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#1 OFFLINE   Tim_E

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Posted 12 October 2018 - 09:23 PM

My beloved Saab 9-3 OG 2000 2.0t has come to an end.

 

After getting though his MOT and having the advisories taken care of (front suspension ball joints) there was found a monster lurking.

 

Having new shiny lower suspension arms on the front it turns out that the loads on the suspension forced an issue hitherto unnoticed; a crack in the body where the steering rack attaches.

 

This is either engine out and tricky welding or breaking for parts, and I offer Sven the Saab (my 4y/o daughter named him) for sale thus.

 

With a tear in my eye I have to say bye-bye.

 

Please get in touch if you are interested. Cheers

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Posted 12 October 2018 - 09:46 PM

Sad to see one of these bite the dust. I think they look really smart and the interiors are just brilliant. Must be plenty of good spares there for money! Worrying how many things are missed by MOT testers.

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Posted 12 October 2018 - 09:50 PM

If this was a 93NG I'd have been interested in a few bits to prolong the life of mine. I take it there are very few common parts.


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Posted 12 October 2018 - 09:57 PM

If this was a 93NG I'd have been interested in a few bits to prolong the life of mine. I take it there are very few common parts.

 

 

Sad to see one of these bite the dust. I think they look really smart and the interiors are just brilliant. Must be plenty of good spares there for money! Worrying how many things are missed by MOT testers.

These are thoroughly gorgeous cars both in form and function. They are comfortable, quiet, quick and practical and the a/c is on another level. Shame my a/c compressor clutch is worn so it gives up in the heat. Anyway yes it's a major expense and has dashed my ambition to take it to over 200k miles. There are some common parts to the NG, depending on the engine and ECM version. Let me know if you want something, I can split if know what you want.



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Posted 12 October 2018 - 10:05 PM

Mainly I'm after a decent Diesel engine for mine. It's the only major thing wrong with it!

 

Is it the bulkhead split this one has?


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Posted 12 October 2018 - 10:13 PM

Mainly I'm after a decent Diesel engine for mine. It's the only major thing wrong with it!

 

Is it the bulkhead split this one has?

The crack is where the steering rack attaches to the body, so I guess so.



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Posted 12 October 2018 - 10:21 PM

Got to do some maths and speak to the garage I use for welding etc. I know a rack brace kit isn't expensive, and can be used if the crack is smoll.


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Posted 12 October 2018 - 10:22 PM

I guess the recall repair is long out of date? I know Saab is gone, but these were made when GM owned them and were responsible.
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Posted 12 October 2018 - 10:23 PM

I found this online, doesn’t mention having to pull the engine for the fix???

Saab admits that all RHD GM900/9-3's are prone to firewall or bulkhead cracks. This is an important saftey issue. Saab Australia is repairing all vehicles at Saab's cost irrespective of where the vehicle has been serviced or the vehicle warranty. Procedure 1. Determine if there is a crack. This will be located around the brake booster and where the rack attaches to the firewall. Check with a mechanic, you can see the crack without the need for hoisting the vehicle. 2. Contact your local Saab dealer for an inspection. My dealer couldnt even see the crack and gave me a hard time. If they do contact your Saab/GM consumer hotline. 3. They will put your vehicle into the system for repairs. There is a 3 month wait for Saab parts in Australia. 4. A panel shop will remove the brake booster, Steering box and steering rack. A Saab repair kit will be welded to the firewall. Repaint. Replace brake booster, steering rack and replace with fresh Saab oil.

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Posted 13 October 2018 - 12:38 AM

It was a problem on the OG93 usually spotted on the convertibles first and a lot of 93s ended up with a steering rack brace to prevent this.

Guessing as the miles have racked up, the inevitable has happened.

Sorry to hear it, they’re lovely things.

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Posted 13 October 2018 - 08:57 AM

Quite repairable. There's a kit:

 

https://www.ebay.co....K-/332143417617

 

which does the job.


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Posted 13 October 2018 - 03:24 PM

/\ The picture looks like two bits of plastic and a cable tie  :-D


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Posted 13 October 2018 - 06:19 PM

/\ The picture looks like two bits of plastic and a cable tie  :-D

 

It does, but I guess it saves the bit of fabrication which is the time consuming part of welding.

 

I'd be getting a quote on the welding before I scrapped it, especially if I'd looked after it.


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Posted 13 October 2018 - 06:22 PM

It does, but I guess it saves the bit of fabrication which is the time consuming part of welding.

 

I'd be getting a quote on the welding before I scrapped it, especially if I'd looked after it.

Yes, I'm going to get another quote. The first one I had was over £500. I'm going to get more opinions, and I'll keep the thread up to date of course.



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Posted 13 October 2018 - 06:28 PM

I don’t know if it’s a bolt/stable door thing but I had a steering rack brace fitted to my 9-3 to prevent this problem, if you do get it welded would make sense to lob one of those on at same time. Abbot racing do one for silly ££ but alternatives are available.

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Posted 13 October 2018 - 06:29 PM

Yes, I'm going to get another quote. The first one I had was over £500. I'm going to get more opinions, and I'll keep the thread up to date of course.


