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#1 OFFLINE   rantingYoof

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Posted 04 October 2018 - 05:35 PM

Some of you will know that sims, who sadly had to move his Lexus on very shortly after collecting it, very kindly delivered it to me last Saturday for an exceptionally reasonable additional fee...

 

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The new Lexus is essentially Mason Mk2; here is the original for comparison...

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Mason Mk2 differs in a number of small ways from the original Mason...

  • Mason Mk2 has 30hp more, VVTi and an extra gear, meaning it does 70mph at 2100rpm and is doing well into naughty speeds by 3000rpm but is still virtually silent
  • Mason Mk2 has evidently been seriously cared for mechanically, which can be discerned even without the bills that back this up
  • Mason Mk2 has done 40k miles more but feels like it has half the miles Mason had on him when I owned him
  • Mason Mk2 has working heated seats (driver's side only tested so far)
  • Mason Mk2 has a built in sat nav from 1998 which doesn't recognise half of the county I live in (my road was built in 1985 and it doesn't show on the screen)
  • Mason Mk2 is completely water tight (boot seal replaced)

There are probably other ways but I cannot think of them right now.

 

There is some very minor bubbling on the arches (paint not broken) so the plan is to clean out underneath and lob on something to prevent it getting worse over winter. Sims thought the front brakes would benefit from being changed but the bite on them is astonishing...there's just a sliiiiiiiiiight shudder through the wheel when braking from higher speeds and I'm inclined to live with it and see if the warp gets balanced out.

 

The only other issue which is of a higher priority for me is the CD player, which unfortunately doesn't work. It makes all the right noises (i.e. it's getting power, and recognises the disc after it's been inserted), but having tried a store-bought CD and a burned CD it comes up with this error regardless...

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The only option is to whack in a 'cleaner' CD and hope it does something to the laser reader. Otherwise, I'm going to need to investigate the cost of replacing the unit. May need to Google Toyota independents in the vicinity!

 

But no matter...the car is astonishing. I cannot really describe it in any other way. The day it was delivered the 70 miles or so to me I then took it out on a 100 mile roundtrip to Birmingham and back along the M1/M6 and back through Coventry...it did the journey averaging over 30mpg, and I wasn't precisely hypermiling. On my site visits and commute to work and back I've somehow managed 25-26. The same, if not better, than the Omega, and only marginally worse than the S60!

 

I can't get my head around how NEW it feels. The engine feels like it's done 70k...hell, even 17k, rather than 170k. The gearbox (which has had fluid changed) is absolutely sublime.

 

And when VVTi kicks in it feels like you could break orbit of the planet. I've not dared go 100% throttle yet because I can feel so much potential.

 

The noise is so muted it's almost disappointing. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't considering removing the rear tips and muffler and replacing them with something subtle (i.e. hidden) but a bit grumblier. Not sure on the cost of that though...

 

 

TL:DR - I'm rather exceptionally pleased with my purchase and can thoroughly recommend sims as a Shiter with whom to do business with. He has first dibs on this when I come to sell it. Unfortunately right now this is a scenario I'm not able to envisage...we'll see what a winter of petrol price increases does to my enthusiasm though :-D.


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Posted 04 October 2018 - 05:47 PM

There is a reputable Toyota indy in Stonehouse, Gloucestershire depending on how far/close you are to them...
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Posted 04 October 2018 - 05:53 PM

The noise is so muted it's almost disappointing. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't considering removing the rear tips and muffler and replacing them with something subtle (i.e. hidden) but a bit grumblier. Not sure on the cost of that though...

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Wallsend?.....it's not the End of the Walled ;<)

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Posted 04 October 2018 - 06:43 PM

There is a reputable Toyota indy in Stonehouse, Gloucestershire depending on how far/close you are to them...

Thanks for the suggestion...sadly too far away from me.

I'll do some Googling though. :)

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Posted 04 October 2018 - 07:55 PM

Nice one! I know they're basically the same, but somehow your photo of the new one makes it look even bigger. Which is good.

 

Brakes on my old one had a slight judder when I bought it, cured by getting the discs skimmed. If you do that may as well chuck new pads in at the same time (preferably OE, why skimp now?).


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Posted 05 October 2018 - 09:42 AM

By they amount of 1UZ engines finding their way into everything else, these will soon become like BX 16 valves and other engine rape victims and should be enjoyed while they can be
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Posted 05 October 2018 - 09:44 AM

Looks very niiiice
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Posted 05 October 2018 - 10:11 AM

CD cleaners are a bit hit and miss.If it doesn't work,take out the unit and see if there's any way to get a line of sight to the laser lens,then clean it with a cotton bud dipped in alcohol.It has worked for me in the past,and at that stage you don't have much to lose.Nothing would make my Xantia read CDs until I did that,and afterwards the unit worked perfectly for 3 years.

