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#21031 OFFLINE   wuvvum

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 11:52 PM

So the Rover of Doom is about to run out of MOT.  When I MOT'd the 45 a couple of months ago I had to buy it a cat as under the new regs it needs one for the test as it was fitted with one from the factory.

 

The 45 was 2002, the RoD is 1998.  Will I need to buy it a cat as well (or at least a de-cat pipe which looks like a cat) or does that rule only apply to post-2001 CO2-bollocks cars?



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Posted 06 December 2018 - 05:58 AM

So the Rover of Doom is about to run out of MOT. When I MOT'd the 45 a couple of months ago I had to buy it a cat as under the new regs it needs one for the test as it was fitted with one from the factory.

The 45 was 2002, the RoD is 1998. Will I need to buy it a cat as well (or at least a de-cat pipe which looks like a cat) or does that rule only apply to post-2001 CO2-bollocks cars?


Will it pass emissions with no cat ?
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Posted 06 December 2018 - 07:20 AM

When I asked my tame MOT tester about a similar thing I was informed that I would need a cat for my 1992 Alfa, as it had one from the factory … Even though they weren't a requirement until 1994, if it had one from the factory it should still be there.

 

Can any of the testers on here confirm this is true?


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Posted 06 December 2018 - 07:53 AM

1998 will have to pass a cat test so will need a cat

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 08:18 AM

When I asked my tame MOT tester about a similar thing I was informed that I would need a cat for my 1992 Alfa, as it had one from the factory … Even though they weren't a requirement until 1994, if it had one from the factory it should still be there.

 

Is that the same for a dizzler though? 

 

 

It's always passed the emissions sans cat.  So did the 45 in fact.



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Posted 06 December 2018 - 08:24 AM

When I asked my tame MOT tester about a similar thing I was informed that I would need a cat for my 1992 Alfa, as it had one from the factory … Even though they weren't a requirement until 1994, if it had one from the factory it should still be there.

 

Can any of the testers on here confirm this is true?

 

does that rely on them having encyclopedic knowledge of how every car and variant left the factory ?

 

my 91 car had a cat and somehow its gone missing , nothing ever been said sinse 1999 when i got it....sometimes they point at the small can where the o2 sensor is and think its a cat lol 



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Posted 06 December 2018 - 08:29 AM

91/92 is the cut off for the cat test iirc. There were a few crossover grey areas such as mpi minis , kit cars and Suzuki’s I think
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Posted 06 December 2018 - 08:39 AM

does that rely on them having encyclopedic knowledge of how every car and variant left the factory ?

 

I rather suspect the system tells them.


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Posted 06 December 2018 - 09:31 AM

Where do people in other countries think Fords come from?
The ones I've owned were probably all made in Ghent or Valencia, yet I don't really think of them as foreign cars. Perversely, a Sunderland-built Micra would be.
Does a Frenchman think his Ford is French, Belgian, Spanish - what?
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Posted 06 December 2018 - 11:00 AM

I believe cats were mandatory on petrols from 1993 model year onwards (K reg on), but I may be wrong. I think it's related to the date the chassis number was assigned to the car rather than the registration date for added confusion. Or something.

 

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 11:20 AM

Is that the same for a dizzler though?


It's always passed the emissions sans cat. So did the 45 in fact.


These old 90s designed diesels don't have a catalytic converter, it's more of a primitive particulate filter.
They can pass emissions tests without it fitted but still emit harmful particulates.
It might be at the tester's discretion to pass it if the particulate filter is clearly removed but I imagine a lot are playing it safe.
It's hard to find any information about the post 1995ish diesels fitted with particulate filters so I guess they're treated like any other diesels with particulate filters.

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 11:21 AM

Where do people in other countries think Fords come from?
The ones I've owned were probably all made in Ghent or Valencia, yet I don't really think of them as foreign cars. Perversely, a Sunderland-built Micra would be.
Does a Frenchman think his Ford is French, Belgian, Spanish - what?

It always grinds my gears when lazy hacks refer to Fords from Dagenham and Vauxhalls from Luton.
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Posted 06 December 2018 - 11:23 AM

It always grinds my gears when lazy hacks refer to Fords from Dagenham and Vauxhalls from Luton.


