larger volume corner ones.

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Posted 05 November 2018 - 11:17 PM

Quick bit of background; this is my fourth (I was convinced the last one was the fourth, but I think I've made that up). 

 

The first was a 1.8 pezzer (SX I think).  Shortly after buying it I saw some BX GTi alloys on eBay, near my father in law, so had a bid.  I was the only bidder, and got them for ~£20.  The bloke had restored his BX GTi, then immediately bent it, so the wheels were as new and the tyres had only a couple of hundred miles on.  This had the usual problems - the heater failed due to Citroen's omission of a relay between the ignition switch and the huge draw of the heater/blower - I bypassed it with one of those orange mains connectors you get on lawnmowers etc.  The drivers window fell down - they're held in by a single plastic clip thing.  I played cambelt roulette, and lost. 

 

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Many years later I got a series 2 estate.  HDi, silver, many, many miles.  It was very baggy, leaked LHM, and I didn't keep it long; nor did i take any pictures. 

 

The third was a 2.1TD estate, in doom blue.  The best so far, despite the rustier-than-I-thought-they-were rear arches.  It also leaked LHM.  Copiously.  Died when a bit of loom wore through the auxiliary belt, and I had a proper look at it-at this point I noticed the frilly arches and the impending MOT, and got rid. 

 

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The current one had an FTP today.  Clutch pedal clip (TADTS).  I had to get a bus!  Local Citroen dealer should have one (and a spare) for me by tomorrow.  Fitting is generally considered a massive ball-ache. 

 

The seller told me that he'd replaced it recently; having seen some of the other bodgery on the car (more on that in a future post) I suspect the early failure of the new part may be down to fitting, rather than a problem somewhere else; the clutch cable looks relatively new. 


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Posted 05 November 2018 - 11:47 PM

Only recollection I have of doing the clutch clip on these is I removed the drivers seat completely and then used a crowbar to lever a pedal out, bolt goes through the wrong way on RHD but would be a dream on a LHD



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Posted 06 November 2018 - 07:55 AM

I changed mine by lying upside down in the footwell with the seat fitted. Top tip is to peel the carpet from behind the pedals and rip the foam out from under the clutch pedal so it can sit lower
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Posted 06 November 2018 - 08:06 AM

And a fellow shiter tabact, who came to help me which was handy as he pushed the clutch cable right into the cabin and helped me slide out from the footwell when my entire lower end went numb after 20 minutes
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Posted 06 November 2018 - 09:52 AM

That mk1 Xantia on BX alloys looks ace! Those wheels really suited it!

Damn it, you have me having covetous thoughts again. I had a mk2 HDi for a year and a half, it wasn't particularly fast, but once it got going it covered ground effortlessly.

I kind of want another XUD-powered car (my first car was a Peugeot 306 TD), and I've been bitten by the LHM bug...
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Posted 06 November 2018 - 10:16 AM

Nice. WouLD


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Posted 27 November 2018 - 11:28 PM

I've had a bad day.

I think I've already mentioned the issues with the central locking; it 'bounces'. Locks then immediately unlocks. I took apart the drivers side, snapped part of the the handle. Today, I tried fitting the new the handle; the connecting rods will not stay connected. I've had the handle and lock in and out as many times as the proverbial.

I've also got the ropey clutch to deal with (still a click on the clutch, and it's quite heavy),

I might sell this.
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Posted 28 November 2018 - 01:56 AM

I hate door furniture. It's why our passat is going in on Thursday - piss poor door locks. I would rather dine on my own excrement than mess with them.

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Posted 29 November 2018 - 09:10 AM

Lovely, would.
Sinkers are super rare now.

I was lucky enough to not have had the clutch clip fail on my xud. But I seem to remember there being a place that sold a metal replacement, I'll try and dig out the info on that. Sadly, when the clutch gets that heavy its time for a replacement clutch.
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Posted 29 November 2018 - 09:21 AM

Dodgy locks could well be wiring between door and body. That's what happens on 306d at any rate. 


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Posted 30 November 2018 - 08:06 AM

Dodgy locks could well be wiring between door and body. That's what happens on 306d at any rate. 

 

Exactly what was happening on my 306, I just unplugged the central locking control module under the back to seat, stops them all immediately unlocking.



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Posted 30 November 2018 - 12:37 PM

Can we please have some in focus/ in daylight pics of this one? I am getting a bit hot under the collar just thinking about that lovely interior


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Posted 09 December 2018 - 08:20 PM

This is now for sale.

I've realised I simply don't have the enthusiasm/time/space/money to look after this properly.

I haven't managed to fix the driver's door, the rod keeps jumping off the clip that hole it into the latch mechanism. All the parts are there.

The click on the clutch pedal seems to have gone away; must have been the clip bedding in, rather than the cable ad I had feared. Comes with a new clutch cable which is bought as a precaution, and another clutch clip.

I think the LHM filter needs changing-is a bit slow to rise. It also need a handbrake cable.

This is a VSX-relatively rare now-which means it has hydractive suspension (variable damping and switchable sports mode). Also has electric windows, mirrors and sunroof, and a rear sun blind.

I want what I paid for it, £600. I'm in Folkestone, Kent.

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 10:40 PM

If you happen to join the mass ROFFLE, shall be interested. (Makes the £££ train price easier to pocket)
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Posted 10 December 2018 - 09:50 PM

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