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 10:12 AM

Said it before - say it on and on....... the best ever wafter out there........ these things are truly fantastic motors. Insane the prices you can get them for and that engine...... just WOW.

Unfortunately mine was Jap import limo spec - heated massage seats - but only in the back! bastards! 

 

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 10:25 AM

I did like the massage seats in that Celsior.



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Posted 05 October 2018 - 12:30 PM

Find your nearest Powerflow dealer for reasonably priced bespoke stainless exhaust bits.
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Posted 05 October 2018 - 07:37 PM

Finally, this will be my new favorite thread on here now.


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1996 BMW E39 528i                      - Contemplating whether to keep or sell...
1995 Lincoln Mark VIII LSC           - Now famous for having been on the Nordschleife

1995 Oldsmobile Aurora                - Fuel Filter finally replaced! Still doesn't start...
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1992 Toyota Celsior C-Spec          - Now with new Alternator and PS Pump! Finding a Set of Coilovers next!
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Posted 05 October 2018 - 09:03 PM

as this is an superior motor car surely he sholud be known as Mason II or Mason the 2nd not mk2!

 

have you got the discs the right side up- some multichangers load differently to others- ask me how i know :oops: :oops:


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Posted 06 October 2018 - 11:09 AM

You are quite right, Noel. Thread title changed appropriately.

 

And yes, I remember from Mason the 1st that the discs go in the 'other' way up, and unfortunately I cannot blame this for the non-functioning CD player.

 

I tried to record a dashcam clip of this accelerating yesterday because I feel that, for those who don't know, it's something that must be shared. I drove home an alternative route to make use of a 30-60mph transition on a wide rural road. I stuck it in third and went FULL THROTTLE™ for the first time, and pretty much shat myself because the forward leap was, embarrasingly, unexpectedly vicious.

 

In no time I was doing 60ish, and felt pleased.

 

I got home, and reviewed the footage. Of course, because it's an LS400, what is displayed on the video is simply some numbers changing uneventfully from around 28mph to 60mph without any real noise or commotion to hint at the physics-bending reality of it all. In fact, such a dull video it was that I deleted it.

 

I will try again on a quieter road surface when I can open the windows or sunroof. For science, you understand.


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Posted 06 October 2018 - 11:37 AM

The trackday footage I did in mine was similarly smooth - 140-odd was so calm and serene.


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Posted 06 October 2018 - 11:56 AM

Exceedingly well bought, I had a hunch that you'd wind up with another LS400 eventually!



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Posted 06 October 2018 - 02:05 PM

The trackday footage I did in mine was similarly smooth - 140-odd was so calm and serene.

It was, wasn't it?  Quite a contrast to 120 in a Rover 200...



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Posted 10 November 2018 - 11:33 AM

Lexus update!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It still works.


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Posted 10 November 2018 - 11:39 AM

I have never had a Lexus but always wanted one, preferably a 400 - 460. Can I have dibs when you flog it ?

 

 

 

 

 

So long as you don't do too many track days in the poor old lass!



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Posted 10 November 2018 - 11:46 AM

In all seriousness...

 

  • I've not got around to looking for a Toyota indy that may be happy to have a gander at the CD player for me. I definitely will do this because I really miss having music, and while sims kindly left a high quality cassette adapter for my MP3 player with the car, I'd rather create a CD of bespoke tracks and use the car's own controls than have umpteen billion tracks to try and flick through while driving.
     
  • The brake judder at higher speeds remains present, I guess the discs are slightly warped, but otherwise the brakes are the best I've had in a car of this size, with a very reassuring bite. The S60's slightly warped discs eventually 'unwarped' as I guess they were evened out over time, so rather than shell out money I will monitor the severity of the judder (which isn't terrible at all) and see if the same thing happens. [/irresponsible]
     
  • SnrYoof has bought a replacement aerial, and I know that Mr Hubnut did a video when he replaced the aerial of Mason, so we may be looking at that to see if we can determine how to do it. This is really just so I can lower it completely and stop the car looking like the world's most luxurious dodgem.
     
  • It's been averaging near-as-damnit 25mpg per tank according to the computer, so let's call it 22-23mpg in real terms. Hardly bad for a V8 being used as a daily, on a 18 mile a day commute mostly at 70mph and then for runs into town and back. Fuel prices may be the only influencing factor in any future decision to sell it, and right now I cannot ever see myself letting it go...sorry sims!
     