I still hear Capris being referred to as Dagenham dustbins, or ‘the best budget British sports coupe’ or whatever, despite the fact that Germany is their home really.
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Posted 06 December 2018 - 12:08 PM

Does a Frenchman think his Ford is French, Belgian, Spanish - what?

A Frenchman has a tendency to think everything is French.

 

 

As far as I can make out, most of our Continental cousins seem to think of Ford as German.


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Posted 06 December 2018 - 03:17 PM

Where has the 'Donate' button gone?

 

Asking for a friend naturally! :)


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Posted 06 December 2018 - 03:51 PM

wuvvum, on 06 Dec 2018 - 12:08 PM, said:

A Frenchman has a tendency to think everything is French.

 

 

As far as I can make out, most of our Continental cousins seem to think of Ford as German.

 

Yep, Ford had been based in Cologne since long before WW2 and became the European headquarters of Ford Motor Company in the 1960s.


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Posted 06 December 2018 - 04:02 PM

Anybody know anything about Army regiments

 

I bought a book dated 1894 and this picture was in it, it's stamped Bourne And Shepherd Photographers Bombay on the back

 

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 12:39 AM

Well it's at least 23 years old, because if it was newer than that it'd say Mumbai rather than Bombay.

 

 

HTH.


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Posted 07 December 2018 - 10:10 AM

Humber Super Snipe?

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 07:00 PM

Absolutely....

 

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 07:02 PM

Where do people in other countries think Fords come from?
The ones I've owned were probably all made in Ghent or Valencia, yet I don't really think of them as foreign cars. Perversely, a Sunderland-built Micra would be.
Does a Frenchman think his Ford is French, Belgian, Spanish - what?

 

Fords are American.

Nissans are Japanese.

 

There.


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Posted 07 December 2018 - 07:07 PM

Anybody know anything about Army regiments

 

I bought a book dated 1894 and this picture was in it, it's stamped Bourne And Shepherd Photographers Bombay on the back

 

attachicon.gifold soldiers.jpeg

 

'tash tastic!


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Posted 07 December 2018 - 07:15 PM

Anybody know anything about Army regiments

I bought a book dated 1894 and this picture was in it, it's stamped Bourne And Shepherd Photographers Bombay on the back

attachicon.gifold soldiers.jpeg

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Posted 08 December 2018 - 02:18 PM

Bini 1.6 pezzer. Rough idle, stalling, and rough at speed once warmed up. I'm getting O2 sensor and thermostat codes.

I can't find an intake leak.

Do I rely on the codes and just change the O2 sensor? They're said to last ~100k, and it's done 93. Or is there something else, preferably cheap, that I should be trying first?

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Posted 08 December 2018 - 02:32 PM

Bini 1.6 pezzer. Rough idle, stalling, and rough at speed once warmed up. I'm getting O2 sensor and thermostat codes.

I can't find an intake leak.

Do I rely on the codes and just change the O2 sensor? They're said to last ~100k, and it's done 93. Or is there something else, preferably cheap, that I should be trying first?

I'm not convinced fault codes make anything easier.

Look at live data on the O2 sensor.

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Posted 08 December 2018 - 04:08 PM

Bini 1.6 pezzer. Rough idle, stalling, and rough at speed once warmed up. I'm getting O2 sensor and thermostat codes.I can't find an intake leak.Do I rely on the codes and just change the O2 sensor? They're said to last ~100k, and it's done 93. Or is there something else, preferably cheap, that I should be trying first?I'm not convinced fault codes make anything easier.

  

Look at live data on the O2 sensor.


I'd try it on EE :D
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Posted 08 December 2018 - 04:21 PM

What year ? Early bini O2 sensors are service items .
Later prince ones can suffer with high pressure fuel pumps causing 02 issues

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Posted 08 December 2018 - 05:41 PM

Where has the 'Donate' button gone?

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Posted 08 December 2018 - 07:57 PM

What year ? Early bini O2 sensors are service items .
Later prince ones can suffer with high pressure fuel pumps causing 02 issues


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Posted 08 December 2018 - 08:21 PM

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