Where abouts in the country are you? JamSaab in Bristol are supposed to be pretty reasonable. Also Sussex Saab, who sell that adapter plate, are supposed to be cheap too at having the necessary welding done.
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Posted 13 October 2018 - 06:32 PM

Where abouts in the country are you? JamSaab in Bristol are supposed to be pretty reasonable. Also Sussex Saab, who sell that adapter plate, are supposed to be cheap too at having the necessary welding done.

I'm in North East Wales, my closest Saab specialist is in Wrexham and it's Higher Oaks Garage... I'll be giving them a phone on Monday morning.



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Posted 13 October 2018 - 06:55 PM

Yes, I'm going to get another quote. The first one I had was over £500. I'm going to get more opinions, and I'll keep the thread up to date of course.

 

Good man. A mobile welder might also sort that relatively cheaply.

 

You could ask on UKSaabs for thoughts? I think many on there have had this done.


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Posted 13 October 2018 - 07:16 PM

Good man. A mobile welder might also sort that relatively cheaply.

 

You could ask on UKSaabs for thoughts? I think many on there have had this done.

Yes there are several threads. I have had a read through, will see what I can and update the thread as and when I find things out! At first I didn't realise it was a common thing, neither did the garage I took it to, but then they are not Saab experts, but still a very good garage. I don't want to have to give up on it, but we'll see on the outcome. I'll leave the thread up for the time being, but I'll keep it up to date. Thanks to everyone, I think my initial shock has died a bit! I hope I can save my Saab.

 

Still, I have had a good time shopping for cheap (sub-£1000) Jag X-type AWD cars...



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Posted 13 October 2018 - 07:19 PM

If you want another car that requires welding then get an x-type! ;)

In regards to the Saab, TADIS. So much so, there was a recall campaign on them.
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Posted 13 October 2018 - 07:55 PM

If you want another car that requires welding then get an x-type! ;)

In regards to the Saab, TADIS. So much so, there was a recall campaign on them.

Haha yes I see that on the MOT history most of them have corrosion issues. Hmmmm I was only joking this morning how British made cars have a reputation for rotting. Perhaps the designers should have talked more about the weather with their colleges every morning.



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Posted 15 October 2018 - 01:51 PM

Update: Damage to bulkhead is not repairable without removing engine and gearbox and doing major welding. After speaking with Higher Oaks and JamSaab and getting the same answer, as well as my local garage, the only answer is to either sell as parts or part it out myself.

 

Therefore, Sven my beloved Saab is for sale as such. £250 and he's yours to trailer away or parts for sale.



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Posted 15 October 2018 - 03:18 PM

That’s a crying shame. Curse you GM, probably.

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Posted 15 October 2018 - 03:32 PM

Is it a B204 engine that's in this?

[Squints at Locost with its redtop and omega gearbox]

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Posted 15 October 2018 - 04:06 PM

Is it a B204 engine that's in this?

[Squints at Locost with its redtop and omega gearbox]

It's the B205, the black Direct Ignition Cartridge, with the T7 ECM.

 

The ECU has a NoobTune map so it makes 220PS at full throttle and about 360 Nm 3000rpm on the stock components. I occasionally used it like this ;) but mostly used the extra low down grunt for wafting.


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Posted 15 October 2018 - 04:24 PM

Been doing the maths over the weekend and financially it's out of my reach by the time I've factored in getting it to Sussex and had the repairs done. Being an original model 93 there's not much that could be used on my car to prolong its life.

 

All the best with the sale.


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Posted 15 October 2018 - 04:34 PM

Been doing the maths over the weekend and financially it's out of my reach by the time I've factored in getting it to Sussex and had the repairs done. Being an original model 93 there's not much that could be used on my car to prolong its life.

 

All the best with the sale.

Thanks :) 



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Posted 15 October 2018 - 08:05 PM

Ah, if it had been an earlier car with T5 and a B204 I might've been tempted. Probably for the best, it might get a chance to live on!

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Posted 16 October 2018 - 04:50 AM

Update: Damage to bulkhead is not repairable without removing engine and gearbox and doing major welding. After speaking with Higher Oaks and JamSaab and getting the same answer, as well as my local garage, the only answer is to either sell as parts or part it out myself.

Therefore, Sven my beloved Saab is for sale as such. £250 and he's yours to trailer away or parts for sale.


It seems GM learnt nothing from the mk2 cavalier convertible which was prone to this.
A work mate called Frank fixed his on his drive by taking the engine out and welding it up.

I know it's money and or time but what is stopping you or anyone else doing that?

It seems to me that would be a great long by term investment for someone.

Not me obviously.

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Posted 16 October 2018 - 06:27 AM

It seems GM learnt nothing from the mk2 cavalier convertible which was prone to this.
A work mate called Frank fixed his on his drive by taking the engine out and welding it up.
I know it's money and or time but what is stopping you or anyone else doing that?
It seems to me that would be a great long by term investment for someone.
Not me obviously.

It is an utter bargain but sadly I think beyond what a lot of home mechanics would take on these days. I wouldn’t bat an eye lid at whipping an engine out of a mk2 Cav but this would make me nervous. Stupid really as I am sure it’s just a bit more complex but as long as you are methodical it can’t be that hard can it? Will be a great car for someone.





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