  • The VVTi is, quite frankly, epic. I took a work colleague out for a spin on a lunch break and demonstrated it to him...lock it in 3rd, and just go stomp at 30mph. It launches forwards and gathers pace rapidly for a near 2000kg car, but around 4000rpm or a little more you suddenly get an extra shove in the back. Sadly, at this point I tend to have to bottle out because the speed limit has been breached.
     
  • Finally, I must stress that this car has been mechanically maintained to perfection, and it is impossible to tell it has done 175k. It's staggering how reassuring it is to drive just in the sense that you get the impression it'll just go and go and go and go. If you told me that tomorrow I'd have to set off for the southern tip of Italy and I wasn't allowed to service the car or even open the bonnet before setting off, I would have ZERO fear. And while I'm a man of science, I also irrationally fear THE JINX...and even this irrational fear hasn't prevented me from commiting that statement to Internet pixels.

 

Lexus LS400. WOOD STRONGLY RECOMMEND.


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Posted 10 November 2018 - 11:49 AM

I have never had a Lexus but always wanted one, preferably a 400 - 460. Can I have dibs when you flog it ?

 

 

 

 

 

So long as you don't do too many track days in the poor old lass!

 

sims, who sadly couldn't keep it very long, has very first dibs, but if he manages to fill his LS400 boots with another specimen in the intervening time I believe you are the only other person who has expressed dibs in such understandably brazen fashion. :-D


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Posted 10 November 2018 - 12:13 PM

Your getting better mpg from your V8 than I am from my RX300 with the V6, man maths mean I must swap the RX300 for a LS430 or LS460 to save money.

 

I've not been able to find a Lexus/Toyota specialist in Northamptonshire yet, so if you do let me know who it is.



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Posted 10 November 2018 - 12:20 PM

Good to hear it's going well (although little surprise).

 

I'll repeat my suggestion for getting the discs skimmed, which sorted mine out.


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Posted 10 November 2018 - 12:28 PM

Aerial mast replacement if it's the same as the rx300, there is a special sequence of buttons to press to eject the mast, this didn't work for me and I ended up using a slide hammer after removing and stripping the mechanism to gently* persuaded years of oil dust and crap to let go. Ours needed a damn good clean out anyway as the grease was no longer greasy or where it needed to be.

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Posted 10 November 2018 - 12:30 PM

Your getting better mpg from your V8 than I am from my RX300 with the V6, man maths mean I must swap the RX300 for a LS430 or LS460 to save money.

I've not been able to find a Lexus/Toyota specialist in Northamptonshire yet, so if you do let me know who it is.


Can I express an interest in the rx300 if not terminally rusty or expensive.

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Posted 10 November 2018 - 12:42 PM

Your getting better mpg from your V8 than I am from my RX300 with the V6, man maths mean I must swap the RX300 for a LS430 or LS460 to save money.

 

I've not been able to find a Lexus/Toyota specialist in Northamptonshire yet, so if you do let me know who it is.

 

When I had Mason the First in 2015, there was a Toyota Indy here which I was directed to when I was enquiring about the super-aggressive warm-up issue...

https://goo.gl/maps/qhV58mWTiMP2

 

I will go for a snoop today when we go out to see if it is still there.

 

EDIT - by 'here' I mean just to the left of 'Dynamic Office Seating' and accesed from Tweed Road.


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Posted 10 November 2018 - 02:43 PM

I wish they made an RX with the V8. I'd be selling the legacy*


*As long as it came with a junkman approved gearbox and not a CVT.

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Posted 10 November 2018 - 02:49 PM

I wish they made an RX with the V8. I'd be selling the legacy*


*As long as it came with a junkman approved gearbox and not a CVT.

Miss our LS muchly. Auto luxobarges will never be the same again.

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Posted 10 November 2018 - 03:08 PM

I wish they made an RX with the V8. I'd be selling the legacy*


*As long as it came with a junkman approved gearbox and not a CVT.

Miss our LS muchly. Auto luxobarges will never be the same again.


I’ve got an RX with a CVT and I don’t really mind it. It really suits the relaxed character of the car as it just kind of goes. Horses for courses and I know CVT’s aren’t amazing, but in this car it’s not bad


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Posted 10 November 2018 - 03:19 PM

I’ve got an RX with a CVT and I don’t really mind it. It really suits the relaxed character of the car as it just kind of goes. Horses for courses and I know CVT’s aren’t amazing, but in this car it’s not bad

 

And very nice it is too......


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